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December 22, 2020, 6:19pm

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Team sheet been out for a while, promise I'll not do the next one  

No Mattie Pollock?

Town: McKeown, Hendrie, Hewitt, Waterfall, Preston, Morais, Clifton, Spokes, Bennett, Jackson Jr, Gibson.

Subs: Russell, Idehen, Tilley, Starbuck, Rose, Edwards, Green.


When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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Can assume Pollock is injured, nice to actually see some consistency in the line up!!..
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December 22, 2020, 6:21pm

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Pollock must be injured or poorly as Ollie said he was outstanding in last match.


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Billy Clarke (and Richard O'Donnell for decade ago loanee fans) in the Bradford 11.

(click on it!)

https://twitter.com/ParkerTandA/status/1341446069696249857


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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December 22, 2020, 6:32pm

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How the hell does bennett earn a start after those last 2 'performances'?
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We have a strong bench tonight if they are needed.


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Shows that Ollie is happy with mobile Hewitt alongside Waterfall / Pollack combination maybe


Blundell Park - The Home of Grimsby Town Football Club (still)  
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No home commentary yet?
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Eeve started quite well.both sides already played more football than we did on saturday
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I do like Morais, decent player for our level.


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December 22, 2020, 7:11pm
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Couple of great crosses from Morais again, quality player.
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Quoted from Northbank Mariner
Can assume Pollock is injured, nice to actually see some consistency in the line up!!..


But who’s going to score our goals??
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Started brightly
UTM


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Morais sent in some excellent crosses and corners.spokes playing very confidently and had a good half volley from a corner  having daid that we look much more confident all round
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Decent start, Morais quality.
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Shock news.morais wasted a pass 🤣🤣
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2 Am here.  Town look a different side.  Playing decent football.  Direct.  Moarais is a class act.  He puts in some good deliveries.  
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Morais putting some beautiful balls in. Oh for Hanson
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What a goal!
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intercourse sake


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Great goal  


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Brilliant overhead kick pits them unreservedly 1 up
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Nice goal, tbf


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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Against the run of play. Hats off, thats excellent
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Good goal by them but disappointing to see it go in there?

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excrement! Good goal though.
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December 22, 2020, 7:23pm

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Playing well enough to recover
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Cracking goal to be fair, Macca no chance.


When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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Can’t do a lot about that
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Wish they would mix the corners up a bit.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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FFS, I'm sure there's a curse on this club.
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December 22, 2020, 7:29pm

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Could of been a peno for us there  we are having the better of play at the moment


Gtfc all the way
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December 22, 2020, 7:32pm

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Penalty all day long, pushed the back of his neck.


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iFollow stats mean nothing.  Shots on target  Town 1 - Bradford 0 -  I thnk they've had at least one shot on target
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We certainly don't seem to get much luck I mean they score a worldly and we don't get a penalty decision.
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Not a pen for me. Little or no contact. One of them maybe a foul elsewhere. Never a foul in the box. Just need to create something as bradford look cack
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Clifton just been given freekick for slight nudge yet hendrie doesn't get a peno


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Won't fall for us in the box  


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Their winner on Sat was judged "goal of the Division".  
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Cameraman on the urine?!
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Our attack is too nice we need to bully them a bit more at the back and a bit more movement


Gtfc all the way
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Why is it that every single loose ball seems to fall to them?
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Lost a bit of impetus.  We need a bit of luck or a bit of quality in front of goal.
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I wish we still had Glennon.
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That’s that then 0-2
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I take back what i put earlier
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Good shot stopper is he? Awful positioning, awful decision making


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Game over for me oir defence turned too easy


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Another great goal, jeez we don't deserve that
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We’re extremely consistent.


