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Yep maybe I should, but If I had to meet everyone I had to form an opinion about, what a dull world it would be, as I said that was a personal opinion, No I havent met the guy, but Ive heard him speak enough to form an opinion however valid/invalid it may be.
You're quite right. You don't have to meet someone to form an opinion about them. I've never met Gordon Brown but I've seen and heard enough of him in the media to form an opinion that whilst he is very clever, he is not very personable, appears very cold and appears reluctant to listen to advice. I am surprised by the description of Cameron as a 'smug, arrogant bas tard' and wonder what that is based on. To me he appears neither smug or arrogant and I wonder whether such a description is borne out of the prejudice of inverted snobbery, in that someone who was born into money and had a private education is therefore automatically smug and arrogant.
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You're quite right. You don't have to meet someone to form an opinion about them. I've never met Gordon Brown but I've seen and heard enough of him in the media to form an opinion that whilst he is very clever, he is not very personable, appears very cold and appears reluctant to listen to advice.
I am surprised by the description of Cameron as a 'smug, arrogant bastard' and wonder what that is based on. To me he appears neither smug or arrogant and I wonder whether such a description is borne out of the prejudice of inverted snobbery, in that someone who was born into money and had a private education is therefore automatically smug and arrogant.
i spend alot of time working in london,mainly in the fulham,notting hill,chelsea type areas basically the very rich areas and trust me these people who live here have no thought or care about the north and normally harp on how there taxes fund our council houses,now maybe cameron is a exception but i strongly think hes just a good PR man who cleverly is telling the masses what they want to hear without any real substance to it.brown on the other hand is a man steeped in political history but is main problem is he cant warm to the public like blair did and so therefoe will be voted out in may next year.so in short the so called higher classes of london are smug are arrogant and believe me a tory government isnt the answer to gys problems as we will all found out soon enough
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i spend alot of time working in london,mainly in the fulham,notting hill,chelsea type areas basically the very rich areas and trust me these people who live here have no thought or care about the north and normally harp on how there taxes fund our council houses,now maybe cameron is a exception but i strongly think hes just a good PR man who cleverly is telling the masses what they want to hear without any real substance to it.brown on the other hand is a man steeped in political history but is main problem is he cant warm to the public like blair did and so therefoe will be voted out in may next year.so in short the so called higher classes of london are smug are arrogant and believe me a tory government isnt the answer to gys problems as we will all found out soon enough
Then I can only assume we are all fuc ked then because after 12 years it is plainly obvious Labour has done little for the town. The problem is that NO major political party will do anything for towns like Grimsby. A Labour government is not interested in Grimsby because it is a staunchly Labour seat and therefore they have very little to do to entice people to do vote for them. As I said before, hat stand and red rosette spring to mind. Secondly a Conservative government will care little for Grimsby because it is not a seat they percieve to have a cat in hell's chance of winning (see above) and therefore they won't expend the energy trying to curry favour with the local electorate.
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Then I can only assume we are all fucked then because after 12 years it is plainly obvious Labour has done little for the town. The problem is that NO major political party will do anything for towns like Grimsby.
A Labour government is not interested in Grimsby because it is a staunchly Labour seat and therefore they have very little to do to entice people to do vote for them. As I said before, hat stand and red rosette spring to mind.
Secondly a Conservative government will care little for Grimsby because it is not a seat they percieve to have a cat in hell's chance of winning (see above) and therefore they won't expend the energy trying to curry favour with the local electorate.
And that's the sad part.Funding that we need decided on where we sit on the political spectrum.Not marginal enough to curry favour and that's the reason most politicians are not trusted.Every decision they make is for their own political ends with scant regard as to what is good for the country. Cameron is a charlatan.He couldn't give a toss about people like us. Brown has no charisma,which is why he will lose the next election.
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when will we get devolution and our own parliament like Scotland? Free bloody everything (Gordon Browns fault)!!!!! It's about time the Isle Of Wight Got independence......and England
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Then I can only assume we are all fucked then because after 12 years it is plainly obvious Labour has done little for the town. The problem is that NO major political party will do anything for towns like Grimsby.
A Labour government is not interested in Grimsby because it is a staunchly Labour seat and therefore they have very little to do to entice people to do vote for them. As I said before, hat stand and red rosette spring to mind.
Secondly a Conservative government will care little for Grimsby because it is not a seat they percieve to have a cat in hell's chance of winning (see above) and therefore they won't expend the energy trying to curry favour with the local electorate.
i know what your saying about gy getting no funding but the north in general as done ok,liverpool,manchester,sheffield,leeds have and are changing beyond belief but we pay the price for being at the end of the line
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i know what your saying about gy getting no funding but the north in general as done ok,liverpool,manchester,sheffield,leeds have and are changing beyond belief but we pay the price for being at the end of the line
the amount sheffield city centre has changed is literally beyond belief and isn't a bad place to live, they've made a lot of the main shopping area pedestrian only and just improved it no end i think it's what our council is trying to emulate, especially with victoria street in town, but i just can't see it happening
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I don't know yet. I'd be tempted to shoot the lot of them. If I vote for anyone it will probably be someone obscure. Wasted vote but couldn't bring myself to vote for the two main ones. It goes without saying that I will not vote for the BNP either. I may well vote for the party that is most opposed to them.
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It goes without saying that I will not vote for the BNP either. I may well vote for the party that is most opposed to them.
I wonder how the BNP vote will be effected should they allow membership to non-whites as is being discussed at the moment.
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What we need is a proper ~Right wing party not your mamby pamby BNP and Tories (no different to labour now
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