Panic time?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Because he hasn't changed. He's still a stubborn little f***er.

Do you know him personally?

Yes he's apt to make subs late in games but I'm not sure how Hurst being "stubborn" this season has manifested itself to be honest. Maybe I've missed it but if you have specific examples then please share them, I'm not being antagonistic here I just haven't seen it.

I see a manager who has a plan and sticks to it unlike the last one (Holloway) who changed the plan various times during a game, or the previous one (Jolley)) who's plan led to us going man to man with one of the best teams in Europe, or the one before (Slade) who's plan was based on letting all the stalwarts and talent leave and hoping for the best, or the one before (Bignot) who's plan ... what plan?          

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Do you know him personally?

Yes he's apt to make subs late in games but I'm not sure how Hurst being "stubborn" this season has manifested itself to be honest. Maybe I've missed it but if you have specific examples then please share them, I'm not being antagonistic here I just haven't seen it.

I see a manager who has a plan and sticks to it unlike the last one (Holloway) who changed the plan various times during a game, or the previous one (Jolley)) who's plan led to us going man to man with one of the best teams in Europe, or the one before (Slade) who's plan was based on letting all the stalwarts and talent leave and hoping for the best, or the one before (Bignot) who's plan ... what plan?          

You say he’s not stubborn and then, one sentence later, say you see a manager ‘who has a plan and sticks to it’ ie. the very definition of stubborn.

By the way, I’m not saying stubborn is altogether bad though in the case of Andy Monkhouse it probably was.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Do you know him personally?

Yes he's apt to make subs late in games but I'm not sure how Hurst being "stubborn" this season has manifested itself to be honest. Maybe I've missed it but if you have specific examples then please share them, I'm not being antagonistic here I just haven't seen it.

I see a manager who has a plan and sticks to it unlike the last one (Holloway) who changed the plan various times during a game, or the previous one (Jolley)) who's plan led to us going man to man with one of the best teams in Europe, or the one before (Slade) who's plan was based on letting all the stalwarts and talent leave and hoping for the best, or the one before (Bignot) who's plan ... what plan?          

In fairness, what plans that?...all I'm seeing at the moment is a manager who's tinkering about to try n stop the rot and losing all cohesion within the squad.
Yes, admittedly, some if it's down to injury but right now I don't even see how we're suppose to be set up and certainly no set style of play.
Early doors we played with tempo, moved the ball, passed quickly and pressed high when out of possession. So are we seeing Hursts idea of plan B?..if so, I don't like it ..😌

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

In fairness, what plans that?...all I'm seeing at the moment is a manager who's tinkering about to try n stop the rot and losing all cohesion within the squad.
Yes, admittedly, some if it's down to injury but right now I don't even see how we're suppose to be set up and certainly no set style of play.
Early doors we played with tempo, moved the ball, passed quickly and pressed high when out of possession. So are we seeing Hursts idea of plan B?..if so, I don't like it ..😌

Maybe the plan hasn’t changed it’s just the players ability to sustain it especially when the best 11 aren’t available.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

In fairness, what plans that?...all I'm seeing at the moment is a manager who's tinkering about to try n stop the rot and losing all cohesion within the squad.
Yes, admittedly, some if it's down to injury but right now I don't even see how we're suppose to be set up and certainly no set style of play.
Early doors we played with tempo, moved the ball, passed quickly and pressed high when out of possession. So are we seeing Hursts idea of plan B?..if so, I don't like it ..😌

what 'tinkering' was there yesterday Northbank?  Crookes, Coke and Sousa were all injured/ill. Apart from Towler who was playing out of position? And Towler was the obvious choice given he's played at LB previously, Revan has been shiite and is a liability and if he's played Clifton there people would've been accusing him of tinkering. The bloke can't win (if you'll pardon the pun!)

Quoted from forza ivano

what 'tinkering' was there yesterday Northbank?  Crookes, Coke and Sousa were all injured/ill. Apart from Towler who was playing out of position? And Towler was the obvious choice given he's played at LB previously, Revan has been shiite and is a liability and if he's played Clifton there people would've been accusing him of tinkering. The bloke can't win (if you'll pardon the pun!)

Crocombe for Macca, DLK for Pearson, Towler out of position, going 5-3-1-1, from 4-4-1-1 to 4-3-1-2...it's all over the place, leaving Bapaga out who's won 3(I think) penalties.
And I'm sure Clifton can play as a competitive left back.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Crocombe for Macca, DLK for Pearson, Towler out of position, going 5-3-1-1, from 4-4-1-1 to 4-3-1-2...it's all over the place, leaving Bapaga out who's won 3(I think) penalties.
And I'm sure Clifton can play as a competitive left back.

and if he's played Clifton at LB  people would've moaned that he was playing people out of position, wasting our best midfielder etc etc
Everyone has been calling for Crocombe to be given a chance; Hurst does so and you moan about that
Pearson and Waterfall is never the answer and particularly up against their little,quick attacking line would've been a disaster.
It was never 5-3-1-1 yesterday so don't know where you get that from

Clifton is already being played out of position and completely wasted out wide. He may as well have been at LB, WFall and Towler in the middle worked well earlier in the season so why use Long King. When Crooks is fit we need Harry in the middle chasing and chasing and this will make defending so much easier for the back 4.

Can’t help thinking a lot of our issues stem from Coke not being the midfield linchpin that we thought he would be. Started the season as captain but has lost his place meaning Clifton is needed in midfield and can’t be as versatile as we would like.

Panic time possibly as fans, sack the manager no way. We are not in the quick fix business I'm afraid, and it rarely pays off when clubs do go down that road. I genuinely believe we should stick with Hurst until at the very least next Christmas. That is ample time to build a squad, meaning getting players, seeing who fits and who doesn't, getting suitable replacements in, and drilling your ethos into the group. How many new signings pre season? 15? Please stop acting like petulant children wanting everything to be right yesterday, this season was always going to be tough, worrying (and actionable) signs on the pitch but I disagree with anyone that tells me sacking Paul is the answer.