Harry Clifton

Talking to two Mansfield Town fans this afternoon and apparently Harry Clifton was close to signing for the Stags during the final few hours of the January transfer window, deal fell through because we lost out on someone from Lincoln hence we wouldn't let Harry go

They are of the opinion there is an agreement in place where Clifton signs for Mansfield in the summer for £360,000 plus add-ons

Don't shoot me, just passing on what i was told earlier

I can't see that Mansfield would pay anything like that really.

Complete and utter horse sh#t, I’d say.

Quoted from Heisenberg

Complete and utter horse sh#t, I’d say.

I agree and told them that, if he leaves he's better than Mansfield imo

He's worth north of 750k surely in the current climate .
Contract needs to be extended , if the right offer comes in then it will have to be right for Harry and the club .

I think that Mansfield rumour is poppycock quite frankly .

Mansfield wouldn't be spending 350k on a L2 midfielder. Utter balderdash.

As i said don't shoot the messenger, I agree with all of the above but they are adamant he was due to sign in Jan but that fell through when someone we were in for fell through at the last minute and an agreement is in place for a summer move

"Cack poo " to me  "Town " would be covering all their bases to keep him at BP  unless  "Town"  board/ CEO/ owners have altenative  chess game moves...UTM  "He's one of our own!"  .. Please keep him at "Town".

If anyone offers us £360k for him I’ll drive him there myself

He is worth a lot more than that . But he is not worth a fortune . My guess is he will be here next season

Quoted from Simon

Talking to two Mansfield Town fans this afternoon and apparently Harry Clifton was close to signing for the Stags during the final few hours of the January transfer window, deal fell through because we lost out on someone from Lincoln hence we wouldn't let Harry go

They are of the opinion there is an agreement in place where Clifton signs for Mansfield in the summer for £360,000 plus add-ons

Don't shoot me, just passing on what i was told earlier

If they offer to swop their magic beans for your cow I would definitely refuse.

I've kind of convinced myself since yesterday that Hurst has doubts about Clifton. It's based off nothing other than his interview yesterday when he said the performance made his decision easy on a lot of players. But he is a Hurst type player, so my obvious nonsense thoughts are probably just nonsense.

Quoted from denni266

He is worth a lot more than that . But he is not worth a fortune . My guess is he will be here next season

Yes with you  on this UTM..!!

Quoted from Simon

Talking to two Mansfield Town fans this afternoon and apparently Harry Clifton was close to signing for the Stags during the final few hours of the January transfer window, deal fell through because we lost out on someone from Lincoln hence we wouldn't let Harry go

They are of the opinion there is an agreement in place where Clifton signs for Mansfield in the summer for £360,000 plus add-ons

Don't shoot me, just passing on what i was told earlier

You also said that Wacca was potentially Dave Smith.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

You also said that Wacca was potentially Dave Smith.

Wacca could be anyone of many with an axe to grind  

As i said above, dont shoot the messenger i did say there is no chance he's going there but they are 100% its already a done deal

He's better than a move to Mansfield

To be fair to the OP on this one, I have it on good authority that there is a glue sniffing epidemic currently afoot in Mansfield.

Quoted from denni266

He is worth a lot more than that .

Yeah not on this planet. He’s not worth £360k even if you included his house.

Quoted from Simon

Talking to two Mansfield Town fans this afternoon and apparently Harry Clifton was close to signing for the Stags during the final few hours of the January transfer window, deal fell through because we lost out on someone from Lincoln hence we wouldn't let Harry go

They are of the opinion there is an agreement in place where Clifton signs for Mansfield in the summer for £360,000 plus add-ons

Don't shoot me, just passing on what i was told earlier

Interesting.  I have heard that the person we lost out to from Lincoln at the last minute of the January window was Charles Vernam and that he is nailed on to sign for us this summer.

I like Harry we all like Harry but ffs the reality he’s very limited in the technical side of the game and at 25 this summer will that improve ? I always hoped he would take games by the scruff of the neck and dominant the midfield and almost be are stevie G type player. He works hard is the perfect professional chips in with some goals which is great but if anyone is offering the money quoted snap their hands off I say and let’s wish him good luck. My thoughts are he will end up being a squad player at somewhere like Wednesday / Barnsley and hopefully making a good living off the Yorkie twits 😂

I'd be amazed if PH/1878 sold him to another L2 club. If Harry goes itll be to League 1

I would like to see Harry move on.

