Hanson injury

Injured in the warm up today then.

Anyone heard how serious?

Done his hamstring,  so think that's his season finished.

Probably the last time we'll see him in a Town shirt then.

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Quoted from paramariner

Done his hamstring,  so think that's his season finished.

2 goals since January, his season finished weeks ago.

I’m gonna be pathetic prophetic and suggest that it’s all written in the stars. Without Hanson, Town have to play a different way and maybe that will be decisive.

Maybe, just maybe, Matt Green will turn out to be the messiah...

Quoted from Abdul19

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Harrogate?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Harrogate?

I’m not sure he’s good enough any more.

Quoted from Poojah

I’m gonna be pathetic prophetic and suggest that it’s all written in the stars. Without Hanson, Town have to play a different way and maybe that will be decisive.

Maybe, just maybe, Matt Green will turn out to be the messiah...

Another Monkhouse like injury situation forced on Hurst, it is written in the stars.

Think Hanson will probably retire as a player. Can’t see that anyone will give him a contract unless it’s pay as u play.

Completely unimpressed when he signed as knew he was past it . Nothing has changed my mind in 2 seasons.

On his day he’s a handful and can frighten defenders to death, we’ve not seen enough of those days though in a Town shirt.

You watch he’ll leave in the summer sign for one of our NL competitors, play 30 odd games and score 20+.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Think Hanson will probably retire as a player. Can’t see that anyone will give him a contract unless it’s pay as u play.

Agree. To get injured in a warm up says it all. Probably carried this injury for a while. Green was injured, only mentioned it to Hurst once Hanson injured.

Quoted from Poojah

I’m gonna be pathetic prophetic and suggest that it’s all written in the stars. Without Hanson, Town have to play a different way and maybe that will be decisive.

Maybe, just maybe, Matt Green will turn out to be the messiah...

How I'd love that.  We looked a bit thin on the ground yesterday.  The lads stuck to their task and we only ended up bringing on one sub. As much as Waterfall gets slated that clearance over our own bar was quality.

I find that when Hanson plays we are too one dimensional.

Hanson has had a career but at town he’s essentially been paid to do very little. Perhaps not his fault but he’s hardly been the player we needed.

Much like Louth, I was underwhelmed when we signed him but you just crack on and support the players, sadly, given the injuries to Hanson, supporting him has been difficult given he’s barely played.

He played excellent against Bolton last week but aside from an unsettled first ten minutes yesterday I think we played better without him and have shown this a few times since he’s been here.

Quoted from Mayaman

I find that when Hanson plays we are too one dimensional.

That is true since Clarke left and definitely true since Hurst arrived. It means LJL will be the target now, can’t see much change in the strategy.

When he's fully fit he can be an asset it's just that's been few and far between. Similar to how I recall Lee Peacock after he signed for us, you could see there was a player in him but his body was being held together by paperclips at that point and about 10 years past his best. Could also make the argument that LJL serves the same kind of role anyway as a target man and a forward who puts himself about to pressure the defence.

Quoted from Poojah

Maybe, just maybe, Matt Green will turn out to be the messiah...

He’s not the Messiah he’s just a naughty boy.

Think there’s some harsh assessments, thought he was good in his first season, he was winning the headers won stats for the league by a country mile. However, we don’t have the attacking runners or another striker to compliment him, so he’s been largely redundant this season when he’s played. Obviously had his injuries too, but he covers a hell of a lot of ground when he’s played, and keeps running the full 90 so his legs haven’t gone. I suspect yesterday’s injury is the result of the relentless fixture schedule which naturally places players at more risk of injury but especially when I players thrown into it right off the bat of recovering from an injury.

I wouldn’t be opposed to signing him for another year on less money, him or LJL would be good options in the conference but we really need a goal scorer to go alongside them.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Think there’s some harsh assessments, thought he was good in his first season, he was winning the headers won stats for the league by a country mile. However, we don’t have the attacking runners or another striker to compliment him, so he’s been largely redundant this season when he’s played. Obviously had his injuries too, but he covers a hell of a lot of ground when he’s played, and keeps running the full 90 so his legs haven’t gone. I suspect yesterday’s injury is the result of the relentless fixture schedule which naturally places players at more risk of injury but especially when I players thrown into it right off the bat of recovering from an injury.

