Match Thread Oxford FA Cup

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Artell has had 3 training sessions with the team, probably one actual full session. He’s implemented his style on the team already and that’s how we’re going to play. Like Ange at Tottenham, he doesn’t see any other way of playing football. Sometimes it’ll win us games, sometimes it’ll lose us games but we’re going to have a good time along the way. Like he said himself it’s going to take time. Sometimes he’ll come off the pitch and have no explanation for what he’s just seen, but when it clicks we’ll be a success and we’ve already seen after 2 games in charge, 2 of the worst games you could of probably asked for by the way that we’re going to be fine. We aren’t fannying about with it at the back for no reason, the players will be drilled and learn to spot triggers. Triggers is a coaching term for when someone does something then you progress the ball forward. Man City have a trigger that when someone goes into press Rodri then Foden tucks in off the right and Walker creates an overload on the right hand side or vice versa dependant on what side of the play the ball is on. It’s quite obvious we’re going to look to create overloads in the wide areas and use Conteh as our ‘ Rodri ‘ so to speak. David will know full well what he needs in January already. You learn most about a player when he’s thrown into the deep end and I think DA will be quite pleased with what he’s seen, but he’s a perfectionist and listening to his past interviews he’s a coach. He likes to coach players and improve them so I don’t think we’ll see a lot of movement in January, maybe a couple additions for depth purposes but his bread and butter is improving players he already has and there’s a high ceiling with a lot of the players within this team. Centre half is a problem position for me though and I think the quicker we can get Charles back the better.

Quoted from forza ivano

the point, surely, is that under PH we were passing it around at the back, but it went nowhere, apart from back along the defensive line. Under Artell it's done with far more purpose, the ball gets played forward more often, more quickly. We did it successfully half a dozen time son Tuesday and several times today.

From what I've been told the only coaching this lot got was Doig bawling n screaming from the sideline. This guy's approach is a massive change and it will take some getting used to

Quoted from forza ivano

the point, surely, is that under PH we were passing it around at the back, but it went nowhere, apart from back along the defensive line. Under Artell it's done with far more purpose, the ball gets played forward more often, more quickly. We did it successfully half a dozen time son Tuesday and several times today.

From what I've been told the only coaching this lot got was Doig bawling n screaming from the sideline. This guy's approach is a massive change and it will take some getting used to

Quoted from chaos33

I think k it’s fair to say this - other than at the top level, ‘playing out from the back’ is going to cost you way more goals than it creates. You see it on highlights shows every week. In abundance. Watch a load of football at Championship level and below and refute that. I understand the notion of building play, and of not squandering or gambling with possession, but our defenders, by and large, have not looked dependable, consistent, sharp, and technical. On balance, I see this as a silly thing for us to be doing. It’s just a view though. If the management want to use that model- well they are way more qualified than me.

I watched Middlesbrough a lot last season and a bit this and they do this, very deliberately, under Carrick. They are a very good passing side. I’ve seen, time and again, them put themselves under ridiculous pressure and concede needless stupid goals, corners and chances because of it. From the stands - everyone is incredulous. I’ve yet to see it lead to 1 chance created thanks to 14 passes completed. Might work for Man City ….everyone else…..it’s a very high risk very low reward/yield strategy and I’m utterly amazed at how prevalent it is in the EFL.

In my opinion - and I’ve already stated that this isn’t worth tuppence as I’m not a professional coach….this is not what we should be doing and it will cause us needless pressure and avoidable goals.

Quoted from toontown

You can play good football without having the goalkeeper playing it to a defender under pressure on the edge of his own box with his back to the opposition. The likelihood of the above situation leading to a goal against is more than it leading to a goal for.

Quoted from ska face

And how often does that happen? Not like town fans to get worked up about an unlikely, imaginary scenario. Yeah you might see one or two examples a week on the highlights, out of probably 80-100 goals on an average weekend, but they’re notable by virtue of being unusual. Maybe 1 goal a week from how many hundreds or thousands of goal kicks & restarts?

Over time - maybe not 5 days - you end up building a squad of players capable of better decision making. Better on the ball, braver, well drilled and with a better idea of what their next pass or movement will be. The sooner you get the ball into play, the sooner you can start to dictate what happens. A normal goal kick might get the ball 60 yards from your goal, but it’s a lottery what happens next - might go out of play, might run through, might come straight back down your throat, and 95% of the time you end up having to scrap it out in the middle of the park just to get possession in a congested area with players unsure if they’ll be going forwards or backwards.

Hurst was always described as “pragmatic”, which is fair enough. But ultimately if you’re always setting up to stop how you think the opposition might play, or to stop certain scenarios, you’re just building a team of stoppers and hoping something drops for you at the other end, you’re not building your own capabilities. It also means you end up chopping & changing personnel, tactics, lineups every week, so players struggle to build familiarity and routine.

I’d much rather us build our own capacity as a team, individuals, style of play etc. and have the opposition try and beat us at our game, than try & out think the opposition with a different strategy every match.