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Simple... He HAS to go right now.
We need our owners to sack Paul right now, we are in a seriously dangerous downfall right now and not many managers would get as long as he has, it's not an easy decision for the owners personally as I know they have a strong quite friendly relationship with Paul but in this job that has to be put aside and the important decisions still need to be made.
Please please put Paul out of his misery , he leaves with all the town fans respect but we need a change and we need it now.
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100% it’s gone too far now.
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Do we really need another thread on this?
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Do we really need another thread on this?
No we can just keep quiet and slide out the league again ffs
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Dunno but you've got one dav.
Last time I checked this was a Grimsby town football forum
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Goodbye Hurst go and cup your ear to some other fans. The most boring football ever at BP
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Honestly!! Little bit of rough water and all of a sudden. Believe me when I say this to shall pass. PH is the right man for the job. Keep the faith
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Probably the least infuriating game of recent weeks, but the losing streak continues
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3 in 20 this season now no other manager would of kept his job. Slough will batter us
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Honestly!! Little bit of rough water and all of a sudden. Believe me when I say this to shall pass. PH is the right man for the job. Keep the faith
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3 in 20 this season now no other manager would of kept his job. Slough will batter us
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I'm afraid to say but I think he's toast
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If anybody still thinks Paul Hurst can turn this around then they are quite clearly utterly and totally deluded.
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3 in 20 this season now no other manager would of kept his job. Slough will batter us
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It's time now, 3 wins in 16 is no way near good enough especially with the bigger budget. Thanks Mr Hurst.
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Agree with the OP. This can't go on any longer. I can't see any argument otherwise I'm afraid.
Allowing PH to continue any longer as manager of this club would be poor ownership/leadership. Can't just stick with him because he's a good guy and fits with the values or the owners. And can't keep saying we were unlucky or deserved more from the game. When it happens this many times, it ain't bad luck.
Thanks for the service Paul. You'll go with my utmost respect. But Jason and Andrew need to act immediately and have either a caretaker or new manager in place before the end of the weekend.
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You deserve non league football
A test of faith alright as well as patience, present thoughts having got my Slough ticket through the post ..could be seeing you at Bromley Aldeshot Dover and Woking etc . Joys of being a Grimsby Fan !! UTM
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Question is who do you get to replace him????
The team looks disjointed, we have an OK squad of players but who’s gonna be attracted to come manage us sitting 21st in the table?
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His signings have been utter crap, so for that reason he has to go. Chris Wilder anyone?
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We could do with Jedi’s help right now .
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His signings have been utter crap, so for that reason he has to go. Chris Wilder anyone?
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Question is who do you get to replace him????
That's what the club employ a CEO for and no doubt would expect from their link up with the Twenty First Century Group.
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Chris Wilder good shout
The Chris Wilder that looks to be taking over Sheff Utd in the Prem?
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I’ve tried to be patient but I feel after todays result that Paul’s time at town needs to be brought to an end, I really wanted him to pull through this and turn things around (he needed that time) but the rot has set in, you can tell by the players body language and Paul’s interviews too.
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Question is who do you get to replace him????
The team looks disjointed, we have an OK squad of players but who’s gonna be attracted to come manage us sitting 21st in the table?
Indeed who would / could /want to replace PH and come to Grimsby . Cringe at this thought "Better the Devil you Know" and some say "Ride the Waves" The ball is now firmly in the owners court for next move or statement on future please. Slough next week ..Hhhmmm UTM
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The Chris Wilder that looks to be taking over Sheff Utd in the Prem?
Paul Heckingbottom then?
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Indeed who would / could /want to replace PH and come to Grimsby .
Loads of people Football league club. Reasonable pay. I’m not sure Chris Wilder will be throwing his hat in the ring though.
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Question is who do you get to replace him????
The team looks disjointed, we have an OK squad of players but who’s gonna be attracted to come manage us sitting 21st in the table?