Not because I don't rate him, but I think he deserves a chance to better himself.

Quoted from cannylad65

I would like to see Harry move on.

Not because I don't rate him, but I think he deserves a chance to better himself.

I agree as long as it is  an upward move and not one sideways , if it was financially beneficial to both him ,the club and staying relatively local is important to him i suspect .

He is a Town fan for life which is the main thing , hopefully when he does eventually leave he is back in the stands as regularly as he can be .

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

I like Harry we all like Harry but ffs the reality he’s very limited in the technical side of the game and at 25 this summer will that improve ? I always hoped he would take games by the scruff of the neck and dominant the midfield and almost be are stevie G type player. He works hard is the perfect professional chips in with some goals which is great but if anyone is offering the money quoted snap their hands off I say and let’s wish him good luck. My thoughts are he will end up being a squad player at somewhere like Wednesday / Barnsley and hopefully making a good living off the Yorkie twits 😂

Good post. I feel maybe the sentimental side of things can get in the way as well amongst fans me included .A home grown player that has the right mindsight and loves playing for his club and feeds of that energy. Its as if for some hes living out our childhood dreams eg you want to play for your hometown football club and do really well for them and then  more than likely move on to pastures new where the millions are. I note in the FA  Brighton v Grimsby  game  the tv pundits picked up on this as well and were calling Harry Clifton  Mr Grimsby.

Quoted from ska face

If anyone offers us £360k for him I’ll drive him there myself

You are odd. You seem happy to get rid of our most effective midfielder this year, but want to base our team around our most ineffective midfielder this year.

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

You are odd. You seem happy to get rid of our most effective midfielder this year, but want to base our team around our most ineffective midfielder this year.

Don’t think so. Everyone has a price and the fact that Harry is our player of the season probably indicates how average we are.

By the way, that’s not a comment on Harry, more of a comment on the rest.

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

You are odd. You seem happy to get rid of our most effective midfielder this year, but want to base our team around our most ineffective midfielder this year.

I don’t know who you are, but you can’t tell me anyone in this squad is worth £360k.

Quoted from ska face

I don’t know who you are, but you can’t tell me anyone in this squad is worth £360k.

Aye. Clifton has a year remaining on his contract, and would be daft to sign an extension at this moment in time. He’s a reliable, incredibly fit, goal scoring, box-to-box midfielder with over 200 senior games under his belt at the age of 24, but we have to be realistic about what a player like that is worth at this level.

Realistically, I would think an offer with an up-front value of between £125k and £175k would secure his services.

Quoted from Poojah

Aye. Clifton has a year remaining on his contract, and would be daft to sign an extension at this moment in time. He’s a reliable, incredibly fit, goal scoring, box-to-box midfielder with over 200 senior games under his belt at the age of 24, but we have to be realistic about what a player like that is worth at this level.

Realistically, I would think an offer with an up-front value of between £125k and £175k would secure his services.

Maybe my valuation of 750k was a bit high .

I suppose the only players that actually go for fees of high value down in league 2 / NL are ones that score a lot up top .

It shows you how important our cup run was , as we are realistically never likely to raise that sort of money from player sales in the short term .

Quoted from Poojah

Aye. Clifton has a year remaining on his contract, and would be daft to sign an extension at this moment in time. He’s a reliable, incredibly fit, goal scoring, box-to-box midfielder with over 200 senior games under his belt at the age of 24, but we have to be realistic about what a player like that is worth at this level.

Realistically, I would think an offer with an up-front value of between £125k and £175k would secure his services.

I think the biggest factor influencing fees that we’ll get nowadays is potential. How much did we get for Pollock, £250k? About £300k for McAtee, £160k for Grist - all players who might be able to recoup the fee with a couple of years of development. I just can’t see how Clifton could be worth £400k in a couple of years, or how he improves a team to the extent it makes that fee worthwhile.

Pollock’s doing really well up at Aberdeen at the minute by the way. 5 clean sheets on the bounce, beat Rangers Saturday and won 8 in 10 since he joined in Jan. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him move up there on a permanent deal in the summer.

