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EU bullies! they are taking the p1ss, anything we propose now will never be good enough, I say we stand up to these facist undemoctatic dictators and tell them if we haven't got a deal by January we are just leaving anyway goodbye👋🏻
At which point, our economy tanks. Hard brexit = the worst option of all. You can't expect the EU to offer us any gifts, not least when we've been doing some preposterous sabre-rattling in the lead up to negotiations (though the scabbard is empty because they hold all the cards). Ultimately, they've got to look after their own interests and that means keeping the EU together even if it hurts us more than it needs to. One interesting point is that there seems to be a bit of a banking crisis developing in parts of the EU. A Spanish bank collapsed last week and a couple of smaller Italian banks have just gone as well. If there is any contagion, then that could lead to severe problems in the Eurozone. Whether that will help or hinder the negotiations, I have no idea. Might make them play hardball even more, might make them take a more conciliatory tone. |
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At which point, our economy tanks. Hard brexit = the worst option of all.
You can't expect the EU to offer us any gifts, not least when we've been doing some preposterous sabre-rattling in the lead up to negotiations (though the scabbard is empty because they hold all the cards). Ultimately, they've got to look after their own interests and that means keeping the EU together even if it hurts us more than it needs to.
One interesting point is that there seems to be a bit of a banking crisis developing in parts of the EU. A Spanish bank collapsed last week and a couple of smaller Italian banks have just gone as well. If there is any contagion, then that could lead to severe problems in the Eurozone. Whether that will help or hinder the negotiations, I have no idea.
Might make them play hardball even more, might make them take a more conciliatory tone.
Exactly they only want us for our money. Look these bullies are not going to agree on any deal and any serious business man/woman will tell you that with any negotiations you have to be prepared to walk away. WTO here we come many countries are fine with these arrangements and the EU would absolutely excrement themselves at the mere thought of the other EU countries seeing us doing ok out of it and thinking we want some of that, time to stop pussyfooting around and stand up to them. |
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At which point, our economy tanks. Hard brexit = the worst option of all.
You can't expect the EU to offer us any gifts, not least when we've been doing some preposterous sabre-rattling in the lead up to negotiations (though the scabbard is empty because they hold all the cards). Ultimately, they've got to look after their own interests and that means keeping the EU together even if it hurts us more than it needs to.
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Might make them play hardball even more, might make them take a more conciliatory tone.
I just love all you people with a crystal ball that know exactly what will happen if we leave the single market/customs union/Europe courts. I'm presuming it's the same crystal ball that the same people used to tell us all the world would end if we didn't join th Euro zone. That's turned out well for country's like Greece 🇬🇷 OUT MEANS OUT. They need us more than we need them. While we are at it(without google) can you name all the white, over 50, unelected, vastly overpaid career politicians who run our lives from their ivory towers on Europe?? |
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I just love all you people with a crystal ball that know exactly what will happen if we leave the single market/customs union/Europe courts.
I'm presuming it's the same crystal ball that the same people used to tell us all the world would end if we didn't join th Euro zone. That's turned out well for country's like Greece 🇬🇷
OUT MEANS OUT.
They need us more than we need them.
While we are at it(without google) can you name all the white, over 50, unelected, vastly overpaid career politicians who run our lives from their ivory towers on Europe??
Crystal ball gazing isnt a means of communication used only by Remainers....but no matter. Andrea Leadsome gets my vote for her ridiculous notion that criticism of Government policy in a democracy based on free speech is somehow unpatriotic |
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Crystal ball gazing isnt a means of communication used only by Remainers....but no matter. Andrea Leadsome gets my vote for her ridiculous notion that criticism of Government policy in a democracy based on free speech is somehow unpatriotic
You don't need a crystal ball to see that when the undemocratic, unelected authority of the top bureaucrats in Europe is chalanged they go to their default setting of bullying as they did with Greece. |
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They need us more than we need them.
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People who hold that inflated view of Britain's importance in the world are in for a shock over the coming years
Look at the numbers. It's a fact. I work 4 very large RoRo vessels a day from Europe. I know what comes in and what goes out and believe me they need us more than we need them. Apart from that you do know there is a world beyond the boarders of the EU?? |
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Look at the numbers.
It's a fact.
I work 4 very large RoRo vessels a day from Europe. I know what comes in and what goes out and believe me they need us more than we need them.
Apart from that you do know there is a world beyond the boarders of the EU??