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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If only we could finish like they have  


When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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Ffs theyve scored a second great goal  I cant believe this  we so dont deserve this
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Game over. We’ve been really poor since the 1st goal
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Simple ball over the top - it was a good finish but too easy. Why don’t we have players who can finish like this?
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Another good goal by them but can’t feel too sorry for ourselves

We’ve not made enough chances to take advantage

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I really worry we are going to get relegated, every week we come across top quality finishes no matter how well we play
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Better performance from Town than I've seen for a while but losing to two great goals.  What a ball that was. That's the difference.  We wanna walk it into the net.
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Good shot stopper is he? Awful positioning, awful decision making


Oh rubbish. Thats rank bad mid-fielding not tracking the man
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Fenty's fault  


When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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Another good goal but Clifton lost his man and Macca in no mans land. Bit unlucky, but poor too 😕
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Goodnight, scrappy win then back to normal


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Not sounding to critical but have we got no one better than Spokes and Bennett??
Not saying they aren't trying but they both are not very good players.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Game over!!


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Simple ball over the top - it was a good finish but too easy. Why don’t we have players who can finish like this?


Billy Clarke away at Leyton in January?
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Created nothing. Our left side is below the standard required.
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I dread it every time we play. It spoils the night / day.
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I wish we still had Glennon.


he was quality wasn't he

Preston worries me. ok on the ball- but positional sense is appalling. id shift Hendrie over there to try and nullify Clarke. Hewitt right back and Idehen in middle.
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Not sounding to critical but have we got no one better than Spokes and Bennett??
Not saying they aren't trying but they both are not very good players.


Be as kind as you like but Spokes is not a footballer...


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Quoted from FishOutOfWater


Billy Clarke away at Leyton in January?


Unfortunately he’s not on the pitch.
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Not sounding to critical but have we got no one better than Spokes and Bennett??
Not saying they aren't trying but they both are not very good players.


dunno which game you're watching but spokes and morais have been our best 2 players
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Sorry but Preston isn't good enough, no spacial awareness and drawn to the ball to easy rather than watching his man, in fairness we've looked okay coming down the right but we need Edwards to pose a threat down the left, teams too lopsided. Just cannot see where our goals are coming from.
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No way was Macca at fault there, exactly where you should expect your keeper to be in that situation.
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If we’d scored those goals, we would be ecstatic. Good goals, could we have done much more? Probably not. That’s as good as we are without Scannell, Hanson, Pollock and Rose.
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Created nothing. Our left side is below the standard required.


The whole team is not at the standard we require , but its all we got at the moment so we have to put up with it for now
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How many goals have we conceded on the first 5 mins and the last 5 mins before half time, always switch off


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Bradford arent anything good either. And thats worrying. As they were below us. Its a massive January
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If we’d scored those goals, we would be ecstatic. Good goals, could we have done much more? Probably not. That’s as good as we are without Scannell, Hanson, Pollock and Rose.


Fenty's fault. Neither of those would have gone in if Shutes and Co. owned the club


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Fenty's fault. Neither of those would have gone in if Shutes and Co. owned the club


I’m sure you’re right Swin.
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For all our effort can't remember their keeper having to make a save, jeez do we need some reinforcements in the Jan window or we are going down.


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Two really good goals. Frustrating but we're showing signs of a bit more cohesion. Like others have said, we need a left side that matches our right, because Preston isn't up to the standard (not for the want of trying), and I'm not a fan of Bennett either. Surprised some are questioning Spokes, he's been far better than Clifton.

Lets all pray Hanson gets fit soon, because he'll be having a field day with some of Morais's crosses.
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Game over!!


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Quoted from Ipswin


Fenty's fault. Neither of those would have gone in if Shutes and Co. owned the club


That could well be true Swin - butterfly effect and all that. Or we could be 3 down.

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Much better performance than Saturday and Bradford not that much better than Scunny, just had 2 moments of real quality so fair play really.
We still don’t have the cutting edge up front but there are some signs of improvement - Gibson in particular looking more handy.
Important now to keep heads up.
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Preston not on it all. Clarke there for their out ball. Preston slow reaction and Clifton too slow to get closer to the scorer.
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2 behind but on a strange way I’m not to disappointed due to them both being top notch goals. Think we need to sort left side out as bennet offers little.

