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Croxton
January 23, 2021, 9:19pm
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Gonna stick my neck on the line and say Clifton has proved his worth way more than Wright ever has.

Wright gets off lightly because he’s a winger, therefore his play is easier on the eye, but he has only made 16 starts for us.

I don’t want either of them to leave, they both love the club and can be good squad players and still have time to improve. But I do find it odd and a little unfair that Harry gets WAY more criticism than Max, who can do no wrong in the eyes of many.


Max can't get a run in the team due mainly to injury. When he gets a chance he so often spoils a lot of good work tracking back, stretching defences and slinging crosses in by petty fouls and silly yellows. If Morais comes back in Max would be better than Preston despite not being a lefty.
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Quoted from sam gy
Gonna stick my neck on the line and say Clifton has proved his worth way more than Wright ever has.

Wright gets off lightly because he’s a winger, therefore his play is easier on the eye, but he has only made 16 starts for us.

I don’t want either of them to leave, they both love the club and can be good squad players and still have time to improve. But I do find it odd and a little unfair that Harry gets WAY more criticism than Max, who can do no wrong in the eyes of many.


Neither are very good. Let’s be honest, neither would get anywhere near our 2016 team from non league.
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January 23, 2021, 9:53pm

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Quoted from sam gy
Gonna stick my neck on the line and say Clifton has proved his worth way more than Wright ever has.

Wright gets off lightly because he’s a winger, therefore his play is easier on the eye, but he has only made 16 starts for us.

I don’t want either of them to leave, they both love the club and can be good squad players and still have time to improve. But I do find it odd and a little unfair that Harry gets WAY more criticism than Max, who can do no wrong in the eyes of many.


because Max does produce and is dangerous.His main fallibility is that he's injury prone, but when he plays he invariably poses a threat. Harry ,unfortunately, does none of that.He works hard and tackles well, but the ability to consistently pass the ball to a team mate seems beyond him.
You only had to look at the performance today from a 19 year old Fleetwood reserve, to realise just how lacking Harry is in the basic skills of the game. He's played 100 games, experienced international under 21 football and been coached in the international set up, yet we have seen very little improvement in distribution, goal scoring threat etc. Indeed i would argue that Spokes is ahead of Harry in the pecking order, because imho he has some strength, a bit of skill, is  a better passer and actually possesses some attacking intent. Pains me to say it but that's how i see it
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The chances are none of them are going anywhere until the season ends, so we might as well treat them as though they are the only hope of us climbing up the table because nobody else is going to do it.


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Quoted from sam gy
Gonna stick my neck on the line and say Clifton has proved his worth way more than Wright ever has.

Wright gets off lightly because he’s a winger, therefore his play is easier on the eye, but he has only made 16 starts for us.

I don’t want either of them to leave, they both love the club and can be good squad players and still have time to improve. But I do find it odd and a little unfair that Harry gets WAY more criticism than Max, who can do no wrong in the eyes of many.


Of course he will get more criticism, he plays more games.
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How many times do we see good promising young players break into the team from the youth team,  do well and then fall away? All the time. In my opinion there is nothing in place at the club to help them progress, no specialised coaches once they leave the youth team. Woods and co do a brilliant job but there is no one then to continue the work. Another example of how far behind as a club we are. The constant changing of managers can not help either. However I would have Pollock, Clifton and Wright in the team all day long at the minute as they care and try, something many of the others blatantly don't. It is important to have that fight at a time like this. Plus remember if we do manage to stay up, we need 2 youth graduates in each match day squad. Hurst has never shown any interest in bringing youth players through, I see no evidence now this will change. So we will need all 3 of them next year (potentially!). Plus I do believe they are all good enough with proper coaching, something hopefully the takeover will bring.
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Pains me to say it butmacca has been a major liability this season and needs replacing as first choice urgently.

Green Gibson Jackson  all need replacing with a couple of new strikers. Almost forgot sissay but the fact he struggled at cleethorpes town tells you all you need to know. Obviously he needs to go.

Hanson has such a dreadful injury record that he can't possibly be relied on and, although I'd keep him as back up he needs replacing as a first choice.

Scannell has sometimes played well, but not consistent enough and not available enough so needs replacing as first choice.

Wright can look dangerous, one of our few bright attacking prospects but doesn't effect games enough consistently or score enough. Also too lightweight and injury prone. Could be kept as backup/squad player but needs replacing as a first choice (if you can call him that).

Bennett shows some nice touches but not consistent or up for a fight needs replacing.

Morais has looked our best wide man but now seems to have caught the unavailability bug we have and is probably out for weeks..

Clifton Hewitt spokes are all similar in that they aren't good enough to be a first choice player but we're so shite they often have to be. Squad players really. Clifton narrowly the best at the moment for me. Spokes may be better than him in a year or so tho. Clifton and Hewitt are very versatile which helps their cause to stay.

Williams - don't know what position he plays really and doesn't seem like management know either. Has some skill but very lightweight and a fanny. Practically identical to Tilley really. Free kicks are shite. Neither are players for a relegation battle. Squad level players at league 2 level but only useful if the season is going well and they have confidence.

Preston -started ok but poor now. Should only have been backup for which he would probably have been good enough.
Habergham -looks rusty, hopefully will improve to be good enough that he wouldn't need replacing.

Hendrie - over the last 12 months probably our most consistent player. he has noticeably dipped lately. But that still better than the others. Doesnt need replacing.

Waterfall pollock- ok but too similar to play together. Strong, good in the air, slow. Pollock is at least dangerous at set pieces but is noticeably the poorer of the two playing passes forward. Either could be dropped but 1 should be in the first 11. Have to remember that pollock is still only a teenager tho and young players have dips in form but we've not had any1 as backup. He is still a great prospect.
Idehen- not good enough at the moment but great prospect
Mayonnaise - only just arrived

Matete- quite impressive on his debut. I expect his performance levels to deteriorate to our level given time.

I've probably forgotten a few, they probably need replacing too.


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Bennett has apparently done his hamstring so that means he’s been fooked out the door so 1 down . Realistically none of the current squad are good enough footballing wise or mentally which is why we are where we are . I’d happily see the back of every single one of them . Hopefully PH feels the same . Sounds like it from the interview I’ve just listened to .


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I’m afraid Hewitt only chance is converting to centre back , he has no attributes at all that a midfielder needs

quote=170]Hewitt will always be included in the squad because he's so versatile.
Hendrie has been pretty solid all season, although today he was piisss poor
Rose looked an awful lot more effective today partnering matete. Hurst likes experienced players so i suspect he'll be told that a lot more is expected of him but he will be an almost automatic pick. Think Clifton is destined to be a squad player
I'd say McKeown & Green are the ones under real threat - they are consistently underperforming

the rest I'd agree with[/quote]

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The way am feeling at the moment they can all go except Pollock, Wright and Clifton. At least these 3 give a damn about the club. As Waterfall has signed a new 1 year extension  then i guess hes not going anywhere neither. So for me start the next transfer window with 4 contracted players and start afresh
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