Exports from the UK to the EU made up 12% of our GDP in 2015. Exports from the EU to the UK made up 4% of the remainder of the EU's economy in the same year. Are these the numbers you mean? And yes there is a big wide world but it makes economic sense to do the bulk of your trade with your nearest neighbours. |
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Not to mention the fact that we simply won't be able to deal with all the new customs declarations: https://www.theguardian.com/po.....hmrc-mps-declarationPretty much no chance of them sorting out the software and systems in time for the actual exit, so what happens then? In fact, even with the software working, I wonder how we could possibly make the checks? Here's a quote from the linked article:
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About 3% of these are subject to checks for paperwork because the lorries are from outside the EU. HMRC’s national clearance hub clears 96% of these within two hours.
Once we're outside the customs union, how is this going to work? I'd imagine some sort of IT will be required but will this still be able to deal with the 96% of declarations normally cleared within 20 seconds? Don't fancy the chances of the IT bods trying to synchronise their systems with others all around Europe, that's for sure. Does the 3% subject to paperwork checks suddenly rise to near 100%? If so, we might need to employ hundreds of thousands of customs officers which would at least be good for employment!  It's one of the many issues which are going to be incredibly difficult to deal with and I don't envy those who will attempt to find a resolution. Bear in mind that under the current system, we're failing to do the job properly and face a massive fine from the EU for allowing widespread fraud: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....it-goods-move-risks/With this in mind, how are we possibly going to cope once we leave? Despite my earlier joke about employment, little doubt we're going to need to invest massively in manpower and technology to even have a hope - billions of pounds, I'd imagine. |
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Yes brilliant, a big world beyond the borders with whom we have 0 trade agreements and who are much further away than the EU meaning that transaction costs are trebled at the very least. The US have told us categorically it will take YEARS to organise a trade deal with them, and if Mr Trump remains in power he has been very clear about "America for the Americans" a clear message that trading with overseas countries is not welcome, what ever balderdash the daily mail might print.
The truth is, and take this from someone who has studied, practiced and taught EU law and economics for many years, we are sleep walking into a BIG BIG problem which will leave the UK so far behind the rest of the modern world we will regret this decision for at least a generation.
I think the saddest thing about the entirety of Brexit is the absolute crap from both sides that has come up. Those who voted for Brexit think that it should just magically happen because they voted for it and intercourse the rest of the country, those who voted against are furious too. We are all in this together and whatever you might think about "they need us more than we need them" it is completely not true. Think about it rationally, 27 other countries need 1 country that doesnt produce anything that they dont already. We all know that what keeps the UK afloat is the city of london and financial instituions, the majority of whom will be gone in a flash come 2019.
Also whilst i welcome the red crosses that come, these again are a sad indictment of the complete failure as a country to address this problem by having a proper conversation. Like I said both sides of this debate seem to pick the "facts" that they want to be right and no one is sitting down, looking and talking with the other side. You simply cannot understand a situation if you dont look at both sides of the coin. We now know that the majority of both sides campaigns last year were built on a misunderstanding of the reality of the situation at best. The promise to put 350 million back in to the NHS was almost fraudulent especially when one considers that Brexit will cost at least 58 billion pounds before we even leave.
What is more amazing, put simply, is the desire of the fervent leavers to push this one at a time that people are using foodbanks, the NHS is on its hands and knees, there are cuts to the police forces and the standard of living for many is dangerously low. The grenville disaster neatly demonstrates the massive gap between haves and have nots and yet we are all so heavily concentrated on leaving the EU what ever the cost, its insanely self serving.
If you want to blame someone then blame Tony Blair the twit OF THE CENTURY for opening the floodgates to EU migrants. The town I live in voted overwhelmingly to leave the EU as jobs and housing are being taken by migrants and the local people have had enough. |
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Exports from the UK to the EU made up 12% of our GDP in 2015. Exports from the EU to the UK made up 4% of the remainder of the EU's economy in the same year. Are these the numbers you mean?
And yes there is a big wide world but it makes economic sense to do the bulk of your trade with your nearest neighbours.
Don't talk GDP look at what comes in and what goes out. Onto the exports from UK to the EU you have to take about 2% off for cargo being forwarded onto other country's in the world. Britain’s trade deficit with other European Union countries is running at a record high level. The latest healthcheck from the Office for National Statistics on goods coming in and going out of the UK reveal that the gap between exports and imports in the first three months of 2016 widened by £0.7bn to £23.9bn. Figures from the ONS showed that Europe is gradually becoming a less important destination for UK companies. In 2000, 60% of exports went to other EU countries, but the percentage fell to 58% in 2005, 54% in 2010 and 47% in 2015. Over the same period, imports from the EU remained constant, accounting for 54% in both 2000 and 2015. |
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Ed Sheeran, for being one of the worst ever Glastonbury headliners.