Spokes been decent again for a young centre mid.
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Bizarre half really, thought we played quite well. They have taken two half chances clinically.

I thought we should’ve definitely had a pen as well. Jackson has struggled for a a kick up top. Would like to see Edwards on for Bennett
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Can’t see what Bennett brings to be honest. Very lightweight.
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We never score the type of goals we concede. Consistently struggle against sides everyone else is beating. This run of games was supposed to be easier.
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All about the next goal. We get it, and Bradford will show some fragility..

Edwards has to come on.. probably for Ira..
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I can’t believe any of the loan signings are going to make it in the game. Certainly not at a higher level than league 2
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Sometime we have to accept that Clark, Novak and other players are better than our youngsters.
How many town players would get into Bradfords team. Not many.

Until we pay proper money to proper players who are not crocks we will continue to struggle. Sorry.
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We never score the type of goals we concede.  


We never score as many as we concede, even against the crap teams

We are in deep excrement


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2 behind but on a strange way I’m not to disappointed due to them both being top notch goals. Think we need to sort left side out as bennet offers little.

Spokes been decent again for a young centre mid.


That first goal was like slow motion , the defender shouldn’t have let him finish
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The whole team is not at the standard we require , but its all we got at the moment so we have to put up with it for now


I picked on the left hand side because i don't think Holloway would change it even with everyone fit. We do have a hell of a lot of players missing.

Our first choice XI would be safely midtable.

McKeown

Hendrie
Waterfall
Pollock
Preston

Hewitt
Rose
Williams
Scannell
Morais

Hanson

That team, fully fit, would be competitive.
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dunno which game you're watching but spokes and morais have been our best 2 players


Matter of opinions
I think all he's done is get in the way and not really contributed anything.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Good work by Bennet there.  Get in !
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Well worked.bennett assist ,clifton stabbed home
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I picked on the left hand side because i don't think Holloway would change it even with everyone fit. We do have a hell of a lot of players missing.

Our first choice XI would be safely midtable.

McKeown

Hendrie
Waterfall
Pollock
Preston

Hewitt
Rose
Williams
Scannell
Morais

Hanson

That team, fully fit, would be competitive.


We'd be relegated long before Hanson is 'fully fit' so don't count him in



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Get in ...Clifton, game on  


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Get in. Come on town these arent any good
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Back in this come on town


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Great lay off by Edwards. Why doesn’t he start?
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He's one of our own


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We never score as many as we concede, even against the crap teams

We are in deep excrement


I dont know if you're watching ipswin, but we have played well
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Back in a game we were unfortunate to be out of. Come on you Mighty Mariners! 🏴‍☠️
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C'mon Town.


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Hanson should not be regarded as a Town asset.  He is injured most of the time.  We have to plan to be without him.
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I dont know if you're watching ipswin, but we have played well


I don't disagree but we don't score enough goals and look at the number of goals against (worldy or very ordinary it doesnt matter) its a fact, thats why we have lost so many games



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Getting fook all from this ref the male masturbator


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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We've got a chance here, definitely not out of it.
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Green making a difference.
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Liking the look of Spokes - don’t really get why he’s being criticised
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Bennett playing centrally and looks a different player
No way we are getting relegated playing like this
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It must knock your confidence.  The best you've played for an age as a team, the opposition not looking too much of a threat and they bang in their only two shots at goal.  
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Good block by Macca, looked offside though.


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We are well on top at the moment just need another


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Quality by Edwards.  Makes space lovely crossfield ball to Morais.  We can still get a point here at least.
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Unfortunately he’s not on the pitch.


Not for Town tonight but could have sworn I heard him mentioned 😉
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Bennett playing centrally and looks a different player
No way we are getting relegated playing like this


Looked good and making things happen then gets dragged off????


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Not sure why he took Bennett offo
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Is it me or does Green look knacked?


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
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Is it me or does Green look knacked?


I thought similar about 5 mins ago
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He’s not given Green a thing this ref
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How many more times is the ref going to warn their keeper for time wasting?
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Looked good and making things happen then gets dragged off????


