VAR Spurs v Chelsea *** And Now Man Utd

Something other than managerial talk.

Reflecting on the above game and I'm still bemused by some of the VAR decisions around the sending offs.

I'm coming from the view of somebody who has played the game albeit a good few years ago. I accept maybe I need to update my views in line with the modern game.

Firstly Romero's petulant kick out.  For me that's not a red but think back to Beckham in the world cup who's was less aggressive.  
We've seen reds for far far less so surely he should have been off if interpretations are applied consistently.

Next up the actual red card.  For me it was never a red. Played the ball, studs weren't up.
The ball spun away as a result of the challenge which left his leg to follow through.  But could he have prevented this?  I was always coached to never go in half hearted into a challenge as that's when you get yourself injured.  
Are we saying that when you make a tackle you should immediately pull you leg back to prevent a follow through?
I know I'll probably be in the minority.

Havey Rodgers got booked recently for the very same thing. Strong challenge but clearly took the ball.

And lastly Dan James elbow.  For me he knew exactly what he was doing. Looked at the player and there was movement of his arm towards the opposition player.  We've seen red after red for this but on this occasion VAR cleared it. Not even a yellow.  

I just think the games gone a bit soft and we've become over reliant on VAR. And the time it takes! 12 mins injury time in the first half. That's 25% additional time.
Madness.

For me VAR out.

Whilst I didn’t see the match in question, VAR has been allowed to creep too far into decision making. Seemingly every decision now involves VAR and referees seem happy to let the VAR control room decide on far too much. It was supposed to be for clear and obvious errors, but now consumes far too much of the match, resulting in loss of flow and games getting ever longer.

I’d prefer to move to a Wimbledon challenge style system, where a team is allowed say two challenges per match.

Classic case of mission creep.Tipping point reached .Var gone within 3 years

I’m a bit of a spurs fan and my biggest gripe was that Spurs lost all discipline even though they were winning 1-0 . They turned it into a fight

Quoted from 141269

Something other than managerial talk.

Reflecting on the above game and I'm still bemused by some of the VAR decisions around the sending offs.

I'm coming from the view of somebody who has played the game albeit a good few years ago. I accept maybe I need to update my views in line with the modern game.

Firstly Romero's petulant kick out.  For me that's not a red but think back to Beckham in the world cup who's was less aggressive.  
We've seen reds for far far less so surely he should have been off if interpretations are applied consistently.

Next up the actual red card.  For me it was never a red. Played the ball, studs weren't up.
The ball spun away as a result of the challenge which left his leg to follow through.  But could he have prevented this?  I was always coached to never go in half hearted into a challenge as that's when you get yourself injured.  
Are we saying that when you make a tackle you should immediately pull you leg back to prevent a follow through?
I know I'll probably be in the minority.

Havey Rodgers got booked recently for the very same thing. Strong challenge but clearly took the ball.

And lastly Dan James elbow.  For me he knew exactly what he was doing. Looked at the player and there was movement of his arm towards the opposition player.  We've seen red after red for this but on this occasion VAR cleared it. Not even a yellow.  

I just think the games gone a bit soft and we've become over reliant on VAR. And the time it takes! 12 mins injury time in the first half. That's 25% additional time.
Madness.

For me VAR out.

And that is the biggest problem with VAR , most decisions are still down to opinion instead of the reason it was brought in . Mistakes , clear and obvious errors .
I hate VAR

I’d happily see VAR scrapped, but on the proviso that we stop scrutinising referees’ decisions to the Nth degree. If we could accept that human error is part of the game then the sport would be better for it.

Unfortunately, if we scrapped it tomorrow, I suspect the media would still zoom in on every offside, do the whole slow-mo and/or pausing trick on tackles, which often makes them look terrible and/or dangerous. Then the first time an offside is missed and leads to a goal there will be a tsunami of moaning.

I wish they’d look into broadcasting the ref’s mic like they do in both the rugby codes – it’d help with transparency and, even if people didn’t agree with the decision made, it would maybe help us understand where they’re coming from.

Leave the decisions to the one man on the pitch, rather than a bunch of blokes in the VAR room who will each have their own varying opinions. Chaos.   VAR OUT.

At least in the pre-VAR days, you only had one clown to blame for bad decisions. There's a whole bunch of them now.

I don't disagree with much of the OP but I'm amazed anybody can look at the Romero red card and disagree with it. The kickout was petulant and stupid but it wasn't going to hurt anyone. The follow through on the one he was sent off for looked like a clear and deliberate attempt to leave one on Fernandez. Caught him high up the shin with studs up. How is that not a red regardless of whether he played the ball first?

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I don't disagree with much of the OP but I'm amazed anybody can look at the Romero red card and disagree with it. The kickout was petulant and stupid but it wasn't going to hurt anyone. The follow through on the one he was sent off for looked like a clear and deliberate attempt to leave one on Fernandez. Caught him high up the shin with studs up. How is that not a red regardless of whether he played the ball first?

Agree, as did all the ex pro footballer pundits