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MuddyWaters
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At the Tahgers till at least the end of the 25/26 season.

https://www.wearehullcity.co.uk/news/2023/october/06/smith-pens-new-long-term-deal/
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Really good news and thoroughly deserved.

Up there with the best loans we've had.
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He gained a lot of experience playing alongside Luke Waterfall
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Really good news and thoroughly deserved.

Up there with the best loans we've had.


Not quite for me if you’re talking best loans ever, although he was excellent, so would deserve his place if you’re talking relatively recent loans.

Which begs the question who would you have down as the best ever (if it’s not Smith) ?

Dave Beasant and Andy Todd jump out at me without thinking about it too much.


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Definitely beasent and Todd in there. But also super Clive and, when he was on loan first, Neil woods was sensational.

Honourable mention to Nigel jemson as well.


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Definitely beasent and Todd in there. But also super Clive and, when he was on loan first, Neil woods was sensational.

Honourable mention to Nigel jemson as well.


Jemson was nowt special. I remember seeing him hit the bar from 6 yards at Oxford with the whole goal gaping.
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In the short time he was here Dean Henderson was pretty good.


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John Oster's first loan spell was incredible. Carried the team.

Not quite as good in his second but still decent.

They turned to excrement once they were permanent, but Barry Conlan and Peter Sweeney were exceptional and very impactful loans. Very, very honourable mention to Wayne Henderson at the same time too.
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Steve Kabba was brilliant


Andy todd for me, alongside Grovesy, best player I've seen in a town shirt


Really pleased for Smith, another that without him, we'd have never been promoted
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Not quite for me if you’re talking best loans ever, although he was excellent, so would deserve his place if you’re talking relatively recent loans.

Which begs the question who would you have down as the best ever (if it’s not Smith) ?

Dave Beasant and Andy Todd jump out at me without thinking about it too much.


Not the best player we've had on loan, I agree, but one of the best loans we've had in terms of length and impact.

The block he did at Wrexham for Waterfall to score, and the interception in the final to set up the equaliser were fundamental in us getting promoted, not to mention the solid partnership he had with Luke.
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Some brilliant loan players mentioned above, I'd add Patterson to the list absolutely class
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Steve Kabba was brilliant


Andy todd for me, alongside Grovesy, best player I've seen in a town shirt


Really pleased for Smith, another that without him, we'd have never been promoted


Was David Nielson a loan or short term contract ?
He was pretty good .

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Jemson was nowt special. I remember seeing him hit the bar from 6 yards at Oxford with the whole goal gaping.


For me, jemson was perfect. He took away defenders giving super Clive more of a free role.


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John Oster's first loan spell was incredible. Carried the team.

Not quite as good in his second but still decent.

They turned to excrement once they were permanent, but Barry Conlan and Peter Sweeney were exceptional and very impactful loans. Very, very honourable mention to Wayne Henderson at the same time too.


Didn’t that coincide with Richard Hughes as well who was so calm. I always think that if we’d have kept Oster and Hughes for the remainder of that season we’d have stayed up and perhaps a lot of what happened very quickly afterwards may not have!

I liked Appleton too if I am thinking of central midfield loans!
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Was David Nielson a loan or short term contract ?
He was pretty good .



On loan. We did try to sign him but he apparently was asking for crazy amounts of money to sign so he ended up at Wimbledon just before they became MK Dons and then Norwich who he ran rings around while playing for us. Apparently later on had treatment for a gambling addiction where he racked up over 200k in debt to bookies, maybe why he was asking for such a high wage.
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Not the best player we've had on loan, I agree, but one of the best loans we've had in terms of length and impact.
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Yeah fair one - that’s a good way of expressing it, I can definitely get on board with that logic.
It’s amazing how many drop from your memory too, there have been some great shouts!


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Not the best player we've had on loan, I agree, but one of the best loans we've had in terms of length and impact.

The block he did at Wrexham for Waterfall to score, and the interception in the final to set up the equaliser were fundamental in us getting promoted, not to mention the solid partnership he had with Luke.


And the challenge on Hudlin from Solihull in the final.


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Todd. End of thread.
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Todd for me made such an impact....
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Andy Todd
Steve Kabba
Isiah Rankin
Martin Paterson
Connor Townsend

All made big impacts in the time they was here on loan.
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Didn’t that coincide with Richard Hughes as well who was so calm. I always think that if we’d have kept Oster and Hughes for the remainder of that season we’d have stayed up and perhaps a lot of what happened very quickly afterwards may not have!

I liked Appleton too if I am thinking of central midfield loans!


Hughes was later in the season, think there might have been a handful of games cross-over with Oster's second loan spell.  

Said on another thread last week about how we fell off the cliff once Oster left.  But over the course of the season we had some very good players either contracted, short-term, out injured or on loan.  It was just a shame they didn't all play together for a sustained period.
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Hughes was later in the season, think there might have been a handful of games cross-over with Oster's second loan spell.  

Said on another thread last week about how we fell off the cliff once Oster left.  But over the course of the season we had some very good players either contracted, short-term, out injured or on loan.  It was just a shame they didn't all play together for a sustained period.


That’s frighteningly true when you look back at who featured at some point that season.


Coyne

McDermott     Santos     Groves     Gallimore

Oster     Pouton     Hughes     Campbell

Kabba     Boulding



We’d have been nowhere near trouble that season if we’d have been able to consistently put a side close to that out. Alas, we couldn’t. In particular, it’s a real shame Kabba and Oster only got one game together (in which they linked up to make the opening goal)


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But then the contrast is 18-year-old Darren Mansaram started nearly half the season as a lone striker, often in a midfield that lacked a real creative spark.  Just seventeen months after starting back-to-back games against very soon to be promoted to the Prem Leicester and Wolves, he was loaned out to Halifax of the Conference National.  Mansaram started both of those games up front on his own.  For Leicester he did have John Oster supporting from a bit deeper, however against Wolves he was ahead of a very defensive midfield of Chris Bolder, Richard Hughes, Paul Groves, Stuart Campbell and Michael Keane.

The lack of attacking options in the big spell between Kabba and Boulding was painful, even when they were were they were fighting a lone battle.  
Jevons was farmed out on loan, Rowan had gone off the boil, Livvo (who started nearly as many games as Mansaram) was understandably a pale shadow of his former self after his head injury, Chris Thompson didn't quite reach expectations, David Soames couldn't stay fit...

It really was a cheapo squad.  You can add Chettle, Barnard, Cooke and Colidcott to your XI but after that it's almost exclusively kids and loans.  Even Simon Ford, who played nearly all the season was 21/22.  
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Quoted from Corkyefes
Andy Todd
Steve Kabba
Isiah Rankin
Martin Paterson
Connor Townsend

All made big impacts in the time they was here on loan.


I would go along with that lot...plus Dave Beasant.
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                    Beasant
           Pond Todd Townsend
                     Pouton
              Woods Oster
     Paterson Mendonca Kabba

Bit of a weird formation but so confident with that loanee team that I've only bothered with 10 players.
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Quoted from diehardmariner
                    Beasant
           Pond Todd Townsend
                     Pouton
              Woods Oster
     Paterson Mendonca Kabba

Bit of a weird formation but so confident with that loanee team that I've only bothered with 10 players.


Stick Joe Waters in that midfield and you'd have a bloody good team there.  



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Few years before my time Les, but I'll let you have him in there.
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