I wouldn’t be opposed to signing him for another year on less money, him or LJL would be good options in the conference but we really need a goal scorer to go alongside them.

Our one time parachute payment cannot be squandered on non playing non scoring strikers! Hanson does some stuff well and puts in a shift but he is certainly past it and incapable of playing 30 odd games a season, not to mention he has a poor goal scoring return nowadays anyway

Quoted from Mariner93er

Think there’s some harsh assessments, thought he was good in his first season, he was winning the headers won stats for the league by a country mile. However, we don’t have the attacking runners or another striker to compliment him, so he’s been largely redundant this season when he’s played. Obviously had his injuries too, but he covers a hell of a lot of ground when he’s played, and keeps running the full 90 so his legs haven’t gone. I suspect yesterday’s injury is the result of the relentless fixture schedule which naturally places players at more risk of injury but especially when I players thrown into it right off the bat of recovering from an injury.

I wouldn’t be opposed to signing him for another year on less money, him or LJL would be good options in the conference but we really need a goal scorer to go alongside them.

The best place for him is the job centre and a new career.1st season with us played 32 games scored 8 goals. This season played 23 games scored 2 goals, 55 games and 10 goals (source this site) and he's supposed to be a striker!

He is a yesterday man with his best time being at Bradford, then you have his injury problems. Not worth keeping and not a patch on keeping the ball like LJL.

I saw him go off in the first half of a match at Carlisle a couple of seasons ago and did think then - if that’s hamstring you are finished (as I was). He has done well to stay on the payroll (for himself) but Town have suffered for not identifying this loss early enough.
All the best James Hansen

We might've identified the loss 18 months ago, but he was under contract.

Actually it was stated as calf in the press - ever since then the chap has struggled to appear in the side.
Someone gave him a contract that hasn’t really helped Grimsby Town - it seems to me - in conjunction with other elderly players.

I think his presence will be missed defensively, especially for set pieces.

I remember back at the start of the season I was bold enough as to say both Green and Hanson were past it and would be a liability this season. When I said it, I was lambasted left, right and centre for suggesting such a thing. Now it seems most people are saying much the same.

Call me a soothsayer!

Putting my money on him rocking up at Chesterfield next season

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

I remember back at the start of the season I was bold enough as to say both Green and Hanson were past it and would be a liability this season. When I said it, I was lambasted left, right and centre for suggesting such a thing. Now it seems most people are saying much the same.

Call me a soothsayer!

Green was a major liability last season so it hardly takes a crystal ball to predict he would be likewise this season.

I supposed Hanson did start brightly at first but he was a major liability too wages to performance wise last season also.

I don't think Hanson has been too bad when he has played, he has offered more than Green overall since they have both been here, however given the high wage Hanson will no doubt be on I don't think he has offered good value for money.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

I remember back at the start of the season I was bold enough as to say both Green and Hanson were past it and would be a liability this season. When I said it, I was lambasted left, right and centre for suggesting such a thing. Now it seems most people are saying much the same.

Call me a soothsayer!

Green didn't score for the last 24 games of last season  

Quoted from Stew0_0

Putting my money on him rocking up at Chesterfield next season

Save your money. Keep it in your pocket.

I thought Hanson was excellent against Bolton last weekend, it was certainly his best game of the season. I do think people are being a touch harsh, sure he's not the most mobile of strikers and not a huge goal threat but he is effective in a specific way. He does bully defenders, he does hold the ball up and he does win headers, and and he can play a bit.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Think there’s some harsh assessments, thought he was good in his first season, he was winning the headers won stats for the league by a country mile. However, we don’t have the attacking runners or another striker to compliment him, so he’s been largely redundant this season when he’s played. Obviously had his injuries too, but he covers a hell of a lot of ground when he’s played, and keeps running the full 90 so his legs haven’t gone. I suspect yesterday’s injury is the result of the relentless fixture schedule which naturally places players at more risk of injury but especially when I players thrown into it right off the bat of recovering from an injury.

I wouldn’t be opposed to signing him for another year on less money, him or LJL would be good options in the conference but we really need a goal scorer to go alongside them.

Quoted from Mariner_09

I thought Hanson was excellent against Bolton last weekend, it was certainly his best game of the season. I do think people are being a touch harsh, sure he's not the most mobile of strikers and not a huge goal threat but he is effective in a specific way. He does bully defenders, he does hold the ball up and he does win headers, and and he can play a bit.