And so it begins. A true Fishy-esque start to the summer rumours, with a mad 360k plus add-ons shout for Clifton to Mansfield. Roll on the next few months.

The rumour I heard was Sheffield Wednesday. We will see.

I hear loads of rumours at work, in the pub, on here, and about 1 in 10 have any legs, so by that reckoning, it has about a 10 per cent chance of having any substance.

We know other teams covet Harry and tried to prise him away last summer, but he signed a new deal and I doubt he'd have his head turned by Mansfield.

Doesn't mean he wouldn't go if a team with more clout wanted him but I can't see what Mansfield could offer him that we can't, unless it's a lot more money and he just fancies a change of scenery.

That does seem a lot for a L2 midfielder going to another L2 club.

Mansfield don't look to have spent big money on signings but they do have a number of players signed in the last year with undisclosed fees but even then I doubt if Callum Johnson arrived from Ross County on a wave of cash.

I also wonder why Harry would want to go there (unless they're offering better wages), it's hardly a major step forward in his career.

Quoted from Mappers

Maybe my valuation of 750k was a bit high .

I suppose the only players that actually go for fees of high value down in league 2 / NL are ones that score a lot up top .

It shows you how important our cup run was , as we are realistically never likely to raise that sort of money from player sales in the short term .

£360k was already a bit high honestly lol. Wrexham paid 300k to get Ollie Palmer from two leagues above them and less than that for the likes of Tozer also from League One. Harry has his attributes and everybody loves him because he's a local lad that works hard for the team but people are dreaming if they think he's commanding such high fees. There is nothing special about him beyond his fitness and being a decent box to box midfielder who can defend along with attack. He's not a big time goal scorer who is going to bag goals and create just as many, he's not a set piece specialist that scores and creates, he's not a household name that will sell shirts, etc.

Nothing like a good rumour I suspect the talk of HC leaving is nothing like a good rumour,

I remember in the late 70's/early 80's when the late great Kev Moore was rumoured to be joining Liverpool, that one seemed to stick around for ages.

I like him as a local player which is always good but i wouldn't be disappointed if he left.
We need a much better midfield come next season.

Great attitude and brilliant work rate but like Hurst said a couple of years ago he doesnt need 11 dogs chasing the ball.

The good thing about Harry is that he can play several roles and will always give 100%. Every club needs a player like this. I couldn't really say what his best role is but he certainly has the energy for a ' box to box' midfielder and he does have an eye for goal.

If he did leave then good for him.  His workrate, versatility and consistency would only then be fully appreciated.

Should be nailed on for our player of the season. A new and improved contract please.

Have we town fans got so used to substandard standards?

Surely everyone should be saying lets aim higher, glad sir alan didnt have this attitude

Quoted from monkeyboy

Have we town fans got so used to substandard standards?

Surely everyone should be saying lets aim higher, glad sir alan didnt have this attitude

Are you implying that Harry Clifton is ' sub- standard'? He is certainly good enough for this league and the one above.

Quoted from rancido

Are you implying that Harry Clifton is ' sub- standard'? He is certainly good enough for this league and the one above.

Not really Harry but a large percentage of the squad isnt great lets face it. time will tell if harry can cut it in league one though.

Never mind the fee, as if Clifton is going to leave for Mansfield when he's got bigger and better clubs interested in him!

Quoted from monkeyboy

Not really Harry but a large percentage of the squad isnt great lets face it. time will tell if harry can cut it in league one though.

A win tonight all but guarantees our highest league finish since 2006 - 17 years ago. Standards have undeniably been low, but that’s not the fault of those currently at the wheel and there are tangible signs of improvement.

We will challenge for promotion next season, I am in no doubt about that.

Quoted from Poojah

A win tonight all but guarantees our highest league finish since 2006 - 17 years ago. Standards have undeniably been low, but that’s not the fault of those currently at the wheel and there are tangible signs of improvement.

We will challenge for promotion next season, I am in no doubt about that.

Now THAT is a bold statement, young man!

