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Hagrid
January 24, 2021, 9:29am

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I give a damn about the club. Doesnt mean im good enough. Clifton can go
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I give a damn about the club. Doesnt mean im good enough. Clifton can go


In defiance of Max, Harry and Mattie Pollock they have been expected to do the jobs of experienced pro's on far to many occasions, they should have been eased into the side and carefully managed and made to fight really hard for their shirts and evelop their games accordingly.

I feel particularly sorry for Harry Clifton as he's been asked to play so many roles in such a poor side that he should get an Oscar. All of these lads need a strong/experienced player alongside them imagine what Pollock could have learned from Danny Collins, Harry from Dis and Max doubling up with someone like Richard Tait?    


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In defiance of Max, Harry and Mattie Pollock they have been expected to do the jobs of experienced pro's on far to many occasions, they should have been eased into the side and carefully managed and made to fight really hard for their shirts and evelop their games accordingly.

I feel particularly sorry for Harry Clifton as he's been asked to play so many roles in such a poor side that he should get an Oscar. All of these lads need a strong/experienced player alongside them imagine what Pollock could have learned from Danny Collins, Harry from Dis and Max doubling up with someone like Richard Tait?    


Exactly this,  100%. Clifton has probably played more games out his natural position than in it this season. We need him back, not sure how he can get the blame for yesterday when he didn't even play! I would go 3 in the middle from now on- new guy , Rose and Clifton.
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January 24, 2021, 10:59am
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Exactly this,  100%. Clifton has probably played more games out his natural position than in it this season. We need him back, not sure how he can get the blame for yesterday when he didn't even play! I would go 3 in the middle from now on- new guy , Rose and Clifton.


I don't disagree with your point but that midfield leaves 1 up front (presumably hanson) and I don't see the midfield you mention getting the goals we would then need. Maybe matete but rose certainly not he isn't mobile enough quick enough to be ploughing beyond midfield. Clifton has the legs to do it and is the only 1 of the midfielders to get beyond the striker, but doesn't have the quality to get more than the odd goal.

Could go back to 4-3-3 but that leaves our full backs exposed, habergham would struggle and probably Hendrie too based on recent performances. Not sure it's the get tight defensively and build from there system we probably need.

We might be better accepting we haven't got a great deal of creativity in the middle and go with Clifton and matete in there. Matete has some quality about him. Rely on their energy and winning the ball and hope creativity comes from the wings (Wright, morais, scannell). For me rose doesn't offer enough given his limitations, plus he's a liability in his own box. If we were to have a 3rd one in midfield i would probably go with spokes.

Although to be honest the main thing is to sign new players, hope Hurst is spending all his time on the phone.
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To go  Green, Waterfell (Why another years contract) Williams, all the loanees. Spokes, Gibson, Jackson need time. Obviously dump Hanson end of season. Hewitt, Clifton useful squad players, ask Fleetwood how much to buy Matete.
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I'm surprised at the criticism of Jackson and Gibson.

Surely neither of them have had sufficient playing time.
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I'm surprised at the criticism of Jackson and Gibson.

Surely neither of them have had sufficient playing time.


That's because they aren't good enough, not yet anyway, and chances are they never will be. They were brought in to learn and perhaps develop over time into decent players alongside better, more experienced strikers. They are boys being asked to do the job of men and that's not fair on them. They should be no more than bit part players at this stage. It's hard enough for a player to adapt to a higher level in a good side, never mind the poor one we have now. They were supposed to be playing in this mythical development pool of players that IH banged on about. We are GTFC, not Arsenal. I think Hurst will get rid at the first opportunity.


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January 24, 2021, 11:34am

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I'm surprised at the criticism of Jackson and Gibson.

Surely neither of them have had sufficient playing time.


Not good enough never will be

3 year deals. What the utter intercourse was the clown thinking
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Not good enough never will be

3 year deals. What the utter intercourse was the clown thinking


It's 3 years for Gibson, 2 for Jackson and 1 for Sissay, but your point stands.


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It's 3 years for Gibson, 2 for Jackson and 1 for Sissay, but your point stands.


3 years for Gibson that ls the same as bogle got - but the gulf between  them is a chasm. Bogle was immediately one of our best players when  he arrived - Gibson didn't know the offside rule.
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