Bradford game is massive.

I’m not expecting much at Barrow they played us off the park here.
So it makes Bradford a huge game they are out of form not playing well nothing to play for, can we turn up and get a result

No

If it’s a big crowd definitely not i don’t know why we always play awful when we have a decent crowd in.

Quoted from Yoda

If it’s a big crowd definitely not i don’t know why we always play awful when we have a decent crowd in.

Think there are two key reasons. Firstly, we are a poor crowd at home for backing the team when they really need us I.e. when they are struggling to get into games and not playing well. It’s a bit chicken & egg, team play on front foot, get stuck in and crowd get bethel. Give away a goal, make a couple of inerrant passes and some fans are on their back straight away and think this the result of us playing pretty mediocre football in home matches for several seasons and we get frustrated that yet again our hopes for the team, the result and the performance are going to be well below the standards we rightly expect.

Secondly this current side in particular don’t appear to be able to cope with a big gate, with big expectations and a higher degree of pressure. Cartwright in particular seems on edge and that maybe is do with his age, Rogers is another who seems to crumble once he hears a couple of moans and groans. Some like Rose and I think Tharme thrive on it but too many just don’t have the cajones to turn a game and the crowd around once they fall behind. You knew today once they scored it was game over you could just feel it in the ground.

Seems years since I stood in the old Barrett Stand for a night match and the place felt alive and you could see it was the opposition that was intimidated by the crowd not are own players. Just seems a pretty soulless place most times nowadays.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Think there are two key reasons. Firstly, we are a poor crowd at home for backing the team when they really need us I.e. when they are struggling to get into games and not playing well. It’s a bit chicken & egg, team play on front foot, get stuck in and crowd get bethel. Give away a goal, make a couple of inerrant passes and some fans are on their back straight away and think this the result of us playing pretty mediocre football in home matches for several seasons and we get frustrated that yet again our hopes for the team, the result and the performance are going to be well below the standards we rightly expect.

Secondly this current side in particular don’t appear to be able to cope with a big gate, with big expectations and a higher degree of pressure. Cartwright in particular seems on edge and that maybe is do with his age, Rogers is another who seems to crumble once he hears a couple of moans and groans. Some like Rose and I think Tharme thrive on it but too many just don’t have the cajones to turn a game and the crowd around once they fall behind. You knew today once they scored it was game over you could just feel it in the ground.

Seems years since I stood in the old Barrett Stand for a night match and the place felt alive and you could see it was the opposition that was intimidated by the crowd not are own players. Just seems a pretty soulless place most times nowadays.

The ground's soul is well and truly gone. It does not create an atmosphere, you look at grounds with 4k attendances and the sound is better. We're in an ever aging stadia that's never really been one for an atmosphere since the 90s.

Yes i agree all seater killed the atmosphere not just at BP the same at most grounds if you ask the fans.
Yes our players seem to have a mental block with a larger crowd and bottle it mind you they seem to have done that all season.

Quoted from Plankton

The ground's soul is well and truly gone. It does not create an atmosphere, you look at grounds with 4k attendances and the sound is better. We're in an ever aging stadia that's never really been one for an atmosphere since the 90s.

Before that. When the Barretts was demolished it was never, ever the same.

At this stage of the season, and our lowly position, EVERY game is massive for us

Wow, can you walk into this pity party or do you need an invite?

What’s killed the atmosphere is the quality of the product on the pitch not demolishing a stand in the early 80s.

One thing that Artell & Thompson mentioned post match yesterday was that the players might have been spooked by the whole Wrexham thing. On RH Artell referenced “cameras in the tunnel” if we have let the documentary makers get access to all areas yesterday whilst we’re in a relegation dogfight then that’s a really poor decision by GTFC.

Oh and I expect a point from the Bradford game for what it’s worth.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Wow, can you walk into this pity party or do you need an invite?

What’s killed the atmosphere is the quality of the product on the pitch not demolishing a stand in the early 80s.

One thing that Artell & Thompson mentioned post match yesterday was that the players might have been spooked by the whole Wrexham thing. On RH Artell referenced “cameras in the tunnel” if we have let the documentary makers get access to all areas yesterday whilst we’re in a relegation dogfight then that’s a really poor decision by GTFC.

Oh and I expect a point from the Bradford game for what it’s worth.