Quoted from Rick12

Good post. I feel maybe the sentimental side of things can get in the way as well amongst fans me included .A home grown player that has the right mindsight and loves playing for his club and feeds of that energy. Its as if for some hes living out our childhood dreams eg you want to play for your hometown football club and do really well for them and then  more than likely move on to pastures new where the millions are. I note in the FA  Brighton v Grimsby  game  the tv pundits picked up on this as well and were calling Harry Clifton  Mr Grimsby.

Decent post supporting a very good post. Harry’s decent but let’s be honest how often have town bossed the midfield battles this year particularly in home games? I acknowledge he’s only one part of that but IMO he’s a decent L2 player whose main qualities are versatility and stamina but lacks a quality first touch and is limited in his range of passing. Can’t see Wednesday being interested in him but Mansfield would probably be interested but not at the price quoted.

Happy if he stays and as others have said if he goes good luck for his future and we hopefully, sign a better replacement which applies to anyone who leaves as we want to avoid a Nolan being replaced with a Berrett scenario.

Quoted from Heisenberg

Now THAT is a bold statement, young man!

That this is a game of unpredictability and opinions is why love it, but I don’t feel like that is that bold a statement. At the start of this season I predicted we would finish 10th before really kicking on and having a proper go at promotion the following year. I think 10th might just be a smidge beyond us, but we’ll be there or thereabouts and I have no reason to doubt the second half of my prediction.

A recent table on Experimental 361 had us 4th on xG - this has been a season where we have lost out in the margins; Saturday being another fine example of this:


Too many times we have created the better chances in games and not taken advantage. It’s something that needs fixing, and I believe we will. A clinical, physical striker and a central midfielder with quality and experience  above this level, coupled with incremental improvements elsewhere will make a massive difference to outcomes in games next season. I have never been so sure of anything.

Top 7 next season. Minimum. You heard it here first.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Happy if he stays and as others have said if he goes good luck for his future

From the snippets I've read on Harry via fans I like the extra training he's been doing. I know another lad who has dreams of making it  professionally and he goes out of his way to train extra and  the like including working on his weaker foot with the ball and  cardiovascular training. It's this attitude which I genuinely love. As sometimes happens in football some youngsters have the ability but not necessarily the sacrifice to want to achieve their potential.

Quoted from Rick12

From the snippets I've read on Harry via fans I like the extra training he's been doing. I know another lad who has dreams of making it  professionally and he goes out of his way to train extra and  the like including working on his weaker foot with the ball and  cardiovascular training. It's this attitude which I genuinely love. As sometimes happens in football some youngsters have the ability but not necessarily the sacrifice to want to achieve their potential.

Love him or hate him, this was the approach David Beckham had as a youth. Always stayed after training finished and continued practicing crossing and accurate passing.

What everyone omits to mention is that Harry is improving year  on year.He has moved up a league, but has scored more goals than ever, and has been an even more effective player this season

Quoted from rancido

Love him or hate him, this was the approach David Beckham had as a youth. Always stayed after training finished and continued practicing crossing and accurate passing.

When you see old footage of Beckham some of his freekicks/passing was  quality . Nice to read though what you have said about him in the above . Good from his perspective that  he went onto play for Real Madrid a club with richer European pedigree than Manchester United and one which he said was the only club he would of left Manchester for. Always pleasing to see when effort is rewarded.

Quoted from monkeyboy

Have we town fans got so used to substandard standards?

Surely everyone should be saying lets aim higher, glad sir alan didnt have this attitude

But he hired plenty of substandard players. His own son was well below standard but he insisted on playing him every week lol. With time people tend to remember only the good things and forget the bad but there was always plenty of criticism of Buckley's approach to recruitment. His main requirement seemed to be players no more than 5 inches taller than him. Buckley also destroyed the confidence of one of our more promising youngsters in his third spell in Peter Bore who had a promising start to the season being one of the few bright sparks who got immediately dropped when Buckley took charge because he decided he didn't like him, my source on this is a family member who went to school with and was friends with a lot of youth players coming up to the first team in that era. Apparently the story goes that when Buckley arrived Pete introduced himself as "Peter Bore, striker" and Buckley had a face of thunder saying "we'll see about that won't we". Apparently Buckley took his introduction as ego and decided to knock him down a peg by not playing him and destroying his love of football. Newell even tried reinventing him and bringing him back but the damage was pretty much done by then.