The next time we ask ourselves that question, we could be lower than 21st. The problem is this reply will garner a load of X's and yet those X applying "fans" can't/won't say how to fix it. We are 1/3 through the season and if it wasn't for a few clubs determined to be worse, then it would have been already Goodnight Vienna. I never realised till now you have to be a Lemming to be a Mariner fan. Extraordinary!
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If he does leave this week with us 4th bottom, isn’t that the same position we where in when he came back?
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1 point in the last five league games. 21st, having played a game more than the team one point below us. 3 wins in 16 games. It's a crisis alright.
It's starting to remind me of when Neil Woods was manager and game after game we threw away points as the board hoped he would turn it round. The result was that we were relegated to the NL.
I really really don't want to see that happen for a third time. It was a minor miracle that we escaped last time. But for a rush of blood to the head by a Notts County defender 14 seconds from the end of the playoff game I think we would still be in the NL.
We must not sleepwalk into relegation again. So I'm afraid we do need a change of manager.
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This is turning into a disaster for the club. If Hurst stays who is he likely to attract to a relegation fight as opposed to the summer when everything was rosy?
The only thing is to replace the manager quickly and let him make any further decisions and signings. Whilst we are struggling I still think we will get plenty of decent managerial applicants who would jump at the chance to work with these owners.
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Tweet 1718301778649711101 will appear here... For anyone who doesn't think we're in trouble.
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Think I would still stick with PH. Results are against us at the moment (and not helped by having a ref from RAF Waddington today) but early season injured players back getting match fitness now. A feature of his game management has been to resist substitutions as long as possible. But that is his method. He has turned things around in the past - albeit not in this division. Hopefully the appointed profilers will sign some useful additions to his squad in the January window.
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We need action from the owners now so don't make it a long goodbye. If the one man to blame isn't gone soon we will have two more who will get the flack.
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Won't be long before he gets another job I should think. Could be an interesting future day when he's on the opposition bench.
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Like Joe Ironside - Hursty turned him down when he played well for us at a pre season friendly at Harrogate
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Like Joe Ironside - Hursty turned him down when he played well for us at a pre season friendly at Harrogate
He didn’t play well for us, he looked useless. Let’s not pretend otherwise.
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He didn’t play well for us, he looked useless. Let’s not pretend otherwise.
Actually he did play well and the other triallist (whose name I forget - began with C - ended up playing for Leyton Orient) was poor
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https://gtfc.co.uk/hutchinson-becomes-head-of-recruitment-analysis/This is what I’m remembering - is it all Paul’s fault for listening or having to listen
I don't suppose many will agree with your post but it is a very valid question. No doubt we will be poring over the data as to why it hasn't worked out so far, and looking at ways to improve things in the future... The only signing we made that could possibly be described as left field is Conteh, but there are so many moving parts in any transfer, the make up of the squad and how they perform in given situations with different managers I think appointments like this just muddy the waters. I'm sure Hurst had the final say but he has signed a lot better players than these in previous seasons and he must have felt some pressure to make this blokes salary worthwhile.
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Goodbye Hurst go and cup your ear to some other fans. The most boring football ever at BP
Some of them are on the pitch cupping us ears, they think it's all over, it is now. He can cup his P45 to his ear at last.
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I don't suppose many will agree with your post but it is a very valid question.
No doubt we will be poring over the data as to why it hasn't worked out so far, and looking at ways to improve things in the future...
The only signing we made that could possibly be described as left field is Conteh, but there are so many moving parts in any transfer, the make up of the squad and how they perform in given situations with different managers I think appointments like this just muddy the waters. I'm sure Hurst had the final say but he has signed a lot better players than these in previous seasons and he must have felt some pressure to make this blokes salary worthwhile.
The best signing has been conteh and to be fair Hurst did give the recruitment guy a lot of credit for that one. In fact he even said after he's been signed and the reaction wa sso positive that he didn't know why that was the case, which struck me as a bit odd if he had identified him. Within a short period it was obvious conteh had a lot of ability, personally I suspect conteh was a signing driven by the recruitment guy rather than Hurst, but it was one that looks good. Is it the case that hursts signings worked out less well (vernam being an obvious one as he was trying to recruit him before we got a recruitment guy)? Or was it the recruitment guys influenced signings didn't weave together well as a team?