They let us film our docu at the racecourse and the Hollywood boys did interviews so I don’t see the problem. The problem is most of our players aren’t very good and aren’t week in week out level 4 standard and I expect to beat Bradford

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

They let us film our docu at the racecourse and the Hollywood boys did interviews so I don’t see the problem. The problem is most of our players aren’t very good and aren’t week in week out level 4 standard and I expect to beat Bradford

Agree about our players. Different scenario now though re the filming.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Wow, can you walk into this pity party or do you need an invite?

What’s killed the atmosphere is the quality of the product on the pitch not demolishing a stand in the early 80s.

One thing that Artell & Thompson mentioned post match yesterday was that the players might have been spooked by the whole Wrexham thing. On RH Artell referenced “cameras in the tunnel” if we have let the documentary makers get access to all areas yesterday whilst we’re in a relegation dogfight then that’s a really poor decision by GTFC.

Oh and I expect a point from the Bradford game for what it’s worth.

We were the main game on the ITV highlights show last night, with there being no Championship games on. That’s what the cameras will have been for.  

Window lickers? No offence but you really are a bit of a bell end.

Quoted from Poojah

We were the main game on the ITV highlights show last night, with there being no Championship games on. That’s what the cameras will have been for.  

Artell seemed to suggest some of them where Wrexham related & the occasion might have got to the players, personally would have liked to have seen our lads a bit more up for it, but there you go.

The “occasion” was Grimsby V Wrexham in league 2 in front of 7,000. Not Galatasaray away in the Champions League.

If any player can’t handle that then they should just hang their boots up today.

Quoted from ska face

The “occasion” was Grimsby V Wrexham in league 2 in front of 7,000. Not Galatasaray away in the Champions League.

If any player can’t handle that then they should just hang their boots up today.

Personally I think it’s nothing to do with handling pressure playing big names it’s more to do with lack of ability , most of our players can’t kick a ball straight or trap a ball dead.  Like DA said from min 1 you’ve got to do the basics and I’m afraid for most of them not all that appears a step to far.  I’d only keep Thompson rose next season with an argument developing for Tharme. The rest of them can go and if the majority stay expect another relegation battle next season or mid table conference if we do drop.  

And which group do you identify as?

Quoted from mariner91

And which group do you identify as?

I think I’m getting old….what is a window licker?

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

I think I’m getting old….what is a window licker?

A disgusting way of describing someone disabled or with impairments.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Oh and I expect a point from the Bradford game for what it’s worth.

Christ, I hope we get more than that.  After them it's Newport, Harrogate, Crewe, Colchester, Swindon and Crawley.  Four of those still have a chance of the playoffs at the moment.

Quoted from Phil the cod

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My son is autistic and has been going to GTFC since he was 6 - he's Town mad and now in his 30s. I don't think I'll be the only person on here who finds your comments deeply offensive.

I’ve removed Phil The Cod’s comments even if a few of you have rightly called them out.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

I’ve removed Phil The Cod’s comments even if a few of you gave rightly called them out.

Thanks!

Isnt the first time that poster has been highly offensive.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

I’ve removed Phil The Cod’s comments even if a few of you have rightly called them out.

Good!!!

He should be suspended for a week or two for that.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Wow, can you walk into this pity party or do you need an invite?

What’s killed the atmosphere is the quality of the product on the pitch not demolishing a stand in the early 80s.

One thing that Artell & Thompson mentioned post match yesterday was that the players might have been spooked by the whole Wrexham thing. On RH Artell referenced “cameras in the tunnel” if we have let the documentary makers get access to all areas yesterday whilst we’re in a relegation dogfight then that’s a really poor decision by GTFC.

Oh and I expect a point from the Bradford game for what it’s worth.

Agreed. I never ceased to be amazed at how many turn up given our appalling EFL home record over the years.

I'd like to see us beat Bradford. I can't recall when we last beat a Yorkshire side at home in the EFL/NL.

I can't accuse Town fans of a lack of support. Yesterday was another example of a game being effectively over just after it had started.

Quoted from thornemariner

Agreed. I never ceased to be amazed at how many turn up given our appalling EFL home record over the years.

I'd like to see us beat Bradford. I can't recall when we last beat a Yorkshire side at home in the EFL/NL.

I can't accuse Town fans of a lack of support. Yesterday was another example of a game being effectively over just after it had started.

I remember beating Halifax about 7-0, if that helps!

Quoted from thornemariner

Agreed. I never ceased to be amazed at how many turn up given our appalling EFL home record over the years.

I'd like to see us beat Bradford. I can't recall when we last beat a Yorkshire side at home in the EFL/NL.