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Ed Sheeran, for being one of the worst ever Glastonbury headliners.
Ned Sherrin for me too. He's like a school 6th form busker. |
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Was gonna say nationalists but obviously a bunch of bald 'i'm a snowflake because of what coat of arms is on my passport' baby boomers would be triggered, so I'll say Theresa May. Her deal with the DUP has created more issues in Northern Ireland, gone against her 'Magic money tree' rhetoric and put party politics over the overall health of the economy. What a disgrace of a human.
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Was gonna say nationalists but obviously a bunch of bald 'i'm a snowflake because of what coat of arms is on my passport' baby boomers would be triggered, so I'll say Theresa May. Her deal with the DUP has created more issues in Northern Ireland, gone against her 'Magic money tree' rhetoric and put party politics over the overall health of the economy. What a disgrace of a human.
I can just picture your liberal tears 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 priceless! |
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I can just picture your liberal tears 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 priceless!
Tbf it's been a brilliant week watching these people shaking with anger because Corbyn spoke at Glastonbury. 'But... but... its Armed Forces Day, a proud decade long tradition'. Got an extra laugh at you using the phrase 'liberal tears', proper Trumpian virgin territory that is. I agree that Liberals are excrement mind |
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As I'm all politicked out (for a few weeks at least) I'll nominate grown men who watch Love Island.
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As I'm all politicked out (for a few weeks at least) I'll nominate grown men who watch Love Island.
I have no idea what the programme is about apart from the title What channel and day is it on LH ?  |
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Gym selfie twats get left on the beach or something, isn't it?
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Anyone who waits at a pedestrian crossing until the car 500 yards away pulls up and stops, then looks in the other direction until another appears and stops, before crossing the fcuking road.
Even May and Corbyn aren't that twattish.
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The Corbyn and McDonald " double act " who hijacked a musical festival to push home a political point.
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Breixteers for moaning about the other side in negotiations. You voted for it!. Live with it*. Any twit with his brain engaged could have worked out it wasn't going to be a doddle in the park.
* the sad part is the rest of us have to too.
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Ned Sherrin for me too. He's like a school 6th form busker.
A dead 6th form busker? |
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Breixteers for moaning about the other side in negotiations. You voted for it!. Live with it*. Any twit with his brain engaged could have worked out it wasn't going to be a doddle in the park.
* the sad part is the rest of us have to too.
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Breixteers for moaning about the other side in negotiations. You voted for it!. Live with it*. Any twit with his brain engaged could have worked out it wasn't going to be a doddle in the park.
* the sad part is the rest of us have to too.
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Remainers for moaning about our side in the negotiations. You lost, live with it.
The difference is, we said this sort of car crash would happen. You lot dismissed it as Project Fear. You've copulated the country up. Live with it. Sadly we've all got to live with it. |
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The difference is, we said this sort of car crash would happen. You lot dismissed it as Project Fear. You've copulated the country up. Live with it. Sadly we've all got to live with it.
There were many quotes from the remain side, just about most of them have so far proved to be bollox. |
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There were many quotes from the remain side, just about most of them have so far proved to be bollox.
I'm still waiting on that extra £350 million a week for the NHS. |
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I'm still waiting on that extra £350 million a week for the NHS.
We haven't left yet. |
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We haven't left yet.
So why the claim that economists who noted that leaving the EU would cost us dearly have been proven wrong? We're poorer already due to the weakening of the pound and that's long before we even leave. The figures recently released showed that first quarter growth was lower in the UK than in every one of the other 27 EU member states. That's not coincidence. We're screwwwwed. |
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So why the claim that economists who noted that leaving the EU would cost us dearly have been proven wrong?
We're poorer already due to the weakening of the pound and that's long before we even leave. The figures recently released showed that first quarter growth was lower in the UK than in every one of the other 27 EU member states. That's not coincidence.
We're screwwwwed.
Where did I mention anything about economists, I was referring to that twit Osborne who said the economy would collapse and he would have to have a penalty budget if we voted leave. |
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Ah, well. Osborne was always an incompetent twit of the highest order so I'm not quite sure why anybody would take anything that he said seriously.
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Andrea Leadsom for saying the press should shut up and present everything that comes out of Brexit as the best possible outcome for Britain.
