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pen penfras
November 9, 2023, 8:03pm

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You've forgotten that Eisa's goals earlier in the season didn't count because they were good.


Lots said he won't keep scoring screamers every week and we're in trouble when that happens. Looks like we were right. Nothing to do with them not counting, everything to do with us creating naff all
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The problem with Eisa of late isn't as much that he's stopped scoring screamers, but that he's missed some absolute sitters in games where we would probably have got some sort of a result if he'd tapped them in. I can think of a couple.

Obviously, if he'd scored other screamers after missing said sitters, it wouldn't be such an issue!
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The problem with Eisa of late isn't as much that he's stopped scoring screamers, but that he's missed some absolute sitters in games where we would probably have got some sort of a result if he'd tapped them in. I can think of a couple.

Obviously, if he'd scored other screamers after missing said sitters, it wouldn't be such an issue!


That's the irony here. When he was scoring those, we didn't create anything for someone to tap in. Now we are creating more, but missing easy chances.

Whilst we're missing sitters, I'm confident of moving up the league. If we stop creating because confidence drops lower then we're in real trouble
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November 10, 2023, 7:35am
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Think VAR is here to stay but needs tweaking as and when it should be used . For me has been overall a positive particularly during the world cups and European championships ( tend to follow more now than club football) but I admit has been some teething problems as well .


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Think VAR is here to stay but needs tweaking as and when it should be used . For me has been overall a positive particularly during the world cups and European championships ( tend to follow more now than club football) but I admit has been some teething problems as well .


I agree, it's here to stay and eventually coming our way. Personally , I think ex professional footballers should be involved in both VAR and the refereeing world which appears to be a cabal .
I've been led to understand that to referee in the premier league it's by invitation, maybe someone can clarify that .
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I agree, it's here to stay and eventually coming our way.  


I look back at certain instances in world football and feel at times the referee makes glaring mistakes on the most prestigious of nights which could potentially change the dreams of people. Howard Webb for instance not giving De Jong a straight red on Xabi Alonso after that flying kick in his chest in the 2010 world cup final. I get that people are only human and  high pressure matches can get to them which is why extra help is a bonus for me via VAR.


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Lots said he won't keep scoring screamers every week and we're in trouble when that happens. Looks like we were right. Nothing to do with them not counting, everything to do with us creating naff all


Erm, but we are scoring goals. The problem is we’re letting too many in. How many games have we failed to score in? How many have we failed to keep a clean sheet in?
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VAR was put to it's proper use in the West Ham game last night. They won 1-0, but without VAR, a perfectly good goal would have been ruled out for offside and cost them 2 points, which could be the difference between progressing or not in Europe.

Even then though, the time it took to arrive at the right decision was an age, when it was clear on first viewing of the replay that he was well onside.
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Quoted from Ruston AT


I agree, it's here to stay and eventually coming our way. Personally , I think ex professional footballers should be involved in both VAR and the refereeing world which appears to be a cabal .
I've been led to understand that to referee in the premier league it's by invitation, maybe someone can clarify that .


I have heard that ex players run a mile from being a ref because they don't want the grief.


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Erm, but we are scoring goals. The problem is we’re letting too many in. How many games have we failed to score in? How many have we failed to keep a clean sheet in?


We are creating chances now. The point about Eisa at the time was we weren't creating much and were relying on him scoring worldies but it was pointed out that the team couldn't count on him continuing to do that, as it was incredibly unlikely. He hasn't. The team have managed to start fashioning more chances but they are less defensively capable when doing that.
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