I can't accuse Town fans of a lack of support. Yesterday was another example of a game being effectively over just after it had started.

It’s amazing we’re getting anything above 2000 at home given the turd dished up to long-suffering home fans in the last few decades. Some of the stats I’ve seen on social media in the last few weeks make for shocking reading, all these are across the entire EFL -

Lowest goals per game average last 10 seasons:
1. GTFC (1.07 gpg)

Teams with longest run without back-to-back wins (inc prem):
4. GTFC (50 games)

Worst goal difference this century:
1. GTFC (minus 244)

Lowest goals per game at home average this century:
2. GTFC (1.24 gpg)

Most league games lost in football league history:
3. GTFC (1893)

Lowest goals per game last 5 years:
3. GTFC (1.03)

Most relegations in league history:
1. GTFC (17)

In amongst all that we’d been included in the top 5 for longest runs without a home win, longest run without an away win (13 at the time), longest overall run without a win (7) and some others.

7 times this season we’ve conceded 3 or more at home, that’s over a third of our home games. We’ve dropped 32 points from winning positions this season, the worst in the division. Had our worst result since 1948 in a spell of conceding 6, 5, 3, 2 and 5 again in consecutive home games. Started the season with 1 win in 7, then had spells of 1 win in 13, 1 win in 8 then 1 in 8 again all this season. Out of the league cup in the first round. 1 draw in the pizza cup against 10-man Man City u18s and drew away at semi-pro Slough town who were near the bottom of the national league south in the FA Cup.

And there’s people on here asking why anyone chooses to leave games early? Anyone who watches this shower on a regular basis needs a medal.

Quoted from thornemariner

Agreed. I never ceased to be amazed at how many turn up given our appalling EFL home record over the years.

I'd like to see us beat Bradford. I can't recall when we last beat a Yorkshire side at home in the EFL/NL.

I can't accuse Town fans of a lack of support. Yesterday was another example of a game being effectively over just after it had started.

I think this is a huge point. Way too many times have thousands turned up at significant financial cost, poised to join their compatriots in full throated support and excitement, only to see the team pull a stinker and the game dead within the first half hour.

Sure, you might accept, philosophically, and with the benefit of long service,  this to happen once, maybe twice a season, but it’s probably happened, what, 4 times since Christmas..?

It’s a good indication of the fact that this isn’t a good enough squad. It makes us look, as a club, a bit of a sh1t show.

Quoted from ska face

It’s amazing we’re getting anything above 2000 at home given the turd dished up to long-suffering home fans in the last few decades. Some of the stats I’ve seen on social media in the last few weeks make for shocking reading, all these are across the entire EFL -

Lowest goals per game average last 10 seasons:
1. GTFC (1.07 gpg)

Teams with longest run without back-to-back wins (inc prem):
4. GTFC (50 games)

Worst goal difference this century:
1. GTFC (minus 244)

Lowest goals per game at home average this century:
2. GTFC (1.24 gpg)

Most league games lost in football league history:
3. GTFC (1893)

Lowest goals per game last 5 years:
3. GTFC (1.03)

Most relegations in league history:
1. GTFC (17)

In amongst all that we’d been included in the top 5 for longest runs without a home win, longest run without an away win (13 at the time), longest overall run without a win (7) and some others.

7 times this season we’ve conceded 3 or more at home, that’s over a third of our home games. We’ve dropped 32 points from winning positions this season, the worst in the division. Had our worst result since 1948 in a spell of conceding 6, 5, 3, 2 and 5 again in consecutive home games. Started the season with 1 win in 7, then had spells of 1 win in 13, 1 win in 8 then 1 in 8 again all this season. Out of the league cup in the first round. 1 draw in the pizza cup against 10-man Man City u18s and drew away at semi-pro Slough town who were near the bottom of the national league south in the FA Cup.

And there’s people on here asking why anyone chooses to leave games early? Anyone who watches this shower on a regular basis needs a medal.

Stark reality.

Quoted from ska face

It’s amazing we’re getting anything above 2000 at home given the turd dished up to long-suffering home fans in the last few decades. Some of the stats I’ve seen on social media in the last few weeks make for shocking reading, all these are across the entire EFL -

Lowest goals per game average last 10 seasons:
1. GTFC (1.07 gpg)

Teams with longest run without back-to-back wins (inc prem):
4. GTFC (50 games)

Worst goal difference this century:
1. GTFC (minus 244)

Lowest goals per game at home average this century:
2. GTFC (1.24 gpg)

Most league games lost in football league history:
3. GTFC (1893)

Lowest goals per game last 5 years:
3. GTFC (1.03)

Most relegations in league history:
1. GTFC (17)

In amongst all that we’d been included in the top 5 for longest runs without a home win, longest run without an away win (13 at the time), longest overall run without a win (7) and some others.

