Who is head of recruitement.?

That’s a strong point. But fannying about with it at the back is likely to compound your problems with conceding goals.

Quoted from chaos33

I agree with that. The bigger point for me is that if you don’t have players who are decent at:

Controlling the ball
Passing
Moving quickly into space
Anticipating
Positioning themselves correctly
Being physically and athletically competent

Then playing out from the back is likely to add to your problems. In my opinion we’re not good at any of the above; that’s why we are in a mess and why we need better players.

Or at the very least be pragmatic until we’ve no chance of getting sucked into a relegation battle then work on the style bit in the pre season.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Or at the very least be pragmatic until we’ve no chance of getting sucked into a relegation battle then work on the style bit in the pre season.

Yeah I would agree.

We could always go back to the scintillating football of Paul Hurst. We weren't winning many hoofing it up the pitch, and the entertainment was next to nil. Football is supposed to be entertaining, and one of the reasons Artell was brought in was to try and achieve this. There will be bumps in the road along the way. Playing out from the back is much more entertaining than seeing the ball sailing through the air and hoping the centre forward can do something with it.

We simply must change the narrative around Blundell Park, because for season after season, the results and the football on display has been shockingly bad under several managers.

Our constant troubles are highlighted by the disgraceful stat that of the last 21 seasons in the Football League, we have finished with a negative goal difference in 19 of them. Since we returned to the league in 2016, our goal difference is -93, and if you take it back to 2004, it is -145. I think that sinks the notion that we have been anything other than sh1te for 20 years, yet some cling onto a style of play that has brought nothing but relegation dogfights.

Now I don't know about anyone else, but I am about sick to death of boring, negative, losing football under manager after manager, season after season, and Artell is trying to address that by changing the whole ethos. I hope to god he achieves it because I don't think I can take many more seasons of dross, and will start finding something more enjoyable to do on a weekend if it carries on.

I, and others, have been nothing but patient, waiting for things to change around the club, and I will give Artell time too, especially as he is trying to change things. If this doesn't work, then I think my patience will finally run out.

Quoted from ginnywings

We could always go back to the scintillating football of Paul Hurst. We weren't winning many hoofing it up the pitch, and the entertainment was next to nil. Football is supposed to be entertaining, and one of the reasons Artell was brought in was to try and achieve this. There will be bumps in the road along the way. Playing out from the back is much more entertaining than seeing the ball sailing through the air and hoping the centre forward can do something with it.

We simply must change the narrative around Blundell Park, because for season after season, the results and the football on display has been shockingly bad under several managers.

Our constant troubles are highlighted by the disgraceful stat that of the last 21 seasons in the Football League, we have finished with a negative goal difference in 19 of them. Since we returned to to the league in 2016, our goal difference is -93, and if you take it back to 2004, it is -145. I think that sinks the notion that we have been anything other sh1te for 20 years, yet some cling onto a style of play that has brought nothing but relegation dogfights.

Now I don't know about anyone else, but I am about sick to death of boring, negative, losing football under manager after manager, season after season, and Artell is trying to address that by changing the whole ethos. I hope to god he achieves it because I don't think I can take many more seasons of dross, and will start finding something more enjoyable to do on a weekend if it carries on.

I, and others, have been nothing but patient, waiting for things to change around the club, and I will give Artell time too, especially as he is trying to change things. If this doesn't work, then I think my patience will finally run out.

As always mate, a compelling post.

Quoted from ginnywings

We could always go back to the scintillating football of Paul Hurst. We weren't winning many hoofing it up the pitch, and the entertainment was next to nil. Football is supposed to be entertaining, and one of the reasons Artell was brought in was to try and achieve this. There will be bumps in the road along the way. Playing out from the back is much more entertaining than seeing the ball sailing through the air and hoping the centre forward can do something with it.

We simply must change the narrative around Blundell Park, because for season after season, the results and the football on display has been shockingly bad under several managers.

