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WayneBurnettsJockstrap
August 17, 2022, 10:18am

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Just an aside.

How full was BP looking (home end) last night considering they said it was likely to have been a sell out?

How many empty seats could be seen?

I know on here several STH said they didnt go, and didnt release their tickets so there obviously would be some seats showing as empty
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Quite a few empties in the main stand towards the away end


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At least a couple of hundred empty in the pontoon.
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lots empty back of the main
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Quoted from Hagrid
lots empty back of the main


They were all sold out in the Main on the ticket portal three hours before kick off
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On the stream there looked to be lots of empty seats in the main stand
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Loads of people will have sacked it off having looked out the window.
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Only the odd few seats empty in the Upper, Pontoon end.


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I was rather geeky yesterday and did a little counting....

Based on there seems to be disagreements on the actual capacity of the various stands I went and did a little Maths using venue toolbox for seats and figured out what we open up for sale. Anyone equally as nerdy please feel free to check my work as it could be very error prone!

Upper Smiths (Blocks A, B, C, E) = 1800 - Block D greyed out.
Lower Smiths (Blocks D & B) = 413 - Given there's no posts or restricted, I trust the OS 826 stated capacity
Pontoon (Blocks A-F) = 1807
Main Stand (Blocks A-H) = 2422
Osmond (Blocks A & B) = 550

Total = 7405. This is less block D of the Upper which will obviously add some extra.

Tickets available as of 1800 yesterday when I was looking = 15 in Osmond, 10 in the main (7 of which were restricted) and 1 in the Pontoon. So a total of 26.

Obviously it won't always transpire that that's how many people are in the ground, but if that isn't considered sell out then I don't know what is. How long that continues is any persons guess, but it's an interesting thought as to what determines to 1878 when BP is no longer big enough.

In theory, if we have the actual support to a degree of only 26 saleable seats on a Tuesday night against Carlisle, does that not demonstrate that the audience is out there to justify greater investment in the improvement/expansion of BP or a new stadium?

As many have mentioned before, it's a great position to be in if not throwing certain problems we need to learn and adapt to having not really been in this position before.
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I think the big issue there Chris is that the number of seats sold isn't, at the minute, represented by the number of bums on seats. To be honest it never completely will be either.

There's hundreds of season ticket holders who won't get to every game, especially midweek games.  But at the minute we don't have a system that's either good enough nor enough of an incentive to get the majority of people to put those seats back on sale.

I'm gonna guesstimate here a bit but I reckon there was probably a good 400-500 seats last night that were never going to be occupied, sold to a season ticket holder but never put back into the sale system.  That needs addressing.  It follows on from another thread that you've got empty seats with decent views yet people are only left with restricted seats to purchase.  

I'm of the firm belief and in full agreement with you that we're in need of development and expansion of our capacity.  But the real evidence of it when we've consistently got a lack of empty seats at games. Otherwise it's a bit of a false economy.  I know the argument is that a sold seat is money in the coffers, but by ignoring the fall-off rate we're limited our potential to grow beyond this 8,000/9,000 ceiling.
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