7 times this season we’ve conceded 3 or more at home, that’s over a third of our home games. We’ve dropped 32 points from winning positions this season, the worst in the division. Had our worst result since 1948 in a spell of conceding 6, 5, 3, 2 and 5 again in consecutive home games. Started the season with 1 win in 7, then had spells of 1 win in 13, 1 win in 8 then 1 in 8 again all this season. Out of the league cup in the first round. 1 draw in the pizza cup against 10-man Man City u18s and drew away at semi-pro Slough town who were near the bottom of the national league south in the FA Cup.

And there’s people on here asking why anyone chooses to leave games early? Anyone who watches this shower on a regular basis needs a medal.

As the song goes "Things can only get better "

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Think there are two key reasons. Firstly, we are a poor crowd at home for backing the team when they really need us I.e. when they are struggling to get into games and not playing well. It’s a bit chicken & egg, team play on front foot, get stuck in and crowd get bethel. Give away a goal, make a couple of inerrant passes and some fans are on their back straight away and think this the result of us playing pretty mediocre football in home matches for several seasons and we get frustrated that yet again our hopes for the team, the result and the performance are going to be well below the standards we rightly expect.

Secondly this current side in particular don’t appear to be able to cope with a big gate, with big expectations and a higher degree of pressure. Cartwright in particular seems on edge and that maybe is do with his age, Rogers is another who seems to crumble once he hears a couple of moans and groans. Some like Rose and I think Tharme thrive on it but too many just don’t have the cajones to turn a game and the crowd around once they fall behind. You knew today once they scored it was game over you could just feel it in the ground.

Seems years since I stood in the old Barrett Stand for a night match and the place felt alive and you could see it was the opposition that was intimidated by the crowd not are own players. Just seems a pretty soulless place most times nowadays.

To be fair we get 6000 every week now anyway, a big crowd these days just means there will be a full away end.
This squad should be used to it by now

Quoted from ska face

It’s amazing we’re getting anything above 2000 at home given the turd dished up to long-suffering home fans in the last few decades. Some of the stats I’ve seen on social media in the last few weeks make for shocking reading, all these are across the entire EFL -

Lowest goals per game average last 10 seasons:
1. GTFC (1.07 gpg)

Teams with longest run without back-to-back wins (inc prem):
4. GTFC (50 games)

Worst goal difference this century:
1. GTFC (minus 244)

Lowest goals per game at home average this century:
2. GTFC (1.24 gpg)

Most league games lost in football league history:
3. GTFC (1893)

Lowest goals per game last 5 years:
3. GTFC (1.03)

Most relegations in league history:
1. GTFC (17)

In amongst all that we’d been included in the top 5 for longest runs without a home win, longest run without an away win (13 at the time), longest overall run without a win (7) and some others.

7 times this season we’ve conceded 3 or more at home, that’s over a third of our home games. We’ve dropped 32 points from winning positions this season, the worst in the division. Had our worst result since 1948 in a spell of conceding 6, 5, 3, 2 and 5 again in consecutive home games. Started the season with 1 win in 7, then had spells of 1 win in 13, 1 win in 8 then 1 in 8 again all this season. Out of the league cup in the first round. 1 draw in the pizza cup against 10-man Man City u18s and drew away at semi-pro Slough town who were near the bottom of the national league south in the FA Cup.

And there’s people on here asking why anyone chooses to leave games early? Anyone who watches this shower on a regular basis needs a medal.

Good God. Although most of us have lived through it in real time, to see it written down like that is startling to say the least.

Anybody under a certain age have experienced nothing but abject failure in the Football league which is a horrible thought. How we are getting nearly full home ends is one of life's mysteries.

There is a solution however. We need a good manager and good players and all will be well. The owners can change the club in their own image as much as they want, but they will only be deemed successful if they oversee success in the EFL.

They have put some much needed basics in place but obviously have to get some real quality on the pitch.