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It seems a shame this thread has turned into political debate and slanging match,could maybe understand it when the election is on but it's now over...the thread use to be lighthearted and maybe even amusing,what the hell is happening to all you people
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You don't need a crystal ball to see that when the undemocratic, unelected authority of the top bureaucrats in Europe is chalanged they go to their default setting of bullying as they did with Greece.
You may well be better informed than me but the details I've seen on various news bulletins is of the elected representatives of the 27 countries who currently remain in the E.U. debating what their approach should be to their side of the negotiations. Surely even the most ardent of supporters of Brexit must have realised that the rest of Europe is going to want to represent what they believe to be their best interests (whether we agree with their definition or not) and being faced with 27 countries who broadly want the same thing was never going to be easy. I may be doing you a big disservice but you seem to be implying that the top of the E.U. act entirely independently of their member countries. Within the last couple of months the French have elected a staunchly pro-E.U. president and even allowing for the fact that for some French voters it was anyone but Le Pen you would have to think that his views will represent the views of a majority of his countrymen in the same way that a majority voted to leave the E.U. in this country. There have been several important elections in E.U. member countries since 23 June 2016 and the predicted surge towards nationalism hasn't come through (although Austria was very close). There is no real movement in Europe of ordinary people to leave the E.U. 27 countries "ganging up" on the poor old U.K. does look like bullying but let's be clear they didn't ask for the confrontation. For what it's worth I suspect that there will be a concerted effort to project a united front on their side because unity is strength. Me and you clashed several times on here during the Referendum debate but although I voted to Remain I accept the "will of the people" as a confirmed democrat. The negotiations will be incredibly long and tough, with as it should be each side in the argument putting forward their case in the most forceful way possible. Bullying doesn't and shouldn't come into it. |
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It seems a shame this thread has turned into political debate and slanging match,could maybe understand it when the election is on but it's now over...the thread use to be lighthearted and maybe even amusing,what the hell is happening to all you people
You are entitled to your view but clearly there are more than a few members of the Fishy who think that being on the verge of the most momentous changes since the end of WW2 is worthy of debate. I agree with you about the slanging match aspect though. No need for it. Politeness and open-mindedness should really be a given. |
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And that is a fair reply barralad,howeveri would still say the twit of the week thread was never set up for political tug of war between supporters of each political party....could a new thread be set up in non footy for those who want to debate politics?....it does seem that many posters have been put off posting on this thread due to it being hijacked for politics,as you say i am entitled to my opinion as are you and everyone else
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Changed my nomination. TOTW hijackers who over analyse every single political comment. Fcuk right off to non footy. |
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And that is a fair reply barralad,howeveri would still say the twit of the week thread was never set up for political tug of war between supporters of each political party....could a new thread be set up in non footy for those who want to debate politics?....it does seem that many posters have been put off posting on this thread due to it being hijacked for politics,as you say i am entitled to my opinion as are you and everyone else
Oh I agree that it was never set up for that but then you could say all politicians are twits so it would seem an obvious place to go. Football is political...safe standing/policing of away matches/T.V. coverage etc. etc. but I take the point. |
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Yes of course football is political tho not the sort of politics that is discussed on totw...safe standing,tv coverage and policing obviously hardly get discussed on totw,as its usually may,corbyn and eu and thats nothing to do with football....as for all politicians being twits then that is something that we do agree on
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You may well be better informed than me but the details I've seen on various news bulletins is of the elected representatives of the 27 countries who currently remain in the E.U. debating what their approach should be to their side of the negotiations. Surely even the most ardent of supporters of Brexit must have realised that the rest of Europe is going to want to represent what they believe to be their best interests
I certainly do....... 🇬🇧£ https://www.bloomberg.com/news.....ew-revenue-bloc-says |
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Yes of course football is political tho not the sort of politics that is discussed on totw...safe standing,tv coverage and policing obviously hardly get discussed on totw,as its usually may,corbyn and eu and thats nothing to do with football....as for all politicians being twits then that is something that we do agree on
No we don't all agree all politicians are twits, if you want to bury your head in the sand and are immune to discussion don't bother reading, I am quite happy to learn from all sides of debate, if you want to get your views from the mail alone or the mirror alone and are frightened of discussion and debate I feel sorry for you, maybe just look at new signing threads or ones with endless mindless puns |
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What on earth are you going on about,i read neither the mail or the mirror,and you don't need to feel sorry for me and im not immune from debate and discussion but i am sick of morons like you spouting your drivel on a site that asks for your twit of the week....more than half the statuses don't even nominate anybody....its boring and so are you
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