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I would never insult you by calling you a ‘gammon’ because gammon can be cured, but I do get an inkling that your views are at least slightly right of centre.
That’s fine. As long as you are not hurting anyone, you are entitled to your views.
However, given that:
1. This current Conservative party is the most right-wing government the nation has had for at least 30 years
2. The PM was elected on the back of Brexit on a promise to get it done
3. A large percentage of Leavers voted for Brexit due to concerns about immigration, sovereignty and control of our borders
If the BBC and other ‘left-wing fanatical MSM organisations’ are so biased against the right, why are they not stood on the shores of the home counties reporting on these waves of illegal infidels ‘invading the country on a daily basis’?
Surely it would be in the interests of the leftist media to use this to attack the Govt and the right?
The right got their way. The right won. Pedal to the metal conservatism. Free trade. Control of our borders. Sovereignty reclaimed.
Yet migrants are still coming. We still cannot close our borders to keep out new Covid strains. We now have a new border down the Irish Sea, separating free trade between NI and the rest of the UK and facilitating the break up of the Union.
You would think the BBC, Sky News etc would be hammering Johnson and the Cabinet for their failures on this, rather than on some of the worst Covid death rates and economic statistics in the world.
Do you not think this suggests that most of the UK MSM is actually fairly central and unbiased and the extremist opinions and views are those perpetuated by the unregulated ‘social media channels’ that you appear to know and love?
Although I could argue a very mild ‘Right’ this is good representation of the nation then seeing as the majority of the population hold right wing views. As for the rest which part of cultural Marxism are you not understanding? The BBC are massively pro-immigration! It would be a bit hypocritical even for the BBC to stand on the shores of Kent reporting on the disgrace of our border control on a daily basis. |
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| Humbercod |
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Not to cause offence but given your political position I don’t imagine your views on LBGT+ related issues are particularly progressive.
I would imagine one of your many complaints about the BBC is the level of diversity and pro LGBT+ stance. Something about you suggests that you probably don’t snuggle up in an evening to watch RuPaul’s Drag Race. It’s ok, I don’t watch it either but I have no problem with it being broadcast on the BBC. I can simply change the channel rather than frothing at the mouth like a rabid Rottweiler.
So that leaves us with this pro LBGT+, liberal, leftie BBC channel. Using their perceived bias, do you not think the ‘woke, biased BBC’ would have seized on the fact that the three victims of the Reading attack were all gay and the attack followed a BLM protest in the same park
Surely it would fit the biased BBC narrative to really play on the sexual orientation of the victims and that they were targeted due to that and their affiliation with the ‘super Marxist megamovement’ of BLM?
I happened to be watching BBC News 24 and the Sky News coverage that day. As ‘Grimsby Pete’ alludes to in his post above, 24 hour rolling news coverage tends to sensationalise events such as this. I can well remember the 5-6 hours of rolling footage of out of focus helicopter shots. The banal reports from members of the public who had once visited the park in 1988 but hadn’t actually seen the murders on the day.
There was plenty of news coverage of the Reading attack, both on the day and for several days afterwards. None of the MSM or BBC hid that it appeared to be an extremist attack by a Libyan asylum seeker.
When the attacker was sentenced in November there was full coverage on the BBC.
I don’t know what more you wanted the BBC to do?
Maybe you expected them to track down poor Lee Rigby’s family and vox pop them on their doorstep. Maybe it would have satisfied you if Huw Edwards had three tears tattooed to his sculptured cheek and rounded up every Imaam in the country to be flogged publicly on the 10 O’Clock News.
It’s not a competition.
The Reading attack happened, the BBC reported on it for several days and then they stepped back because there wasn’t anything else to say and they would not have wanted to prejudice the case. Unlike your mate Yaxley-Lennon who does everything he can to keep Muslim criminals out of jail.
The US (and UK) race protests were reported on for weeks and months because they lasted for weeks and months.
And finally, back to Reading, if you can. Earlier this week a white man was found guilty of the attempted murder of a 57 y.o. woman in Reading by savagely and repeatedly stabbing her in the neck.
I don’t remember Clive Myrie reporting on that. Typical BBC bias, hey?!
