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You can't punish teams for genuine head injuries because of others milking the system. I'd say all head injury stoppages will be video reviewed and subject the a potential three game bam if deemed to be playacting.
Then it just becomes an opinion as you can’t realistically remotely asses or understand if it’s legitimate or protocols have been applied. These days physios are well qualified you’d just need to trust their judgement that they’d have player welfare as a priority, generally in this day and age they tend to so that.
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You don't video evidence concussion but you could see if their was no contact and it was completely feigned. Concussion subs work pretty well in rugby but still very open to abuse.
I agree it's a problem. Multiple times this season seen teams break up play by someone clutching their head. But you can't do something that encourages players to pretend they don't have head injuries when they do or punish teams for suffering them. Ten minutes left in a close cup game and your star centre back gets a smack in the head - unlucky but you're now down to ten men for the rest of the match.
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Something needs doing but you also need to be wary of players dangerously soldiering through. An independent doctor at every game would help but would that increase the number of instances as players target 10 minutes respite from those that are running rings around them?
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You don't video evidence concussion but you could see if their was no contact and it was completely feigned. Concussion subs work pretty well in rugby but still very open to abuse.
I agree it's a problem. Multiple times this season seen teams break up play by someone clutching their head. But you can't do something that encourages players to pretend they don't have head injuries when they do or punish teams for suffering them. Ten minutes left in a close cup game and your star centre back gets a smack in the head - unlucky but you're now down to ten men for the rest of the match.
If they get a smack in the head to that degree you’d assume they’d go down wouldn’t you? Not sure how you couldn’t not? If you can then it’s already happening now I’d assume.
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The OP was on about the pillocks that go bottom over mammary and clutch their canisters feigning injuries. Snidey male masturbators.
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As was predicted, the moment this was introduced we all knew teams would utilise it to break up play etc. some teams are better at it than others.
People were complaining at the referee yesterday but to be honest, what he did is exactly what he has to do. The referees are between a rock and a hard place. He knew full well that their player was feigning a head injury but he can’t not stop the game. Imagine the first ref that does and the player turns out to have a genuine concussion etc, poor illegitimate will be hammered.
My anger was aimed directly at the player yesterday, it was blatant cheating. Simple as that.
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I wonder if football could introduce it where when someone goes down with a head injury aslong as it isn't dead centre of the action or the ref can clearly see its serious, the ref can wave a physio on to check the players condition whilst the game continues. If it is genuine and quite concerning then you flag the ref down to hault the game. This alone would stop alot of them staying down and milking it. Yesterday for example, no reason why we couldn't continue the game and a physio run on to assess him (although If the rule was in place he probably would of just stood up anyway)
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The thing is there’s very little a physio can do on the pitch without a CT scanner to rule out a serious head injury. All pretty pointless arrse covering.
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Managers play a role here, if they don’t accept their players embarrassing themselves like a few Mansfield players did yesterday it’s less likely to happen.
Khan goes down yesterday whilst Mansfield attack he doesn’t feign a head injury to stop the game, many players in that league do.
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Rugby league introduced a green card along similar lines: "player will be shown a green card if the game is forced to be paused for them to receive treatment. If the player is shown the green card, they will have to stay off the field for two minutes." "the change is being encouraged in an attempt to stop players from attempting to pick up a player who has stayed down while also discouraging players from feigning injury" https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/green-card-rugby-league-2023-25879386 Worth noting that head injuries carry a mandatory assessment anyway so a player will be off the pitch for a head injury regardless. Interesting concept though. I've seen it in practice when a player was definitely stalling for time and ref has used green card, even 2 mins of being a player down makes you more vulnerable, it has limited the number of feigned injuries from what I've seen (altho no data on this as hard to ascertain what's feigned I imagine). In the game I'm thinking of it nipped it in the bud, previously a team would of potentially stalled a few times to run the clock down, it happened once he got green carded and it didn't happen for remainder of game.
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