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Humbercod
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Hard work is paying off well done Artell
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Totally agree, really impressed on how he’s switched it up to protect our weaknesses.  I won’t hide from loving Paul Hurst as our manager but I saw tonight a huge difference:

There were time where Hurst, amazing (usually) at building a squad would wait far too long to change a problem we all saw - sometimes to our detriment.  Tonight, Artell spotted how deep our wingers had gotten early, swapped them both  despite Gnahoua’s good showing, and that change helped us get it over the line.

I know this is probably not his style but Artell has shown willingness to compromise his vision & game plan to get a result & I can’t fault that.
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The levels of abuse he got in the weeks he was clearly getting to grips with things was ridiculous. He’s shown himself to be a very tactical astute manager over the past 5 games, we seem to be easing our way into playing a bit of football again at times as well.

I’d say the signs are positive for next season.
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Once he realised trying to play ourselves out of trouble wasn’t going to work we had a chance plus the centre back pairing seems to have jelled which helps things no end. Still plenty to do but the moods changed for the better
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Great result town ⚽⚽🥳🥳🥳
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I was pretty strident in my view that Artell should have gone after Donny. Look, I think it’s important to be able to put your hands up and admit when you were wrong about something, but there was no shortage of circumstantial evidence that something was seriously amiss. 21 goals conceded in 6 games is a crazy stat, especially when 1 of those results was a clean sheet.

My view at the time was simply that Artell was tactically bonkers, and that the players were devoid of confidence in the manager. The systematic approach and body language in those Stockport and Doncaster games appeared to speak volumes.

But the turnaround since is nothing short of remarkable. To go from conceding 21 in 6, to just 2 in 5 (when one of them was a penalty that should never have been given) is even more mental than the original stat. It’s just not something you see in football.

But neither can be fluke. If Artell deserved criticism for that terrible run - and he did, then he deserves huge credit for what’s transpired since. He’s shown tactical chops I didn’t think he had. Tonight, in particular, was a tactical masterclass.

79% possession sounds like an absolute skullfúcking. But for all that possession (and precisely 500 more passes according to the Sky stats) they managed 1 less shot in total than Town, 2 fewer on target and 0 chances of note. Meanwhile we’ve scored a goal, missed a penalty, had a good penalty shout denied and then, in the same passage of play, hit the inside of the post. I genuinely can’t remember the save Cartwright apparently made tonight.

A lot of credit has to go to the players, too, who certainly appear to be playing for the manager. They’ve shown a lot of grit this past 2 or 3 weeks - grit I think many people, myself included, didn’t think they had.

Still work to be done. Forest Green are showing they aren’t going away, and I don’t think we can afford to completely forget that wretched run at the beginning of the year until we are safe, but the signs are magnitudes more positive than I ever could have believed they might have been under Artell just a few weeks ago.


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Their only chance was one which Tharme cleared at the back post, ball was goalbound and he was in the right place to shin it away.

Good battling once again, but it was frustrating how many counter-attacks we butchered ourselves. Several chances to increase the lead and we weren't able to work it intelligently enough to even get a shot on goal.
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Their only chance was one which Tharme cleared at the back post, ball was goalbound and he was in the right place to shin it away.

Good battling once again, but it was frustrating how many counter-attacks we butchered ourselves. Several chances to increase the lead and we weren't able to work it intelligently enough to even get a shot on goal.


Which explains why I don’t remember Cartwright making a save - he didn’t. Tells a story.


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The levels of abuse he got in the weeks he was clearly getting to grips with things was ridiculous. He’s shown himself to be a very tactical astute manager over the past 5 games, we seem to be easing our way into playing a bit of football again at times as well.

I’d say the signs are positive for next season.


Im not trying to be difficult here, but it really wasnt ridiculous.

We were getting absolutely humiliated and he was steadfast point blank telling us things that were simply not true. We conceded 5 goals in 3 of our first 5 games of the year. “Lost 5-1. Lost 6-1. And then came out saying we’d played well. I know you love trying to be right, but its not remotely true to say that the abuse/ judgement he was getting was ridiculous


Good on him for changing style, and he’s done it well, not knocking him and he deserves credit for that, I still say he was forced to change as opposed to wanting to change however.
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Im not trying to be difficult here, but it really wasnt ridiculous.

We were getting absolutely humiliated and he was steadfast point blank telling us things that were simply not true. We conceded 5 goals in 3 of our first 5 games of the year. “Lost 5-1. Lost 6-1. And then came out saying we’d played well. I know you love trying to be right, but its not remotely true to say that the abuse/ judgement he was getting was ridiculous


Good on him for changing style, and he’s done it well, not knocking him and he deserves credit for that, I still say he was forced to change as opposed to wanting to change however.


Totally. And hopefully games like this were we've had a game plan to dig in and hit on the counter is literally showing him before his eyes that possession and pointless possession between CBs in your own half in particular, is not in itself a good display.
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