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FA Youth Cup draw - They must be played by Saturday 20 January 2024
1 Wolverhampton Wanderers v Burnley or Birmingham City or Queens Park Rangers 2 Gillingham or Oxford United v Sunderland or Middlesbrough 3 Newcastle United or Leyton Orient v AFC Bournemouth 4 Grimsby Town v Millwall 5 Everton or Stockport County v Leicester City or Chelsea 6 AFC Fylde or Hull City v Plymouth Argyle or Crystal Palace 7 Brighton & Hove Albion v Norwich City or Leeds United 8 Swansea City v Cardiff City or Fulham 9 Sheffield United v AFC Wimbledon or Blackburn Rovers or Cheltenham Town 10 Bristol City or Stoke City v Huddersfield Town or Charlton Athletic 11 Luton Town or Swindon Town v Manchester United or Derby County 12 Fleetwood Town or Liverpool v Arsenal or Crewe Alexandra 13 West Ham United or Southampton v Watford or Manchester City 14 Coventry City v Barnsley 15 Sheffield Wednesday v Reading or Rotherham United or Hemel Hempstead Town 16 Burton Albion or Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur
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Is there any sort of coherent league structure at under-18 level that gives some level of indication of the respective strength of youth sides?
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What level are they at compared to us?
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Do they have 3-way games at youth level these days?
v Reading or Rotherham United or Hemel Hempstead Town
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Is there any sort of coherent league structure at under-18 level that gives some level of indication of the respective strength of youth sides?
We play in the regional EFL Youth Alliance (North East Conference) and are 2nd. 46 teams total at this level. Millwall play one level up in Professional Development League (Southern) and are mid table. 21 teams total. Forest play above this in the U18 Premier League (Northern) and are mid table 26 teams total.
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We play in the regional EFL Youth Alliance (North East Conference) and are 2nd. 46 teams total at this level.
Millwall play one level up in Professional Development League (Southern) and are mid table. 21 teams total.
Forest play above this in the U18 Premier League (Northern) and are mid table 26 teams total.
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FairPlay to Hemel Hempstead must have some youth setup.
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FairPlay to Hemel Hempstead must have some youth setup.
Maybe not! Their tie says Reading or Rotherham United or Hemel Hempstead Town so they've probably only got to the round 2 rounds before the one we've just won.
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Millwall 3-3 with Barking at home not exactly a great endorsement of quality.
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Does any team play in a comparatively lower league than its youth setup?
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We are playing in one of only 2 ties in the draw where the opponents are known.
We are ahead of the game. Maybe fixture backlog and/ or bad weather will impact adversely on any possible future opponents.
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Lets hope the team can play at BP again.
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Good luck in their cup progress !
I hope that over the next couple of years, the Academy set up can find and develop more "of our own" players with good scouting, better conditions with any new training facilities ongoing for all player levels.
Combine Artell's previous Crewe experience with Woods current work, and hopefully there could be parental and young player trust to send them here to get a fair chance to make a career at our level, instead of obscurity in higher levels who are just scooping up everyone, regardless of cost, to be cast out whenever convenient !.
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Lets hope the team can play at BP again.
Was told it’s a requirement of the competition that games are played at the club’s stadium not the training grounds
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Good luck in their cup progress !
I hope that over the next couple of years, the Academy set up can find and develop more "of our own" players with good scouting, better conditions with any new training facilities ongoing for all player levels.
Combine Artell's previous Crewe experience with Woods current work, and hopefully there could be parental and young player trust to send them here to get a fair chance to make a career at our level, instead of obscurity in higher levels who are just scooping up everyone, regardless of cost, to be cast out whenever convenient !.
The man we need to keep hold of is Callum Lester.. Artell n 1878 really need to keep him on board n give him some career progression
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Maybe not! Their tie says Reading or Rotherham United or Hemel Hempstead Town so they've probably only got to the round 2 rounds before the one we've just won.
its Hemel Hempstead mate, what tier are they in again, yet have a youth team doing better than some.
