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Quoted from ginnywings

Your posts always seem to smack of holier than thou and you put yourself aside from "our fans" as if you know everything and no-one else knows anything. Phrases like "our fans celebrated" and "you're being reminded now" with the best of the bunch being "the happy clappers absolutely deserve that fate".

Most of your posts have the same knowing tone and it's fooking annoying.

The football may have been sh1te under Hurst, but the results were consistent, so he seemed the right fit. It's not worked and it's bad enough that peoples hopes are being dashed, without the "I told you so" posters being all smug about it.

Aye, and the posts 6 months before my own smack of ‘holier than thou’ and it’s absolutely infuriating to see those same people changing their minds after it was staring them in the face before. So many fans opinions are snuffed as negative and they turn out to be correct time & time again.

On top of that, the football (and tactics) were shite under Hurst and cost us promotion for years, now it’s costing us relegation, it’s playing out EXACTLY the same but with much more dire consequences. It wasn’t hard to see coming, you just needed to take off the Rose tinted specs for a second.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Aye, and the posts 6 months before my own smack of ‘holier than thou’ and it’s absolutely infuriating to see those same people changing their minds after it was staring them in the face before. So many fans opinions are snuffed as negative and they turn out to be correct time & time again.

On top of that, the football (and tactics) were shite under Hurst and cost us promotion for years, now it’s costing us relegation, it’s playing out EXACTLY the same but with much more dire consequences. It wasn’t hard to see coming, you just needed to take off the Rose tinted specs for a second.

But you are missing the point. Fans opinions don't matter; fans opinions don't win or lose games. Someone has to make a decision about who to appoint when we need a new manager and there was Hurst with a track record at the club for winning more than he loses; with a track record of saving a club in similar circumstances. Someone who could step in and hit the ground running without the need for the getting to know you bit.

You can shout from the rooftops how you are cleverer than the "rose tinted" fans and you knew EXACTLY what would happen, only you didn't know, you had an opinion and one which seems to be holding sway at the moment, but you don't have to be so fooking triumphant about it.

It matters not, what opinion fans had 6 months ago, yet you find it "infuriating when it was staring them in the face". Firstly, it wasn't staring everyone in the face, because nobody knows for sure what's going to happen and secondly we cannot do anything about it anyway. It's others who make the decisions and we as fans have to hope the right ones are made. Saying " I told you so" is just wasted breath.

Anyway, it's just fooking footy at the end of the day. People are dying in droves.

Quoted from ginnywings

But you are missing the point. Fans opinions don't matter; fans opinions don't win or lose games. Someone has to make a decision about who to appoint when we need a new manager and there was Hurst with a track record at the club for winning more than he loses; with a track record of saving a club in similar circumstances. Someone who could step in and hit the ground running without the need for the getting to know you bit.

You can shout from the rooftops how you are cleverer than the "rose tinted" fans and you knew EXACTLY what would happen, only you didn't know, you had an opinion and one which seems to be holding sway at the moment, but you don't have to be so fooking triumphant about it.

It matters not, what opinion fans had 6 months ago, yet you find it "infuriating when it was staring them in the face". Firstly, it wasn't staring everyone in the face, because nobody knows for sure what's going to happen and secondly we cannot do anything about it anyway. It's others who make the decisions and we as fans have to hope the right ones are made. Saying " I told you so" is just wasted breath.

Anyway, it's just fooking footy at the end of the day. People are dying in droves.

Absolutely agreed with all of this and especially the last bit. We are all town nuts But there has to be some perspective here. I honestly think Hurst is trying his best, equally I completely agree that he is doing an abysmal job in a results business. I would definitely keep him till the end of the season. If the form and the performances continue in the same vein he will have to go that is clear and an already alienated fan base will desert in even greater numbers
Watching us lose at home it’s like water off a ducks back to me now, I am absolutely accustomed to pitiful performances and Failure but this is failure that I cannot control and therefore I have absolutely no responsibility for it and this is the point. In an earlier thread somebody said That we have an emotional attachment to something that we have no control over. The point is that this team that we are attached to is absolutely useless but we did not create it And are not responsible for it
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Quoted from ginnywings

But you are missing the point. Fans opinions don't matter; fans opinions don't win or lose games. Someone has to make a decision about who to appoint when we need a new manager and there was Hurst with a track record at the club for winning more than he loses; with a track record of saving a club in similar circumstances. Someone who could step in and hit the ground running without the need for the getting to know you bit.

You can shout from the rooftops how you are cleverer than the "rose tinted" fans and you knew EXACTLY what would happen, only you didn't know, you had an opinion and one which seems to be holding sway at the moment, but you don't have to be so fooking triumphant about it.

It matters not, what opinion fans had 6 months ago, yet you find it "infuriating when it was staring them in the face". Firstly, it wasn't staring everyone in the face, because nobody knows for sure what's going to happen and secondly we cannot do anything about it anyway. It's others who make the decisions and we as fans have to hope the right ones are made. Saying " I told you so" is just wasted breath.

Anyway, it's just fooking footy at the end of the day. People are dying in droves.

Take your point, it’s all part of the frustration at the current situation and watching history repeat itself in more ways than one (relegation but watching Hurst make the same mistakes that caused the divide in opinion last time). I’ve no doubt that the fans aren’t the ones who need the frustration directed at, unfortunately there’s nowhere else to vent at the moment. A fact Hurst and the players ought to be delighted at.

I'm no fan of PH and am as p1ssed off as anyone watching us desperately trying to function like a proper football team, without success.

I thought he would have had us picking a few points by now but it seems beyond us at the moment.  

Quoted from Zmariner

Absolutely agreed with all of this and especially the last bit. We are all town nuts But there has to be some perspective here. I honestly think Hurst is trying his best, equally I completely agree that he is doing an abysmal job in a results business. I would definitely keep him till the end of the season. If the form and the performances continue in the same vein he will have to go that is clear and an already alienated fan base will desert in even greater numbers
Watching us lose at home it’s like water off a ducks back to me now, I am absolutely accustomed to pitiful performances and Failure but this is failure that I cannot control and therefore I have absolutely no responsibility for it and this is the point. In an earlier thread somebody said That we have an emotional attachment to something that we have no control over. The point is that this team that we are attached to is absolutely useless but we did not create it And are not responsible for it
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I don't understand why you would want Hurst to stay yet get rid at the end of the season if we continue being shite. Surely it would be best if a new manager came in so he could assess the current shower and also if accepting we are going down, be looking for players to build a squad that will hopefully challenge for promotion at the first attempt otherwise giving any new manager a much shorter time to do that.