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Mappers
July 20, 2023, 11:53am
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It never did Harchester United's ratings or on-pitch fortunes much harm, and they would routinely lose a good portion of their playing staff to the grim reaper each summer. Even Karl Fletcher did for it in the end, though at least Wayne Burnett did at least manage to make it through unscathed, thankfully.


Have Wrexham got a Linda Block?
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Have Wrexham got a Linda Block?


She’s currently at Mansfield.

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I bet she doesn't end up in Coronation Street!


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It's certainly an interesting pre-season campaign Wrexham are having. It's easy to swipe at the whole Wrexham thing, but take a step back and it's hard not to admit that, after so many years in the non-league doldrums, the prospect of playing friendly matches against the likes of Chelsea, Manchester United and LA Galaxy in the likes of North Carolina, San Diego and Los Angeles must be pretty exciting for their fan base. For those fans with sufficient cash in their back pocket, therein lies the potential for one hell of a summer road trip. Would I fancy doing that with Town? You bet I would.

From a practical point of view though, I think you can certainly question how optimal a pre-season schedule it really. There's no doubting the commercial benefits for them, but playing virtually all of your pre-season games against vastly superior opposition, in searing heat, away from the players' families (having been flown out in economy by the club's main sponsor, no less), feels like a serious de-prioritisation of what players at this level actually need ahead of a long, mostly cold and arduous season.

As it stands, Wrexham have only signed one new player, albeit a decent one in Ben Tozer's old mate Will Boyle from Huddersfield. Whilst there's no denying that, in points terms at the very least, Wrexham are the best side to ever be promoted from non-league football, the step-up shouldn't be underestimated. This is going to be a very strong League Two, and the likes of Stockport, Bradford, Salford, MK Dons and, dare I say it, Grimsby, are going to be very different prospects to anything they faced in the National League last season. There's plenty of others, too.

Personally, I don't mind what Wrexham are doing. I think it's an interesting initiative bringing hope to a somewhat forlorn football club and community, and I think most Town fans can empathise with what Wrexham have been through over the course of the last 20 years. Yes, they are over-exposed in the media, but that's just the media doing what they do, and why wouldn't you look to take advantage of that in their position? The model they have developed is self-sustainable, at least in the short-to-medium term, and they're what most would consider a "proper" club, unlike the likes of Salford and MK Dons.

However, I do look at the business they've done so far and their pre-season preparation and wonder if they're taking things a little bit lightly. I reserve the right to wear egg on my face, but I have an inkling that they might just be in for a bit of a rude awakening...


I quite like Wrexham, the documentary is good and they are clearly a ‘proper’ club and have certainly served their time in non-league. Not sure I’d feel the same way had they beaten us in the playoffs though.

Wrexham look to have enough in their existing squad to challenge next year. The big problem is how they fit new players into their squad, I think they are already over the squad size for the league by a couple of players?

Most of the players they have bought are 25+, on long term contracts and I’d guess are on very good money for this level. I’d imagine it will be difficult to move these players on, especially if they are enjoying being part of the documentary.

The other issue is how they keep the balance in the squad. Say they get the opportunity to bring in a Championship level striker (on Championship wages), how does this fit with Mullin? Will the other players want wage parity? It was clear from the documentary some of the players where unhappy with the wages being paid to the new recruits, that’s fine when it’s fringe players who are unhappy but a different story when its the established players.

I’d imagine this will only get worse if they get promoted next year as they’ll need to completely rebuild their team to compete at League One level.


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I see the mighty Wrexham lost 5-0 to Chelsea in their pre-season friendly in the US.

Makes our 7-1 defeat at Stamford Bridge not look too bad.


It was a very young Chelsea team too with their average starting XI age just over 19.


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I'd have taken 7-1 if it meant we went there and actually tried to play rather than that ridiculous man-to-man plan Jolley came up with, which I reckon on reflection was the only tactic he knew.

I remember getting excited seeing this video when he was first appointed, I thought it showed someone with a lot of tactical maturity and hoped that would transfer into League Two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKUq0-FtNMs&ab_channel=TheCoaches%27Voice


Totally agree. It was shown to be ridiculous within a few minutes as they tore us apart with good movement and better athleticism. Might have worked in the Swedish top division where the difference between the players isn't too vast and, dare I say it, even the best players are still pretty shite. But to have your entire team of L2 players go man to man against a top Premier league team was incredibly naive and showed little, if any, tactical understanding. Might work to have one or two of the opposition man marked to nullify their individual threat but it was a disaster. No wonder he's now in the Spanish 4th division
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Is that where he is now? Christ!

Crazy to think that five years ago most of us thought he was the saviour because he was answering a few calls about season tickets in the summer.

He performed a miracle in 2018 to keep us up, I can't take that away from him.  I honestly thought we were gone when we capitulated away at Coventry, I couldn't see any way back from that.  It was a pretty poor group of players too but he somehow got a tune out of them and a combination of Harry Cardwell falling over, Mitch Rose having nerves of steal and a decentish throw was enough to keep us up.  Even JJ Hooper found something that resembled form!  

But looking back on reflection, his spell was utterly drab.  What made it worse for me was that he would seem to build up his courage to attack teams, then at the first sign of any vulnerability he would revert to type and solely focus on the opposition.  
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Wrexham will also try and increase their American fan base with high profile matches in the USA.
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Wrexham will also try and increase their American fan base with high profile matches in the USA.


Feature on Talksport about them on Wednesday and by all accounts they are really picking up loads of attention in USA through this Netflix series and have sold 35,000 shirts following promotion (clearly have different suppliers to us!!!).

Re-signing of players the guy acknowledged that basically they had signed L1 players for their conference campaign so there was less pressing on them to undertake any significant team building. Looks like they are destined for the Championship in a quicker timescale than even Philip Day forecast for town!!

Still eleven v eleven so fancy for a nice away win in September.
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