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The man we need to keep hold of is Callum Lester.. Artell n 1878 really need to keep him on board n give him some career progression
Callum is a great guy, very family orientated and very settled in the area. I expect he'll take the role of Woodsy or a role in the first team in the future.
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Callum is a great guy, very family orientated and very settled in the area. I expect he'll take the role of Woodsy or a role in the first team in the future.
I hope you're right
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The man we need to keep hold of is Callum Lester.. Artell n 1878 really need to keep him on board n give him some career progression
I took a role coaching the Academy some years ago and was assigned to work with Callum in the U9s. I ended up being there for 2 weeks at the threat of divorce (I had three football teams on the go taking up every evening and all weekend.... something had to give and at the time it was the sensible option to give up, with hindsight I should have binned the others off), but in those two weeks I possibly learned more from Callum than I had in the previous 5/6/7 years I'd been coaching. Very detailed, very good communicator, sets himself high standards and expects those around him to meet them and a very knowledgeable and competent coach too. Despite it only being two weeks and not really having a deep and personal conversation during that time it hasn't surprised me how he has progressed through, it was immediately apparent that he has a future in the game.
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its Hemel Hempstead mate, what tier are they in again, yet have a youth team doing better than some.
Same as Slough, National Lge South.
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Thanks Bedders. Appreciate that.
We played Millwall U18s pre season on tour in Italy. We lost 2-1 but didn’t have Abo or Cribby then as hadn’t signed and also Cam Gardner, Cam Walsh wasn’t fit to play. All four of those are in starting 11 if fit and an integral part of youth team this season.
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The U18s won there Youth Alliance Cup group today beating Wrexham in 2nd 5-1. Only the winners of the 5 northern groups progress to the quarter final where all the regions combine. Great season so far 2nd in the league 4th round of FA Youth Cup which I’m told is the furthest Grimsby have been, should they progress it will be the furthest a Grimsby team have been in the prestigous cup. Quarter Finals of the Youth Alliance Cup.
I think that’s 15 unbeaten today.
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We play in the regional EFL Youth Alliance (North East Conference) and are 2nd. 46 teams total at this level.
Millwall play one level up in Professional Development League (Southern) and are mid table. 21 teams total.
Forest play above this in the U18 Premier League (Northern) and are mid table 26 teams total.
Category 1, 2, 3 & 4
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I understand Cam gardener n brown were unplayable today
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The U18s won there Youth Alliance Cup group today beating Wrexham in 2nd 5-1. Only the winners of the 5 northern groups progress to the quarter final where all the regions combine. Great season so far 2nd in the league 4th round of FA Youth Cup which I’m told is the furthest Grimsby have been, should they progress it will be the furthest a Grimsby team have been in the prestigous cup. Quarter Finals of the Youth Alliance Cup.
I think that’s 15 unbeaten today.
Must be more scouts than supporters at their games recently. Hopefully we can get decent money for a few of them
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Must be more scouts than supporters at their games recently. Hopefully we can get decent money for a few of them
Trying to get first dib dib dib on our players?
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Must be more scouts than supporters at their games recently. Hopefully we can get decent money for a few of them
Did you used to live on Wybers Way, by any chance?! Well, if you did you were in good company - as a Wybers boy myself I remember Trevor Whymark lived on that road! I was very young at the time but remember a local town nut pointing him out to me, years before I started going. Unless it’s my mind that’s going?! But I don’t believe so.
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Did you used to live on Wybers Way, by any chance?! Well, if you did you were in good company - as a Wybers boy myself I remember Trevor Whymark lived on that road! I was very young at the time but remember a local town nut pointing him out to me, years before I started going. Unless it’s my mind that’s going?! But I don’t believe so.
Another Wybers boy.....same here Byland Grove.
