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You can't punish teams for genuine head injuries because of others milking the system. I'd say all head injury stoppages will be video reviewed and subject the a potential three game bam if deemed to be playacting.
That's just over complicating things. Why not have a similar situation like the have in RU as regards a ' blood substitute'? Allow a temporary substitute while the injured player is assessed by a doctor off the pitch for a maximum of 10 mins. If the player is deemed fit to return to the field of play then fine, if not then the 'blood substitute' remains on the pitch and is classed as a full substitution. |
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That's just over complicating things. Why not have a similar situation like the have in RU as regards a ' blood substitute'? Allow a temporary substitute while the injured player is assessed by a doctor off the pitch for a maximum of 10 mins. If the player is deemed fit to return to the field of play then fine, if not then the 'blood substitute' remains on the pitch and is classed as a full substitution.
A temporary Substitution would take longer than someone play acting . By the time he’s got changed , given his name to the 4th official etc it would take 5 minutes |
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I was very worried for the Mansfield player who got hurt on the halfway line in front of the Findus today. He was kicking his legs up in the air and doing a dead fly looked like a clear case of brain damage to me…… Although he did seem to recover, within 15 seconds of standing up
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If they was made to go off for 5 mins following a head injury then the play acting would stop tomorrow.
Fans are paying good money to see a game of football not some Nancy roll around on the floor when the games going against them
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What makes me laugh is when they kick their legs about and bang the floor with their hands. I’ve been completely smashed in the chops on several occasions and concussed a few times whilst egg chasing and I can tell you that’s the last thing you do.
When they roll around like idiots it reminds of Michael Owen when was injured playing for england https://youtu.be/NyI_gXOE2bwThis what you do when it really hurts. No theatrics, you just want treatment |
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Why would it punish a team with a genuine head injury? Concussion substitutes are already a thing in the international laws of the game aren't they? If a player suffers a head injury and he is displaying symptoms of concussion then both teams get an additional substitute. So there's no risk of pressure on a player with a head injury to play on because his team has used all 5 substitutes. That's pretty fair. You don't get an extra sub if a player has a broken leg do you? It's up to the EFL to implement that law.
The real solution is simple. For a head injury you can bring on a temporary concussion substitute for X minutes (maybe 5). In that time the injured player sees an independent doctor. If he's passed fit he comes back on and the temporary sub departs. If he isn't passed fit (i.e. the doctor diagnoses concussion) the substitute becomes permanent. To stop abuse of the system the injured player has to go through a phased return to training and matches regardless of whether another doctor subsequently disputes the concussion diagnosis. And maybe the temporary sub should be unable to take throw-ins, set pieces and penalties until the change becomes permanent to avoid tactical "special teams" temporary subs.
The post I was replying to made no mention of concussion subs. It would help reduce the delays but it won't stop play being stopped and broken up. Fresh pegs for 5 minutes hardly seems a massive disincentive to stop pretending to have a head injury. The problem in Rugby wasn't players pretending to be hurt to stop play but playing on despite genuine injuries. |
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A temporary Substitution would take longer than someone play acting .
By the time he’s got changed , given his name to the 4th official etc it would take 5 minutes
A head injury should be an immediate assessment by a doctor off field. Whatever time it takes should be automatically added to the 90 minutes game time. What would be your solution to this increasing problem. Surely the players welfare should be foremost, especially head injuries and the increasing link with those and dementia. |
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A head injury should be an immediate assessment by a doctor off field. Whatever time it takes should be automatically added to the 90 minutes game time. What would be your solution to this increasing problem. Surely the players welfare should be foremost, especially head injuries and the increasing link with those and dementia.
Nobody’s asking the player with the head injury ( or faking injury ) to stay on the pitch . They should be taken off as you say and assessed but the game should go on . The manger had plenty of subs to use if he can’t be bothered to wait |
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Nobody’s asking the player with the head injury ( or faking injury ) to stay on the pitch .
They should be taken off as you say and assessed but the game should go on .
The manger had plenty of subs to use if he can’t be bothered to wait
But surely that disadvantages the team if player is compulsory taken off for an assessment? A temporary substitute satisfies that and if the injured player is deemed fit to carry on then he can return. There has to be some safeguard to stop sham injuries but help recognise the genuine ones. If the FA want to prevent sham injuries then all they have to do is take a player off for 5 mins for proper recovery if a physio is needed on the pitch. |
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What was wrong with the old rule? Surely it was far better when a head injury was treated as per all other injuries. Just admit defeat and switch it back. If it's deemed bad enough one of the teams will kick the ball out. People weren't dying of head injuries a few seasons ago.
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