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RichMariner
September 10, 2023, 4:33pm
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Just been looking back through my camera roll...

Right, firstly, I know it's frowned upon by some, and I understand that but, to be honest, I'm one of those people who sometimes (not always) gets my phone out when we win a set piece in the hope I'll capture a goal.

All I have this season is a succession of corners either going straight into the hands of the keeper, or being cleared; free kicks either not clearing the first man or drifting out for goal kicks.

I know Maher scored a cracking header from a corner last weekend and we won't win every set piece header, but we do seem (generally) weak in this area so far.


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Email Hurst straight away! It's analysis like this we've been missing under Fenty's reign!
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Honestly, you can have all the coaching badges you want but the experience of a qualified, ex forward/striker would work wonders for this squad.
All of our coaching staff are defenders. Now I'm not saying any of them are incompetent but they will know how to defend like its second nature so probably easy to impart knowledge onto our own crop if defenders.
Who gives the front line that guidance, shows them instinctively how to react, read the game, where to find the gaps, somethings you can't learn in a book, only on the shop floor.
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How do you ‘show’ someone ‘instinctively’ how to react?
Completely flawed argument this. Ex defenders with coaching qualifications and experience can’t coach strikers; who apparently are instinctive anyway.?!


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Quoted from RichMariner
Just been looking back through my camera roll...

Right, firstly, I know it's frowned upon by some, and I understand that but, to be honest, I'm one of those people who sometimes (not always) gets my phone out when we win a set piece in the hope I'll capture a goal.

All I have this season is a succession of corners either going straight into the hands of the keeper, or being cleared; free kicks either not clearing the first man or drifting out for goal kicks.

I know Maher scored a cracking header from a corner last weekend and we won't win every set piece header, but we do seem (generally) weak in this area so far.


Doesn't  this analysis forget at least one of eisas goals tho?
Plus maher had a half chance in injury time post a set piece yesterday.








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When the strikers coaching thing crops up I always think of the 97/98 team: a brilliant side led by a brilliant goalscorer - whose top scoring striker scored 8!


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The idea that having a defensive coaching is a contributing factor to the team not being attacking enough is bizarre. The best team in the land are managed by a former relatively defensive midfielder yet Alan shearer, one of the best strikers of all time was a dreadful coach.

Set pieces are an interesting concept these days anyway. I’d argue that teams that seemingly score a fair few or even play for them are often spoken about negatively. I’m sure Opta did some analysis and the higher up you go teams make positive use of set pieces even less.

I agree we could be more of a threat but I just think it’s an evolution of the game rather than some notion that it’s poor coaching.


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Quoted from chaos33
How do you ‘show’ someone ‘instinctively’ how to react?
Completely flawed argument this. Ex defenders with coaching qualifications and experience can’t coach strikers; who apparently are instinctive anyway.?!


I'm on about the ex player you male masturbation biscuit...Good god, we are weak as p!ss up front and whilst we only have ex defenders as coaches you best get used to it!..
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The idea that having a defensive coaching is a contributing factor to the team not being attacking enough is bizarre. The best team in the land are managed by a former relatively defensive midfielder yet Alan shearer, one of the best strikers of all time was a dreadful coach.

Set pieces are an interesting concept these days anyway. I’d argue that teams that seemingly score a fair few or even play for them are often spoken about negatively. I’m sure Opta did some analysis and the higher up you go teams make positive use of set pieces even less.

I agree we could be more of a threat but I just think it’s an evolution of the game rather than some notion that it’s poor coaching.


Why is it bizarre?..pep has a myriad of coaches, some of whom are attacking coaches, set piece coaches, defensive coaches, something we don't have, we have 4 ex defenders as coaches.
As an all rounder Hurst has done okay, I just think we/he needs somebody who knows how to operate at the top end of the pitch,
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As an adult (I presume), do you want to stand by calling someone a ‘w**k biscuit’ because they posted an alternative view, or are you going to edit it?


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