I know.couldnt understand that at all.
Ps what has green done to upset this ref? Has been given nothing
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I thought similar about 5 mins ago


Mind you I suppose that's the way he always looks


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Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Don’t know why he doesn’t start Green and Gibson, both good headers, cos Marais can swing em in
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Same as most other games I’ve watched this season , lots of huffing and puffing with no shots on target.
We make craps teams look comfortable
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Substitutions have killed our play here....


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Preston had a bit of a stinker tonight


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Don’t know why he doesn’t start Green and Gibson, both good headers, cos Marais can swing em in


If he started Green and Gibson at the same time we’d be waiting all season for a goal
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Bradford are excrement. I hope Rose can add some craft and impetus.
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Why does the pitch look like the latter stages of the Somme? Is the groundsman still furloughed?
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Bradford are poor, what does that say about us.



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Preston had a bit of a stinker tonight


Think a steady Eddie left back would be one of the first incomes in january
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Morais our best player put in loads of inviting crosses in.


Gtfc all the way
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Great Cruyff turn by Morais
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If he started Green and Gibson at the same time we’d be waiting all season for a goal


You ever played footy
Marais is the only one who can put em in the box and Green and Gibson are the only strikers we’ve got who can head em
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Ref letting them get away with blatant time wasting, poor.


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Interesting substitutions for sure.
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Bradford fans rubbing their hands with glee at Bennett getting subbed as they’re talking about how dangerous he looked.

Town fans buzzing because they think Bennett has been shite.

Ah, football.


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Marais again providing a threat not bad for a winger shame no midfielder left winger doing the same thing
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Amazing save macca
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As if this group of 30 players that have been on the pitch tonight get paid to do this as their profession. What an awful standard .
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Toothless again.


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Quoted from sam gy
Bradford fans rubbing their hands with glee at Bennett getting subbed as they’re talking about how dangerous he looked.

Town fans buzzing because they think Bennett has been shite.

Ah, football.


How dyou know that?
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Half these players aren’t good enough and the other half aren’t fit enough
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How dyou know that?


Just looking on Twitter


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FT.....Town 1-2 Bradford  

Unlucky again but we keep on saying it.


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Yet again huff puff huff puff
Tried there hardest, not enough quality in all areas of the pitch.

Preston he'd a proper stinker.
I know we have nothing upfront but surely it's time to pay Green off and try to get someone in in January.

The manager has a lot to answer for with his very confusing substitutions and formation in the latter part of the game.

If we can't get a result against these we are fooked because apart from two great goals they were nothing.

Mad as intercourse with IH


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Disappointing outcome

Huffed and puffed but not enough penetration from our forwards
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A really poor Bradford side have not had to be anything special to beat us. Im so concerned
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Our goal-difference is clearly the second-worst.  That says a lot about our overall performances.  
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FT.....Town 1-2 Bradford  

Unlucky again but we keep on saying it.


I’d rather be lucky winners ; this is excrement whatever way you look at it
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Very poor result against a team who had 3 decents shots all game were struggling at the moment. Too inexperienced and not enough quality


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Quoted from Hagrid
A really poor Bradford side have not had to be anything special to beat us. Im so concerned


a really poor bradford side? With Novak, Donaldson and Guthrie to choose from up front?
we played well. we desperately need a goalscorer, and id say a left back, but spokes looks a big plus
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a really poor bradford side? With Novak, Donaldson and Guthrie to choose from up front?
we played well. we desperately need a goalscorer, and id say a left back, but spokes looks a big plus


Yeah. A really poor side. Who were below us in the table and looked absolute crap. And came away with 3 points easily
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Oh well  only another 3 points lost
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If we’re not good enough on a good night against a bang average Bradford that tells you all you need to know. Bennett looked woeful out wide, much better central then got pulled. Why?
Spokes looked ok, as did Morais but we need a proven goal scorer. Man of the match? Probably Hewitt.
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What the f was Holloway thinking, Spokes out on his feet, Morais offering our only threat and he brings him off for Rose?..Green offers absolutely nothing, NADA nowt.
Really worried we are truly relegation fodder, we seem to have zero quality Barr Morais going forward, git to say it, IH need not say that was a good performance, battling yes, but good?..far flipping from it!!
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with Morais on the pitch- our strikers can no longer complain of poor service.

spokes best game in a town shirt. thought he bossed the middle.....  against a midfield 3!!