Buckley did many good things but he wasn't a perfect messiah by any stretch of the imagination.  

I know this thread is about Harry but I couldn't help it when I read this.

Quoted from Poojah

That this is a game of unpredictability and opinions is why love it, but I don’t feel like that is that bold a statement. At the start of this season I predicted we would finish 10th before really kicking on and having a proper go at promotion the following year. I think 10th might just be a smidge beyond us, but we’ll be there or thereabouts and I have no reason to doubt the second half of my prediction.

A recent table on Experimental 361 had us 4th on xG - this has been a season where we have lost out in the margins; Saturday being another fine example of this:


Too many times we have created the better chances in games and not taken advantage. It’s something that needs fixing, and I believe we will. A clinical, physical striker and a central midfielder with quality and experience  above this level, coupled with incremental improvements elsewhere will make a massive difference to outcomes in games next season. I have never been so sure of anything.

Top 7 next season. Minimum. You heard it here first.

Completely agree, a sprinkling of quality makes this team a play off contender at the very least.

Same pre season as everyone else. I expect to see some quality forward players in and for us to retain the quality we have at this level.

Quoted from Rick12

Good from his perspective that  he went onto play for Real Madrid a club with richer European pedigree than Manchester United and one which he said was the only club he would of left Manchester for.

It did help that Real offered him vast, enormous, bucket fulls of cash, along with the opportunity to push his profile even more internationally, thereby giving him even more earning power.

Don't get me wrong, he was a really good player, but the whole, "I would only have left MU for 'X' " is just marketing guff. He earned a fortune at LA Galaxy and didn't go there for entirely footballing reasons and his spells in Italy and France were there to keep his profile high as well as keep his career going.

Sheffield Wednesday bound...

Quoted from Maringer

It did help that Real offered him vast, enormous, bucket fulls of cash, along with the opportunity to push his profile even more internationally, thereby giving him even more earning power.

I agree earnt handsomely at Real Madrid but the pressure Beckham was under was  high especially as it was the galactico era (Figo,Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima . Raul, Roberto Carlos, Zidane) pushed by the president Florentino Perez and his idea of trying to buy the best players in the world.Scrutiny at that club is immense and probably more so than at Manchester United. They have two daily national football papers out there (Marca and AS)just on Real Madrid where everything about the club is assessed.

Standards at some of the top clubs are very high and they wont stand for some of the antics by some players in the lower leagues here eg heavy drinking culture which we have seen by some players at Grimsby in the past . I note for one Real Madrid were interested in signing Neymar but didnt due to scouting reports indicating he liked the nightlife too much and from a similar angle why Barcelona got rid of Ronaldinho after a initial exemplary two seasons .His love of nightlife and degradation in his attitude to training meant standards weren't kept .

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Sheffield Wednesday bound...

can i refer you to the ska face transfer thread I've just put up??? are you willing to risk it?

Surely Harry is just the sort of player we do want to move on upwards. Isn't the plan to develop players, sell them for a profit and reinvest the money into the club? If that model is to work then we will have to get used to selling our better players for longer term gain.

If we get a reasonably good offer whilst he is under contract we should take it.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Surely Harry is just the sort of player we do want to move on upwards. Isn't the plan to develop players, sell them for a profit and reinvest the money into the club? If that model is to work then we will have to get used to selling our better players for longer term gain.

If we get a reasonably good offer whilst he is under contract we should take it.

Agreeing with you again Lew!
N after Harry we could have Khouri, Braithwaite etc etc

Quoted from 123614

Interesting.  I have heard that the person we lost out to from Lincoln at the last minute of the January window was Charles Vernam and that he is nailed on to sign for us this summer.

I hope not, need better than Verman next season, if we want to improve next season.

Quoted from forza ivano

can i refer you to the ska face transfer thread I've just put up??? are you willing to risk it?

I certainly am....already had a little dabble on there..

Burnsy on RH says Harry will get an increased offer on his contract.

I hope this is true as it would be good to tie him down for 2/3 years.

Quoted from DB

Burnsy on RH says Harry will get an increased offer on his contract.

I hope this is true as it would be good to tie him down for 2/3 years.

Clearly deserves it

Quoted from DB

Burnsy on RH says Harry will get an increased offer on his contract.