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Must be more scouts than supporters at their games recently. Hopefully we can get decent money for a few of them
I’d rather they stayed here and progressed to the first team, more chance of making some proper money if they’re good enough, rather than just the usual 10-20 grand compensation at youth level.
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I’d rather they stayed here and progressed to the first team, more chance of making some proper money if they’re good enough, rather than just the usual 10-20 grand compensation at youth level.
Wasn't £10k for Ben Grist!
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Apparently Grist was £250k, which passes all the risk onto Leicester. If we could sell 2-3 of the youth squad for similar amounts, maybe with sell ons as well, then surely that’s the best option? Otherwise, I think they get lost between the youth team and the first team
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Where did Gardner come from anyway? Understand he’s from the north east but seem to remember it being mentioned we signed him from a team in the north west - was it Morecambe?
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Apparently Grist was £250k, which passes all the risk onto Leicester. If we could sell 2-3 of the youth squad for similar amounts, maybe with sell ons as well, then surely that’s the best option? Otherwise, I think they get lost between the youth team and the first team
Agree with this; incidentally I think there are add ons with Ben's deal. What's the old saying? ' you can't miss what you haven't got' ? If we get decent money for players who haven't even appeared for the first team, we'd be stupid to turn it down. And what we do have on our side is the vast amount of experience we have in the club viz-a-vis Academies, youth development etc. in Artell, Jennings & Woods, so I'd be amazed if anyone didn't trust their judgement. Just on a slightly different tack, I heard that the under 16s are a pretty talented bunch as well. Can you confirm Wybers, or any other youth-watchers on here?
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Agree with this; incidentally I think there are add ons with Ben's deal.
What's the old saying? ' you can't miss what you haven't got' ? If we get decent money for players who haven't even appeared for the first team, we'd be stupid to turn it down. And what we do have on our side is the vast amount of experience we have in the club viz-a-vis Academies, youth development etc. in Artell, Jennings & Woods, so I'd be amazed if anyone didn't trust their judgement.
Just on a slightly different tack, I heard that the under 16s are a pretty talented bunch as well.
Can you confirm Wybers, or any other youth-watchers on here?
There is one player in the U16’s that will make it . He’s a special player and head and shoulders above any player I’ve seen at that age .
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Wasn't £10k for Ben Grist!
Yep it was, I meant £100-200k. I still find it quite sad that some would rather these lads never kick a ball for the first team and just cash in, rather than see them play for town. Makes you wonder if that’s the actual point of the youth team as opposed to being a source of talent for the first team.
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There is one player in the U16’s that will make it . He’s a special player and head and shoulders above any player I’ve seen at that age .
do tell more...
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do tell more...
Not fair is it ? All I’ll say is he reminds me of Mcatee
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Makes you wonder if that’s the actual point of the youth team as opposed to being a source of talent for the first team.
There are benefits for the community like coaching and facilities for the youngsters 🙂
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Where did Gardner come from anyway? Understand he’s from the north east but seem to remember it being mentioned we signed him from a team in the north west - was it Morecambe?
He came from Gateshead, this team is mostly made up of players we've took from other sides with a sprinkling of local talent. Harvey Cribb has already played 15 games in L2 and is one of the most promising players we have. I'm lead to believe a few of these lads have deals on the table meaning that any fee we recieve would be substantial and obviously Cameron Gardner has already signed a 3 year deal.
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He came from Gateshead, this team is mostly made up of players we've took from other sides with a sprinkling of local talent. Harvey Cribb has already played 15 games in L2 and is one of the most promising players we have. I'm lead to believe a few of these lads have deals on the table meaning that any fee we recieve would be substantial and obviously Cameron Gardner has already signed a 3 year deal.
What do you mean by ‘deals on the table’? Are there youth players refusing to sign them?
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What do you mean by ‘deals on the table’? Are there youth players refusing to sign them?
No refusal, but obviously there's a lot of interest in certain players from clubs. Could be waiting to see how it plays out but most of the players are also first years.
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