Quoted from ska face

It’s amazing we’re getting anything above 2000 at home given the turd dished up to long-suffering home fans in the last few decades. Some of the stats I’ve seen on social media in the last few weeks make for shocking reading, all these are across the entire EFL -

Lowest goals per game average last 10 seasons:
1. GTFC (1.07 gpg)

Teams with longest run without back-to-back wins (inc prem):
4. GTFC (50 games)

Worst goal difference this century:
1. GTFC (minus 244)

Lowest goals per game at home average this century:
2. GTFC (1.24 gpg)

Most league games lost in football league history:
3. GTFC (1893)

Lowest goals per game last 5 years:
3. GTFC (1.03)

Most relegations in league history:
1. GTFC (17)

In amongst all that we’d been included in the top 5 for longest runs without a home win, longest run without an away win (13 at the time), longest overall run without a win (7) and some others.

7 times this season we’ve conceded 3 or more at home, that’s over a third of our home games. We’ve dropped 32 points from winning positions this season, the worst in the division. Had our worst result since 1948 in a spell of conceding 6, 5, 3, 2 and 5 again in consecutive home games. Started the season with 1 win in 7, then had spells of 1 win in 13, 1 win in 8 then 1 in 8 again all this season. Out of the league cup in the first round. 1 draw in the pizza cup against 10-man Man City u18s and drew away at semi-pro Slough town who were near the bottom of the national league south in the FA Cup.

And there’s people on here asking why anyone chooses to leave games early? Anyone who watches this shower on a regular basis needs a medal.

If we have been relegated 17 times and started in the 2nd tier, doesn’t that mean we must have been promoted 15 times?  If so that must rank pretty high surely? Do you have the stats on that?

Since 1998 we have also been in the playoffs 7 times and appeared in 4 cup finals. So it’s not been all doom and gloom.

Quoted from RonMariner

Since 1998 we have also been in the playoffs 7 times and appeared in 4 cup finals. So it’s not been all doom and gloom.

Yes but only two play offs and two cup finals were in the FL. Let’s face it, we’re a yo-yo club these days despite our good support.

Quoted from RonMariner

Since 1998 we have also been in the playoffs 7 times and appeared in 4 cup finals. So it’s not been all doom and gloom.

Each to their own and whilst they were sometimes enjoyable occasions in isolation, I’m not sure battling in the conference playoffs against the likes of Eastleigh and Braintree, or the occasional FA Trophy final loss to Halifax will really energise the next generation of town fans.

Quoted from ska face

It’s amazing we’re getting anything above 2000 at home given the turd dished up to long-suffering home fans in the last few decades. Some of the stats I’ve seen on social media in the last few weeks make for shocking reading, all these are across the entire EFL -

Lowest goals per game average last 10 seasons:
1. GTFC (1.07 gpg)

Teams with longest run without back-to-back wins (inc prem):
4. GTFC (50 games)

Worst goal difference this century:
1. GTFC (minus 244)

Lowest goals per game at home average this century:
2. GTFC (1.24 gpg)

Most league games lost in football league history:
3. GTFC (1893)

Lowest goals per game last 5 years:
3. GTFC (1.03)

Most relegations in league history:
1. GTFC (17)

In amongst all that we’d been included in the top 5 for longest runs without a home win, longest run without an away win (13 at the time), longest overall run without a win (7) and some others.

7 times this season we’ve conceded 3 or more at home, that’s over a third of our home games. We’ve dropped 32 points from winning positions this season, the worst in the division. Had our worst result since 1948 in a spell of conceding 6, 5, 3, 2 and 5 again in consecutive home games. Started the season with 1 win in 7, then had spells of 1 win in 13, 1 win in 8 then 1 in 8 again all this season. Out of the league cup in the first round. 1 draw in the pizza cup against 10-man Man City u18s and drew away at semi-pro Slough town who were near the bottom of the national league south in the FA Cup.

And there’s people on here asking why anyone chooses to leave games early? Anyone who watches this shower on a regular basis needs a medal.

Fantastic post and startling in equal measure

Quoted from Plankton

The ground's soul is well and truly gone. It does not create an atmosphere, you look at grounds with 4k attendances and the sound is better. We're in an ever aging stadia that's never really been one for an atmosphere since the 90s.

It's more to do with the crap performances and players unable to do the simple things like pass to a team mate.

Quoted from ska face

Each to their own and whilst they were sometimes enjoyable occasions in isolation, I’m not sure battling in the conference playoffs against the likes of Eastleigh and Braintree, or the occasional FA Trophy final loss to Halifax will really energise the next generation of town fans.

But the 2022 playoff campaign just might!