LGBQT or whatever it’s called these days I’ve got no problems with each to their own I say. Disagree with the reporting on Reading....7 days? I also happened to watch the BBC at the time as I often do to see them squirm around the known facts, it was reported on initially without any mention of the attacker, It took less then a minute to find out on Twitter or RT news to find out he was an extremist shouting ‘Allah Akbar’ as he stabbed away, the story was soon then buried by the BBC as attacker being a minority refugee trumps 3 white gay men, like I say they have an agenda to keep up. They also pretty much buried the full story regarding the little Bolton girl, but we’re quick to show off Bolton town hall all lit up like a Xmas tree in remembrance to good old George! If any of these attacks had been by a right wing nut job attacking an ethnic minority, then the BBC would be still be covering it now. Yes political motivated race protests lasted months, gets reported daily, yellow vest movement lasted over a year absolutely nothing.? Back to Reading was the victim white?? .... non story then. |
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Although I could argue a very mild ‘Right’ this is good representation of the nation then seeing as the majority of the population hold right wing views.
As for the rest which part of cultural Marxism are you not understanding? The BBC are massively pro-immigration! It would be a bit hypocritical even for the BBC to stand on the shores of Kent reporting on the disgrace of our border control on a daily basis.
Nothing like the majority of the country hold right wing views. More votes were cast in the last election for parties with centre/left or left wing policies but because of our stupid system we ended up with a huge majority for the Tories. |
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Lew is right wing and despite what one or two think I like him and there is some truth in what he says .Likewise theres other good users on the left on here notably Barralad and KnutAndersfostersvole. My outlook on things is more the middle ground.
For myself I like a global perspective. I often get fed up with just looking at the BBC . I tend to watch Al Jeezera a fair bit on free to air television. Gives you a overall look at what's happening in the world even if it has a left bias and has some good documentary's. Likewise their stance is they cover events long after they have gone out of mainstream news.
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I mean if people actually think this will be a representation of unbiased news they’re deluded.
There’s many a reason why news is bias and a channel/programme fronted by openly conservative, albeit honest, Andrew Neil won’t be anymore or less bias. Naturally there’s a cash cow he’s spotted here and will benefit from that.
The fact the right are terrified, or the right on this forum seem terrified by folk on the opposite side is worrying.
I don’t worry that folk have a different view to me, even the bigots and racists don’t worry me, I just pity them.
What does worry me is the fixed mindset and inability to change or adapt that many seem to have.
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Although I could argue a very mild ‘Right’ this is good representation of the nation then seeing as the majority of the population hold right wing views.
Incorrect. 2019 General Election CON 43.6% BRX 2.0% DUP 0.8% UUP 0.3% UKIP 0.1% Right Wing 46.8%LAB 32.1% LDM 11.5% SNP 3.9% GRN 2.8% (includes Scottish Greens) PLC 0.5% ALL 0.4% SDLP 0.4% Left to Centre Parties 51.6%So about 52% v 47% to non-right wing parties. Which is strange because I thought 52% was the required amount of votes for us to get what we want forever. |
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| lew chaterleys lover |
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Edited this for you...
Can I just say one thing (well a few things)...
News isn't nationalistic. News doesn't take sides. News doesn't have an agenda.
News is fact. When you distort facts you misinform.
Using news for any other purpose than to inform is nothing short of propaganda.
I am awfully sorry, but I don't want my posts edited. |
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| GollyGTFC |
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Nothing like the majority of the country hold right wing views. More votes were cast in the last election for parties with centre/left or left wing policies but because of our stupid system we ended up with a huge majority for the Tories.
This. I live in a safe Tory seat. In reality there is no point in me voting because all I do is reduce the Tory MPs majority by 1. My brother lives in a safe Labour seat. Conversely there are Tory voters there (not my brother) who vote just to reduce the Labour MP’s majority by 1. There are approximately 150 seats each that have returned just Tory and just Labour MPs for generations. 300 seats that are dead certs isn’t good for democracy in my opinion. I would think a 50-50 split of constituency MPs and PR MPs would be a good solution. 43.6% shouldn’t give any party 56.2% of seats or an 80 seat majority. Such a system in 2019 would have given the Tories around 183 constituency MPs and 142 PR MPs which would have been exactly half of all MPs (325). |
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| GollyGTFC |
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I am awfully sorry, but I don't want my posts edited.
Well done, that’s the response I was hoping for... But you’re quite happy for news to be edited to push a right wing/nationalistic agenda. Tough. You can’t have it both ways. |
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| lew chaterleys lover |
| February 8, 2021, 10:18am |
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Well done, that’s the response I was hoping for...
But you’re quite happy for news to be edited to push a right-wing/nationalistic agenda.
Tough. You can’t have it both ways.
I think you have got things a tad out of proportion. As a matter of courtesy, you should not go around "editing" peoples posts for them just because you don't like it. In any event I was commenting on national media reports that a new channel, whose main presenter said it was to give a balance to the overly woke output of the other news channels, had been targetted by those on the left who wanted to attack it before it had even begun broadcasting. Are we not allowed to comment on national media reports in your world? |
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