I hope this is true as it would be good to tie him down for 2/3 years.

Good news, he’s growing into a good player at this level and if we can get 2 or 3 better players than what we have in mid field around him then he’ll improve even more.

Khouri is going places.... slowly, slowly... if Harry does leave ( I hope not ) this lad will fill his boots within 12-18months.... I see a great future for this boy...

If he's name player of the year (he definitely should be). When is the last time our player of the year came through the Youth set up?

Bennett? Did he win it? Would he count having been signed as a YT at 16?

Quoted from gary_elton

Khouri is going places.... slowly, slowly... if Harry does leave ( I hope not ) this lad will fill his boots within 12-18months.... I see a great future for this boy...

How long is Khouri under contract for ?

I would suggest getting him on a long term deal is almost as high a priority as Harry .

Quoted from Kris2

But he hired plenty of substandard players. His own son was well below standard but he insisted on playing him every week lol..

Is that the same Adam Buckley who played about a dozen games for Town? Hardly playing him every week is it?   Undermines your point a bit, sorry.

Quoted from ex-merseymariner

Is that the same Adam Buckley who played about a dozen games for Town? Hardly playing him every week is it?   Undermines your point a bit, sorry.

He wasn't the best technically gifted player we have ever had on the books but he couldn't half cross a ball into the box

Quoted from Simon

He wasn't the best technically gifted player we have ever had on the books but he couldn't half cross a ball into the box

Adam 'Magpie' Buckley.

Quoted from Simon

He wasn't the best technically gifted player we have ever had on the books but he couldn't half cross a ball into the box

His cross field passes were very Beckham esk

Could be back on this one, player exchange including a young left back coming here until the end of the season

Way Harry’s been this season, Id be amazed

Quoted from Hagrid

Way Harry’s been this season, Id be amazed

IF a move did break down in the summer and Harry wanted that move could that be why we are not seeing the best from Clifton this season

2pm will tell, if he's in the squad he's here until the summer if he's out good luck to the lad

Plays 250+ games for his home town team and gets zero respect from a lot of the fanbase because he's having a poor season in struggling side?
Harry's passing is poor but when he isn't in the side we miss his engine and workrate. Personally I hope he stays and we get him back out wide he's far better for the team out there than anything else in the squad.

Knowing Harry's family personally, he's turned down multiple moves from higher up and which would of benefitted him significantly financially he's had the chance and not kicked up a fuss. The lad has played absolutely everywhere he's been told without an attitude or arrogance problem. Had an absolute belter of a year for us last year and the one time that he's gone through abit of a steady patch we are ready to turn our back on him?

Whatever happened to one of our own?  

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Knowing Harry's family personally, he's turned down multiple moves from higher up and which would of benefitted him significantly financially he's had the chance and not kicked up a fuss. The lad has played absolutely everywhere he's been told without an attitude or arrogance problem. Had an absolute belter of a year for us last year and the one time that he's gone through abit of a steady patch we are ready to turn our back on him?

Whatever happened to one of our own?  

Who wanted him ?

If it was Wednesday who was after him, their manager at the start of the pre season has moved on to Huddersfield who are reportedly looking to strengthen their squad….

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Knowing Harry's family personally, he's turned down multiple moves from higher up and which would of benefitted him significantly financially he's had the chance and not kicked up a fuss. The lad has played absolutely everywhere he's been told without an attitude or arrogance problem. Had an absolute belter of a year for us last year and the one time that he's gone through abit of a steady patch we are ready to turn our back on him?

Whatever happened to one of our own?  

Just because he is a Grimsby lad doesn't mean he is a shoe in for a place in the team, regardless where he comes from, if he's not cutting it, then he won't get selected.

Quoted from 123614

Just because he is a Grimsby lad doesn't mean he is a shoe in for a place in the team, regardless where he comes from, if he's not cutting it, then he won't get selected.

Except that two successive managers make him one of the first names on the team sheet. I’ll bow to their better judgement.

The Mikey The Imp Twitter is a bullshit account. Said in the summer Amos was going to Oldham, Liam O’Neil was signing for us, Otis Khan was moving to Barrow and that we were set to announce Kyran Lofthouse last week (who went to MK).