Apart from those appalling stats - we are ok? 😅😓😩

Sorry for a flippant reply.  Despite the litany of failure above, we did set a national record in beating 5 teams in the FAC from higher divisions.

Our record winning in ET at Notts County and Wrexham was also rare and very special.  Sometimes a lack of money and skill can be overcome by guts, character and never giving in.

Also by dint of being the most relegated team, we are also the most promoted. It’s never boring.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Apart from those appalling stats - we are ok? 😅😓😩

We are only ok if we can manage to stay up and keep our league status , anything other than that will be horrendous for not only the club but us fans. Pre season I had so much excitement and expectations about what we could achieve but as each week went by the reality that we were not as good as we thought we were started to sink in and we have now got to the stage of the season that we are really hoping the results of other teams below us save us.Hey ho, the joys of following town. UTM

When you consider everything those stats are incredible.
I bet there are not many teams in Europe worse than that.

Should we hope for a low attendance against Bradford in the hope the players perform better.

Sick of watching a lack of any sort of quality. On Saturday we had one "flowing move" all game. This is a terrible squad (with two exceptions) and we will be mighty lucky to survive. If fans think Thompson is a good signing then they have either never seen some of the great midfielders we have had here or are too young. Personally I think he was gash on Saturday and tries to be too clever by half and has mostly flattered to deceive. He was blowing out of his arsenal after 60 minutes again. Dont know where we go from here. I look at our management team and I don't see them developing a quality squad but hope I am wrong.

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Sick of watching a lack of any sort of quality. On Saturday we had one "flowing move" all game. This is a terrible squad (with two exceptions) and we will be mighty lucky to survive. If fans think Thompson is a good signing then they have either never seen some of the great midfielders we have had here or are too young. Personally I think he was gash on Saturday and tries to be too clever by half and has mostly flattered to deceive. He was blowing out of his arsenal after 60 minutes again. Dont know where we go from here. I look at our management team and I don't see them developing a quality squad but hope I am wrong.

Yes we've been desentised to know what a good player is.

Any new player who doesn't make his second touch a tackle, or actually puts some effort in or scores a goal is lauded as the second coming, even by the manager who was obviously thrilled to bits that Obikwu had 2 slightly better games and actually scored.

Cartwright isn't ready, the Coventry lad isn't ready, the seasoned pros have gone backwards at a rate of knots, the wide players create nowt, we have no pace, we have no guile and the defending is abysmal. On Saturday it was downright insulting to the fans that not one of the starting 11 could control the ball, or seemingly have enough energy to get to the ball first.

If a team plays nice possession football we sometimes manage to fend them off, but anybody with a bit of pace and hunger about them and its like lambs to the slaughter.

We need to let as many players go as we can in the summer and start again, preferably with an idea of what we are trying to achieve. The budget will have to reflect the realities of modern league 2 football.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Yes we've been desentised to know what a good player is.

Any new player who doesn't make his second touch a tackle, or actually puts some effort in or scores a goal is lauded as the second coming, even by the manager who was obviously thrilled to bits that Obikwu had 2 slightly better games and actually scored.

Cartwright isn't ready, the Coventry lad isn't ready, the seasoned pros have gone backwards at a rate of knots, the wide players create nowt, we have no pace, we have no guile and the defending is abysmal. On Saturday it was downright insulting to the fans that not one of the starting 11 could control the ball, or seemingly have enough energy to get to the ball first.

If a team plays nice possession football we sometimes manage to fend them off, but anybody with a bit of pace and hunger about them and its like lambs to the slaughter.

We need to let as many players go as we can in the summer and start again, preferably with an idea of what we are trying to achieve. The budget will have to reflect the realities of modern league 2 football.

Pretty accurate summary of our current situation and obviously at least three people don’t like facing the facts of how poor this side is.

I saw John Cockerill walking down the prom on Sunday, thought how we could do with someone like him now, Cockers and Cunnington were great midfield players for us.

Looking at the remaining games for FGR and Sutton it would be pretty incredible for either of them to get 13 more points. Four wins and a draw from 7 and 6 remaining games respectively. So getting to 46 points is very unlikely for either of them.

Two wins and a draw get us there and you have to say that the home games against Bradford Swindon and Newport give us a great chance of doing that.

I don’t fancy our chances of getting much out of the Barrow game but a win on Monday will put us in a really strong position. In fact I am beginning to think 45 points will keep us up.

If we don’t manage that then quite frankly we don’t deserve to stay up.