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But surely that disadvantages the team if player is compulsory taken off for an assessment? A temporary substitute satisfies that and if the injured player is deemed fit to carry on then he can return. There has to be some safeguard to stop sham injuries but help recognise the genuine ones. If the FA want to prevent sham injuries then all they have to do is take a player off for 5 mins for proper recovery if a physio is needed on the pitch.
Players have been getting injured for as long as the game has been played. Substitutes were introduced in case of injures , you can’t have a temporary sub while you make your mind up if the player is injured enough to substitute. The player is either injured or he isn’t , players have always been asked to leave the pitch to have their treatment not to stop the game
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Players have been getting injured for as long as the game has been played. Substitutes were introduced in case of injures , you can’t have a temporary sub while you make your mind up if the player is injured enough to substitute. The player is either injured or he isn’t , players have always been asked to leave the pitch to have their treatment not to stop the game
I agree but the FA have made a distinction with head injuries and refs have to stop play. The whole situation about injuries need looking into to stop the gamesmanship.
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Temporary subs waste a lot more time. I'd like to see the 4th. official stop the clock like they do in rugby. It starts again when play restarts. The final whistle goes when the ball goes out of play so a team loosing can keep the ball as long as they like, when the winning side get it just put it in the stand. It takes the disision away from the ref and players know that going down injured doesn't waste any time.
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What was wrong with the old rule? Surely it was far better when a head injury was treated as per all other injuries. Just admit defeat and switch it back. If it's deemed bad enough one of the teams will kick the ball out. People weren't dying of head injuries a few seasons ago.
Players have been dying from head injuries sustained in football for years. Former footballers are approximately 3.5 times more likely to have dementia than the general male population. Avoiding head injuries and managed returns to training and matches after suffering a head injury are part of the solution.
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But goalkeepers feigning cramp is perfectly acceptable
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But goalkeepers feigning cramp is perfectly acceptable
Like any injury, you will never know if it's genuine or not. The difference with Crocombe, if that is who you are referring to, is that no other keepers have twigged on to it before.
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Players have been dying from head injuries sustained in football for years. Former footballers are approximately 3.5 times more likely to have dementia than the general male population. Avoiding head injuries and managed returns to training and matches after suffering a head injury are part of the solution.
Yeah so there shouldn’t be any problems with then leaving the pitch and getting the best medical attention then should there ? Any player that has a head injury or suspected head injury should leave the pitch and get checked out . Like I said the number of stoppages with play acting would drastically reduce and the players welfare is being taken care of
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I remember Pat Partridge the referee going down after the ball landed on him during a game in the 70's. Still can hear that cheer from the Pontoon!
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I don't think there's a simple solution to this unfortunately. You need to assume each head injury is serious, even if you're 90% sure it's play-acting. And you can't punish the team if one of their players is genuinely injured by forcing them to play either with 10 players, or a sub who will likely be thrown in cold.
The lad who got hurt in the first minute... as someone else has already said, rolling around, bashing the turf with your fist, etc, is usually a sign they're okay. The ones that go down and don't move are usually the serious injuries.
The lad who got hurt, but didn't go down because Mansfield were on the attack... the ref could have stopped the game then. Even though he hadn't gone down, he clearly had a head injury. Obviously, once Crocombe had parried the shot and we then took possession, the player went down.
It's frustrating because that second one was cynical, and then you had our fans shouting that one of our players should go down holding his head when Mansfield were on the attack. You're relying on players being professional about this.
I think the only way you deal with this is education and trust. All players need to learn about and understand the seriousness of head injuries, and not to insult those that have been injured in this way by play-acting. They are professional footballers, so they should be professional.
Time wasting is one thing. Pretending they have serious head injuries simply to stop the game to their team's advantage is more cynical in my view.
A bit of retrospective punishment would be good, too, but it's hard to prove that someone was play-acting as head injuries aren't always visible.
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Players have been dying from head injuries sustained in football for years. Former footballers are approximately 3.5 times more likely to have dementia than the general male population. Avoiding head injuries and managed returns to training and matches after suffering a head injury are part of the solution.
What you're talking about is a different conversation though, you're talking about the long term effects of heading the ball and going up for headers across entire careers. Stopping the match when a player has gone down with a head injury isn't going to stop dementia in footballers. Players dying from single head impacts are incredibly rare in football, in the extreme circumstances when someone's life is in danger from such an impact the match will be stopped anyway as it's almost always immediately obvious.
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