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Can’t help but think Holloway should be holding his hands up there.

Substitutions did us there. Worked out great for Bradford. Spokes will never be a footballer, but when he’s run his socks off and you leave him on he’s gonna be even less effective.

We’re naive and at times it just seems like we roll a dice and see what happens.

We can bemoan our luck and so on but how many times are we gonna say we were unlucky but finish the game with nothing...


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Never mind, every step nearer the Conference knocks a few quid off the purchase price for potential takeover syndicate(s) (assuming anyone wants to buy a non-league club of course)


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Looked like they had a pre-agreed substitution schedule rather than reacting to events on the pitch


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When he was subbed on, if Green had walked up to the ref, head butted him and walked straight off, he’d have still offered more to the game than he did tonight.

Release every striker we have, they’re all flipping garbage.

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We have played three teams in the bottom 5 in the last fortnight and come away with 1 point out of 9.

Lets' face it. We are the worst team in the country. Again.

Barrow and Stevenage must we wondering when it's their turn to get 3 easy points.
  
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Quoted from aldi_01
Can’t help but think Holloway should be holding his hands up there.

Substitutions did us there. Worked out great for Bradford. Spokes will never be a footballer, but when he’s run his socks off and you leave him on he’s gonna be even less effective.

We’re naive and at times it just seems like we roll a dice and see what happens.

We can bemoan our luck and so on but how many times are we gonna say we were unlucky but finish the game with nothing...


Sorry, Aldi, disagree about Spokes, watch him and you'll see he has good feet, passed the ball really well and until the 80th minute when his legs went, ran that midfield.
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That's football.   Bennet got better, Morais was class despite some quiet periods. Spokes had a good game but should have gone off.  He looked dead on his feet. Town's passing much better as are the crosses but we need a goalscorer who's good with both feet and his head.   A lot of criticism but the players worked hard. That's a big difference than earlier in the season.
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a really poor bradford side? With Novak, Donaldson and Guthrie to choose from up front?
we played well. we desperately need a goalscorer, and id say a left back, but spokes looks a big plus


We didn't play well, we weren't horrific but we created nothing against a very poor team. Quality strikers still require chances to put away. We badly need Scannell back and Bennett shouldn't be played outwide in front of a limited Preston.again.
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Sometime we have to accept that Clark, Novak and other players are better than our youngsters.
How many town players would get into Bradfords team. Not many.

Until we pay proper money to proper players who are not crocks we will continue to struggle. Sorry.


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When he was subbed on, if Green had walked up to the ref, head butted him and walked straight off, he’d have still offered more to the game than he did tonight.

Release every striker we have, they’re all flipping garbage.

Spokes MOM


Did more than  Jackson did but you seem to just crucify Green no matter what he does. Got no support from anyone around him. Booting it up to him against 2 6 ft 5 centre halves when he clearely aint fit wtf do you want him to do. Idiot
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Poor subs. This one definitely on Olly. Our passing continues to be poor. Well played Spokes until the injury.

Tilley way off fitness and What's the point of Starbuck when Bennett is back in the dressing room?

Green? Just retire.
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excrement teams don’t have any luck , good teams have lots of it.
That’s the same In any sport I don’t care how people try and sugar coat it this team is shite
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Agree about Starbuck. Seeing nothing whatsoever from him at all. Might as well have had Sissay on the bench and chucked him up top
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Spokes, Morais, played really well, defence pretty good, we just totally lack a strong player up front to win headers. Green no help from ref but why is he even an option. I assume the new attacker coming in is going to be a quick 5ft10 player again to go with all our other small strikers.
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If we don’t bring in 2 lads who know where the back of the net is and start scoring from the off we’re in big trouble.

