What the club needs to get back in the league

I think anyone who wants rid of Hurst needs there head examining, he's clearly by a distance the best available manager to us. He got us promoted last time with mid table budgets, did an amazing job at Shrewsbury. And while we've been relegated - we have played much better since he has got better.

I hope he gets rid of most of the players - leave (excluding kids) 4 or 5 pros and start a fresh with hungry players, clearly there are problems with this squad of players. Get rid of em and start again.

I mean there’s an argument that he should never have been allowed to leave in the first place.

I know people like to cry becauee he dared to speak the truth and was then misquoted and he upset a handful of precious little souls with his ear cupping but he will be up there with Buckley as a manger who got us promoted.

Had Fenty not been a girl private then perhaps Hurst wouldn’t have had his head turned as easily...would that team he assembled in the wake of a summer of penny pinching stayed the pace? May be not but it had character and was winning games...we had something to build on.

Sadly, as with everything at town under Fenty it was done on the cheap and we learned absolutely no lessons from spending 6 years in non league...

Quoted from horsforthmariner

I think anyone who wants rid of Hurst needs there head examining, he's clearly by a distance the best available manager to us. He got us promoted last time with mid table budgets, did an amazing job at Shrewsbury. And while we've been relegated - we have played much better since he has got better.

I hope he gets rid of most of the players - leave (excluding kids) 4 or 5 pros and start a fresh with hungry players, clearly there are problems with this squad of players. Get rid of em and start again.

Why would anyone questioning Hurst's tenure need their head examining ?

When he took over we were outside of the drop zone 3 points above the relegation places. We are now 9 points from safety with 4 games left.

Any other manager with this record would be sacked !

P    W    D    L    F    A     Pts
21   3     8    10  14-27    17

That's 17 points out of a possible 63 !

As you rightly say the football has improved slightly, but would you be happy playing a little bit better but still not winning ? And he has had a transfer window in which to bring in his preferred players !

If you are happy with this then I'm afraid it's YOU who needs your head examined !

Quoted from horsforthmariner

I think anyone who wants rid of Hurst needs there head examining, he's clearly by a distance the best available manager to us. He got us promoted last time with mid table budgets, did an amazing job at Shrewsbury. And while we've been relegated - we have played much better since he has got better.

I hope he gets rid of most of the players - leave (excluding kids) 4 or 5 pros and start a fresh with hungry players, clearly there are problems with this squad of players. Get rid of em and start again.

If he is assured of a job by the new owners come what may then Hurst is on a win-win. But that does not absolve him from blame in my book. Yes, he inherited poor players with some crap attitudes but as Sir Matt shows, the results speak for themselves. He will not have a miracle budget but I would hate to see that used as an excuse for mediocrity and a mid table position. We need to be well placed in the play-off spots by Christmas or Hurst needs to go. Never mind giving him more time, we tried that before and he took years.

To say PH bought in his prefered players in a January window is plain stupid. the amount of players available in January is miniscule compared to the summer window. We do have a better squad now than we had at christmas or do you believe Taylor, Preston, Morton etc would improve us now?
Hurst got what he could that was available (you dont tend to find a 30 goal a season striker up for grabs in Jan for instance)

Quoted from StaffsMariner

To say PH bought in his prefered players in a January window is plain stupid. the amount of players available in January is miniscule compared to the summer window. We do have a better squad now than we had at christmas or do you believe Taylor, Preston, Morton etc would improve us now?
Hurst got what he could that was available (you dont tend to find a 30 goal a season striker up for grabs in Jan for instance)

So what you are saying is, the players that Hurst brought in during the window he did not want ?

And you say I'm plain stupid !!!!!!

No. I'm saying thats the best he could get when we needed so many bringing in.

Quoted from Sir Matt Tease

So what you are saying is, the players that Hurst brought in during the window he did not want ?

And you say I'm plain stupid !!!!!!

urrrh, i think you are being plain stupid.
it's obvious that the players available in January is a miniscule amount compared to the size of the summer market. So the supply is hugely diminished, but the demand is still the same - all 92 clubs will be looking to make 1 or 2 signings at least. Therefore when supply outstrips demand the available players will obviously have a lot more choice, and a side bottom of the 92 is going to be at the bottom of their list of options. Therefore it's highly unlikely that the players Hurst brought in will have been at the top of his wish list. Those at the top were no doubt not available, and then others will have chosen to move elsewhere. He is therefore reduced to making the most of a bad job

Quoted from StaffsMariner

We do have a better squad now than we had at christmas

If we have a better squad now than pre Christmas, how come the results & PPG are worse?

Any other manager with that record would have been shown the door.  

Quoted from forza ivano

urrrh, i think you are being plain stupid.
it's obvious that the players available in January is a miniscule amount compared to the size of the summer market. So the supply is hugely diminished, but the demand is still the same - all 92 clubs will be looking to make 1 or 2 signings at least. Therefore when supply outstrips demand the available players will obviously have a lot more choice, and a side bottom of the 92 is going to be at the bottom of their list of options. Therefore it's highly unlikely that the players Hurst brought in will have been at the top of his wish list. Those at the top were no doubt not available, and then others will have chosen to move elsewhere. He is therefore reduced to making the most of a bad job

So what you are saying is, because we are 92nd we will only ever be able to buy excrement players ?