I'm with both of you here. Genuinely baffled that people can't see what he brings to the team. The "we're too one dimensional when he's in the side" argument would be valid if we had the players that could give us an extra dimension but we don't, so it's essentially flawed.

I think  Hanson is often unfairly maligned, in his time at GTFC how many times has he been able to attack a cross as a result of a winger getting behind the opponents defence? There isn't a lot he can do really  trying to get on the end of a hopeful punt launched from 35 yards behind him. If we had solved the seemingly endless problem of ineffective wide men, he would have scored many more times IMO.
Having said that, he isn't a lot of use if he is constantly injured, which  has been the case, but I don't suppose he would have been with us in league 2 if his fitness wasn't a problem.

Quoted from petethemariner

I think  Hanson is often unfairly maligned, in his time at GTFC how many times has he been able to attack a cross as a result of a winger getting behind the opponents defence? There isn't a lot he can do really  trying to get on the end of a hopeful punt launched from 35 yards behind him. If we had solved the seemingly endless problem of ineffective wide men, he would have scored many more times IMO.
Having said that, he isn't a lot of use if he is constantly injured, which  has been the case, but I don't suppose he would have been with us in league 2 if his fitness wasn't a problem.

Agreed we haven’t played to his strengths one bit.  Thought Hendrie and the lad from Forest would have been whipping those crosses in right on his head all season but it just hasn’t happened. Still a good player in my book. Should we keep him? Yes but on a significantly reduced deal.

All well & good suggesting “playing to his strengths”, but if that’s get down the wings and put decent balls in the middle then maybe we could find someone more reliable than a 33/34-year-old who spends more than half the season injured?

Quoted from ska face

All well & good suggesting “playing to his strengths”, but if that’s get down the wings and put decent balls in the middle then maybe we could find someone more reliable than a 33/34-year-old who spends more than half the season injured?

Or have another couple of strikers that aren't inferior lumps of the same ilk. But yeah, as said, I'm pro-Hanson but there's no possible response on the fitness issues. Everyone is bang on the money in that we can't get him onto the pitch as much as we need to and that alone is a strong enough case to not offer him a deal next season.

I wonder if anyone knows if he's interested in doing his badges? Could be a savvy joint role for a season, if so. I don't really know what his deal is off the pitch, can't remember hearing him interviewed and don't really know if he's supposed to be a good egg in the changing room, etc.

Does anyone else think that Jackson Jr could be the perfect foil to play alongside Hanson?

Quoted from Son of Cod

Or have another couple of strikers that aren't inferior lumps of the same ilk. But yeah, as said, I'm pro-Hanson but there's no possible response on the fitness issues. Everyone is bang on the money in that we can't get him onto the pitch as much as we need to and that alone is a strong enough case to not offer him a deal next season.

I wonder if anyone knows if he's interested in doing his badges? Could be a savvy joint role for a season, if so. I don't really know what his deal is off the pitch, can't remember hearing him interviewed and don't really know if he's supposed to be a good egg in the changing room, etc.

he came into football late after stacking shelves, think he is appreciative of his oppurtunity but dont know the bloke so i could be completely wrong

Quoted from Son of Cod

Or have another couple of strikers that aren't inferior lumps of the same ilk. But yeah, as said, I'm pro-Hanson but there's no possible response on the fitness issues. Everyone is bang on the money in that we can't get him onto the pitch as much as we need to and that alone is a strong enough case to not offer him a deal next season.

I wonder if anyone knows if he's interested in doing his badges? Could be a savvy joint role for a season, if so. I don't really know what his deal is off the pitch, can't remember hearing him interviewed and don't really know if he's supposed to be a good egg in the changing room, etc.

I know there’s an element of “don’t throw the baby out with the bath water”, but I wouldn’t lose any sleep if the whole squad got punted over the next few weeks.

I can’t remember any chronics being accommodated in Hurst’s first spell, and think being reliable (as in likely to be fit) is one of his first requirements.