Our constant troubles are highlighted by the disgraceful stat that of the last 21 seasons in the Football League, we have finished with a negative goal difference in 19 of them. Since we returned to the league in 2016, our goal difference is -93, and if you take it back to 2004, it is -145. I think that sinks the notion that we have been anything other than sh1te for 20 years, yet some cling onto a style of play that has brought nothing but relegation dogfights.

Now I don't know about anyone else, but I am about sick to death of boring, negative, losing football under manager after manager, season after season, and Artell is trying to address that by changing the whole ethos. I hope to god he achieves it because I don't think I can take many more seasons of dross, and will start finding something more enjoyable to do on a weekend if it carries on.

I, and others, have been nothing but patient, waiting for things to change around the club, and I will give Artell time too, especially as he is trying to change things. If this doesn't work, then I think my patience will finally run out.

Totally this.

For years, the entertaining games have been a rarity, Artell spent 5 years at Crewe, he surely needs more than 5 weeks to impose his methods on someone else’s players.

Quoted from ginnywings

We could always go back to the scintillating football of Paul Hurst. We weren't winning many hoofing it up the pitch, and the entertainment was next to nil. Football is supposed to be entertaining, and one of the reasons Artell was brought in was to try and achieve this. There will be bumps in the road along the way. Playing out from the back is much more entertaining than seeing the ball sailing through the air and hoping the centre forward can do something with it.

We simply must change the narrative around Blundell Park, because for season after season, the results and the football on display has been shockingly bad under several managers.

Our constant troubles are highlighted by the disgraceful stat that of the last 21 seasons in the Football League, we have finished with a negative goal difference in 19 of them. Since we returned to the league in 2016, our goal difference is -93, and if you take it back to 2004, it is -145. I think that sinks the notion that we have been anything other than sh1te for 20 years, yet some cling onto a style of play that has brought nothing but relegation dogfights.

Now I don't know about anyone else, but I am about sick to death of boring, negative, losing football under manager after manager, season after season, and Artell is trying to address that by changing the whole ethos. I hope to god he achieves it because I don't think I can take many more seasons of dross, and will start finding something more enjoyable to do on a weekend if it carries on.

I, and others, have been nothing but patient, waiting for things to change around the club, and I will give Artell time too, especially as he is trying to change things. If this doesn't work, then I think my patience will finally run out.

I don’t disagree TBH, I’m still confident that winning more games will come under Artell.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I don’t disagree TBH, I’m still confident that winning more games will come under Artell.

I think we’ve seen enough green shoots in Artell’s brief tenure so far to have confidence that we will, but he has also just presided over the club’s heaviest home league defeat since 1947. And this time against Walsall rather than Liverpool. It’s stating the bleeding obvious, but that’s really the kind of result he could have done without at this stage of his reign.

I’m sure it will prove to be an aberration - a once in 77 year result, but he’ll need to avoid many more major hiccups in the coming weeks and months if he wants to keep the fans on board, en masse. That’s just how football, and more specifically Blundell Park, works.

Our leaky bucket of a defence that made our Walsall whooping possible is by no means Artell’s fault, we’ve been shockingly generous at the back for a side assembled by Paul Hurst, virtually all season. That said, it’s absolutely his problem to solve, and I think most would accept some pragmatic 1-0 wins over the course of the next 5 or 6 games. Off the ball, rather than on it, has to be his priority in this brief FA Cup assisted hiatus we are currently in the middle of.

Quoted from chaos33

I agree with that. The bigger point for me is that if you don’t have players who are decent at:

Controlling the ball
Passing
Moving quickly into space
Anticipating
Positioning themselves correctly
Being physically and athletically competent

Then playing out from the back is likely to add to your problems. In my opinion we’re not good at any of the above; that’s why we are in a mess and why we need better players.

Theres not much left then.

Depends on whether we acquire better players before the next game and beyond. In my opinion, an example we could look at following in terms of set-up is how Carrick has Middlesbrough playing. It would absolutely address our glaring weakness of being brittle and completely open through central positions, especially when we lose the ball - which we do a lot. I’d like to see us crowd central areas and become difficult to score against as a kind of ‘back to basics’ approach.