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Last sentence —previously when I questioning the signings - they were all Hursts - but now that may not have been the case?
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The best signing has been conteh and to be fair Hurst did give the recruitment guy a lot of credit for that one. In fact he even said after he's been signed and the reaction wa sso positive that he didn't know why that was the case, which struck me as a bit odd if he had identified him.
Within a short period it was obvious conteh had a lot of ability, personally I suspect conteh was a signing driven by the recruitment guy rather than Hurst, but it was one that looks good. Is it the case that hursts signings worked out less well (vernam being an obvious one as he was trying to recruit him before we got a recruitment guy)? Or was it the recruitment guys influenced signings didn't weave together well as a team?
Conteh has done nothing good since august.
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The best signing has been conteh and to be fair Hurst did give the recruitment guy a lot of credit for that one. In fact he even said after he's been signed and the reaction wa sso positive that he didn't know why that was the case, which struck me as a bit odd if he had identified him.
Within a short period it was obvious conteh had a lot of ability, personally I suspect conteh was a signing driven by the recruitment guy rather than Hurst, but it was one that looks good. Is it the case that hursts signings worked out less well (vernam being an obvious one as he was trying to recruit him before we got a recruitment guy)? Or was it the recruitment guys influenced signings didn't weave together well as a team?
I must have a different view from my seat but for most of the time all I see from Conteh is meandering in front of the back four playing in the main short or sideways passing. Now there may be a good player there but I have yet to see what he brings to help the team defend or score goals.
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I must have a different view from my seat but for most of the time all I see from Conteh is meandering in front of the back four playing in the main short or sideways passing.
Now there may be a good player there but I have yet to see what he brings to help the team defend or score goals.
Yeah, he's just like that other midfield waster, Didier Deschamps. All he ever did was take the ball off the defence and pass it to the other midfielders. How he won a European Championship and World Cup, I will never know.
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Won't be long before he gets another job I should think. Could be an interesting future day when he's on the opposition bench.
Depends on if he gets a V good pay off. He can sit there 18 months on full salary. Takes a job and that ends so won’t be in a rush. For sure his stock is not so good if you look at the Data 😊. He is on garden leave unless there’s been agreement to give him a massive pay off. As it stand as with most sackings ( releasing the manager of his duty suddenly) the club will be in breach of employment law. A tribunal would have a field day.
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Yeah, he's just like that other midfield waster, Didier Deschamps. All he ever did was take the ball off the defence and pass it to the other midfielders. How he won a European Championship and World Cup, I will never know.
Yes that's a great comparison, if he's that good why is he playing for us and why aren't we heading for the European Championship. f'wit.
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Depends on if he gets a V good pay off.
He can sit there 18 months on full salary. Takes a job and that ends so won’t be in a rush.
For sure his stock is not so good if you look at the Data 😊.
He is on garden leave unless there’s been agreement to give him a massive pay off.
As it stand as with most sackings ( releasing the manager of his duty suddenly) the club will be in breach of employment law. A tribunal would have a field day.
Well it depends what is written into his contract, effectively he's a contractor not a permanent employee.
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I must have a different view from my seat but for most of the time all I see from Conteh is meandering in front of the back four playing in the main short or sideways passing.
Now there may be a good player there but I have yet to see what he brings to help the team defend or score goals.
I don't think he's utilised as well as he could be by us, as much down to other players as him, but surely you thought he was playing well in the first half a dozen games or so? He's definitely tailed off though. I still believe he's the player with the most potential sell on value thats been purchased by the club.
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Some of them are on the pitch cupping us ears, they think it's all over, it is now. He can cup his P45 to his ear at last.
Noddy strikes again. What an embarrassment
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