Harry has been and is an amazing servant for this club. You couldn't ask for a better attitude and his work-rate is second to none. However, I do think he's better out wide as he hasn't got the ability on the ball to play central midfield consistently well, particularly in a possession based style of play. I also don't think he's anywhere near Championship standard. He's average/slightly below average in technical terms for a L2 midfielder, made up for by his physicality and attitude. But he's miles off the standard of a Championship player.

Watch the documentary to see what makes Harry tick. Watched it last night and for me my respect for him grew. I have been  critical of him at times but listening to his words, his emotions and his recent experiences hit home.

Lots of words and interviews in the documentary  but his and probably Dave Moores were the standouts for me.

Two of our own.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Except that two successive managers make him one of the first names on the team sheet. I’ll bow to their better judgement.

Not sure what your point is in regard to what I actually said in my post.  

Quoted from mariner91

Harry has been and is an amazing servant for this club. You couldn't ask for a better attitude and his work-rate is second to none. However, I do think he's better out wide as he hasn't got the ability on the ball to play central midfield consistently well, particularly in a possession based style of play. I also don't think he's anywhere near Championship standard. He's average/slightly below average in technical terms for a L2 midfielder, made up for by his physicality and attitude. But he's miles off the standard of a Championship player.

Pretty fair assessment imo

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Knowing Harry's family personally, he's turned down multiple moves from higher up and which would of benefitted him significantly financially he's had the chance and not kicked up a fuss. The lad has played absolutely everywhere he's been told without an attitude or arrogance problem. Had an absolute belter of a year for us last year and the one time that he's gone through abit of a steady patch we are ready to turn our back on him?

Whatever happened to one of our own?  

Whose turning their back on him?    The manager has to pick the best team as they see it. It's a meritocracy, and nobody has a free pass.

The fans should be, and are proud of Harry, and he is one of our own however this is not a Junior School where you get Gold Stars just for turning up. I don't think Harry would want it any other way.

Quoted from GrimPol

Whose turning their back on him?    The manager has to pick the best team as they see it. It's a meritocracy, and nobody has a free pass.

The fans should be, and are proud of Harry, but this is not a Junior School where you get Gold Stars just for turning up.

As bad as he's been this season, so has everyone else. He offers something none of the others do in the fact that you can count on him for 90 minutes to cover every blade of grass. He offers a lot of versatility to which was demonstrated at MK Dons, another reason he's probably in the team as it gives you better options for who you can name on the bench.

Harry plays today so all the people who have criticised him are proved wrong. DA, like PH, must think highly of him as do most on here.

Why the hell do we tell people to get on and achieve things in this country and when they do, someone is always waiting to knock em down.

Quoted from DB

Harry plays today so all the people who have criticised him are proved wrong. DA, like PH, must think highly of him as do most on here.

Why the hell do we tell people to get on and achieve things in this country and when they do, someone is always waiting to knock em down.

Well, I did not criticise him in my post, but as many others have said, he has not had a good season so far.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

As bad as he's been this season, so has everyone else. He offers something none of the others do in the fact that you can count on him for 90 minutes to cover every blade of grass. He offers a lot of versatility to which was demonstrated at MK Dons, another reason he's probably in the team as it gives you better options for who you can name on the bench.

Can't argue with that. However, there must be a position he is best at and hence alloted.

Had a great game today
One of our own

Quoted from TAGG

Had a great game today
One of our own

I can't agree. He scores the sitter to make it 3-0 and we comfortably win the game.

Quoted from Plankton

I can't agree. He scores the sitter to make it 3-0 and we comfortably win the game.

Buffoon

I wouldn't say he had a great game, decent maybe.

Quoted from ska face

Yeah not on this planet. He’s not worth £360k even if you included his house.

Quality !

Quoted from Plankton

I can't agree. He scores the sitter to make it 3-0 and we comfortably win the game.

Seen better players than him miss those chances. It wasn't the greatest ball into him on the one viewing I had at the game. Think the pass was a bit bobbly and didn't run true, though I may be wrong if I get to see it again. The goal he did score was a much harder chance on his weaker foot and he buried it when I didn't think he would.

Can't we just accept that successive managers pick him with regularity, so he clearly has something that has taken him to 250+ games for us, and is an almost ever present starter.