I honestly thought, and hoped, Hanson would do better for us but for some reason refs tend never to give him clear fouls when he’s being pulled and pushed all over. Probably because of his size so refs think he’s going down easily, but he seems to be wrestled for at least a pen a game and we don’t get anything.

just a thought - Bennett returns to Brizzull, Green & Hanson released. Rose & Williams are allowed to leave. I estimate that to be half a million plus off the wage bill.
Now ,bearing that in mind, just think about what those 5 have achieved for us, in totality ,this season
then imagine what sort of players we should be getting in return for £500,000

Quoted from forza ivano

just a thought - Bennett returns to Brizzull, Green & Hanson released. Rose & Williams are allowed to leave. I estimate that to be half a million plus off the wage bill.
Now ,bearing that in mind, just think about what those 5 have achieved for us, in totality ,this season
then imagine what sort of players we should be getting in return for £500,000

bennetts wages being paid by Bristol

Quoted from Hagrid

bennetts wages being paid by Bristol

we have been paying £500 of his £4000 weekly wage!

I think Hanson has been a good player and still has strengths, but with injury after injury it could be that his body is telling him that for his own future health he should retire now. Perhaps he should listen.

Quoted from forza ivano

just a thought - Bennett returns to Brizzull, Green & Hanson released. Rose & Williams are allowed to leave. I estimate that to be half a million plus off the wage bill.
Now ,bearing that in mind, just think about what those 5 have achieved for us, in totality ,this season
then imagine what sort of players we should be getting in return for £500,000

Rose and Williams won't just leave without us paying any of the money we owe them unfortunately. However we need to come e to an arrangement with them, as I don't think there is any point in us having them on the books. Our position couldn't be any more desperate but Hurst would rather not bother having them in the squad. So we have to pay them off and try and do better with out resources that are left. Like you say Hanson and green leaving frees up one hell of a lot of money for conference level. Scannell has to go too. Maybe someone will loan Rose scannell or Williams off us if that makes more sense to us financially.

Personally I think Gibson will be loaned out rather than paid off. probably Jackson too.

Likely that relegation clauses will lessen the cost of us getting rid of the deadwood so I wouldn't overly worry about the cost. That presumes of course that our competent board would foresee such possibilities 👀👀

Rather than released, I think Gibson and Jackson will get a run of games next season

Hurst does not seem keen on Gibson at all frankly I'd be amazed if he's here next year.

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Rather than released, I think Gibson and Jackson will get a run of games next season

Gibson hascalready returned from loan and Hurst has said he won't play him. In fact on Saturday he decided he would rather have a space on the bench empty than take him to Oldham. He won't be around next season I'm sure, whether that's loan or payoff

The loanees go back. I know there’s a number out of contact so I’d offer deals to Hendrie and Hewitt as well as Mayo and Coke of that 4 I’d only expect Coke to sign, I hope so as personally if he can prove his sustainability fitness wise I’d make him captain.

Before I’d try and off load Rose and Willians I’d probably have a whites of the eyes conversation with them to see if they where up for the fight in non league, if that’s the case I’d give them a chance as both CDAJATL.

Of the players that Holloway brought in from non league keep Ira & Spokes and bin the rest.

A fit Hanson could be an asset in non league, but that's the problem: can he stay fit?

Lincoln won the league with fatty Rhead up front. He only scored fifteen goals but he caused mayhem among defenders.

My hunch us that PH will let him go.

Quoted from ginnywings

A fit Hanson could be an asset in non league, but that's the problem: can he stay fit?

Lincoln won the league with fatty Rhead up front. He only scored fifteen goals but he caused mayhem among defenders.

My hunch us that PH will let him go.

IMO, a fit Hanson is an asset in league 2.

He's a good player, who creates more goals that scores, and sometimes goes unnoticed by the stat lovers

I woud have rather kepth Ogbu than Green tbh.   it all seemed to go rapidly downhill when Ohman and Ogbu where told to go.

Spokes out of contract but i can see him not getting offered a deal even tho i would love to keep him as he has talent but needs time.

Can see Hendry leaving and Hewitt too as he looks a decent centre bcak for any league 2 side that has versitility.

Khouri looks like he could quickly become a fans favourite.

I hope we can find a way to keep most of the back 4 together as they have been strong for several months. The way to promotion from the National League will surely lie in a tight defense that will give very little away at that level. I know those players can all play at football league level but if the likes of Hewitt, Hendrie, and Menayese can be persuaded to give us a year to get promotion, it could make a huge difference. If the price is right, I don't know why they wouldn't if the new owners can make the deal right for them. Obviously Hurst has some work to do to add goals to the team, but I just hope he doesn't have to build an entirely new team again as that will not bode well for bouncing straight back, in my opinion.