Missed a few bits of the stream tonight due to work but for what I saw the lads at least tried hard.


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Did more than  Jackson did but you seem to just crucify Green no matter what he does. Got no support from anyone around him. Booting it up to him against 2 6 ft 5 centre halves when he clearely aint fit wtf do you want him to do. Idiot


Hagrid, Green is not the player he once was, he's got no pace, no touch and shouldn't be on the pitch, to what was a decent player he's a shadow of his former self and offers the team nothing, Gibson won a few headers, pressed the defenders and worked as hard as he could. To be honest, Gibson isn't that great tbh but I cannot stick when your forwards are outwide looking for the ball, they need to be there, in the box, waiting for the ball to come into the melting pot!
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That's football.   Bennet got better, Morais was class despite some quiet periods. Spokes had a good game but should have gone off.  He looked dead on his feet. Town's passing much better as are the crosses but we need a goalscorer who's good with both feet and his head.   A lot of criticism but the players worked hard. That's a big difference than earlier in the season.


Trying hard is not enough.
It needs some quality and experience who are trying hard.
It’s not rocket science.
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A game we didn’t deserve to lose. Two brilliant goals did for us.

Jackson never had any service but looks like our best finisher when he gets chances . I’m not convinced with Gibson at all tbh.
Clifton has great engine but very poor passing ability.

Green should be gone in January along with Hanson, don’t think we are in that bad shape really. Need to get a couple of experience players and get the rest back for like scannell.

We may start getting run of the green eventually.

Don’t forget guys it’s not halfway through the season yet and time to make a few signings so talk of relegation is daft at this point.
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Did more than  Jackson did but you seem to just crucify Green no matter what he does. Got no support from anyone around him. Booting it up to him against 2 6 ft 5 centre halves when he clearely aint fit wtf do you want him to do. Idiot


The only time I ever seem to see your name on here is when I see you crying about Matt Green, he’s awful, as is Gibson. Jackson has popped in 2 goals so deserves a little time but he was poor tonight.

If you think Green or Gibson deserve to play in this side then you deserve to watch the shite they’re serving up.
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The only time I ever seem to see your name on here is when I see you crying about Matt Green, he’s awful, as is Gibson. Jackson has popped in 2 goals so deserves a little time but he was poor tonight.

If you think Green or Gibson deserve to play in this side then you deserve to watch the shite they’re serving up.


Let’s be honest, we had better strikers in non league than we’ve had since.
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The only time I ever seem to see your name on here is when I see you crying about Matt Green, he’s awful, as is Gibson. Jackson has popped in 2 goals so deserves a little time but he was poor tonight.

If you think Green or Gibson deserve to play in this side then you deserve to watch the shite they’re serving up.


You wanna get your eyesight tested then pal.

We’re excrement all over the park. Our bright spot is a man we brought in 2 weeks ago. Its embarrassing to intercourse, but you constantly single out one player when we have good 10/15 who are not fit to wear the shirt
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You wanna get your eyesight tested then pal.

We’re excrement all over the park. Our bright spot is a man we brought in 2 weeks ago. Its embarrassing to intercourse, but you constantly single out one player when we have good 10/15 who are not fit to wear the shirt


Some are just not ever fit.
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Relegation form whilst playing teams in relegation form is a tad concerning. Needs at least 5 better players in that starting line up to even compete. Left back, left midfield, centre mid with creativity and goals and two strikers.
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If you want the truth, I'm pig sick of wasting £20 a week now...I want to be entertained, but right now all I'm doing is getting frustrated with the dog sh!te being served up, yes the boys try hard but we are getting beat by, at best, mediocre teams. No excuses now, either IH sorts this shower out, gets rid of the dead wood and we start playing the football he promised or he packs his bags and leaves. My patience is wearing so thin you can see right through it!
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Jackson can score. Fact.
I remember Michael Owen doing nothing for 89mins. He then scored.
Jackson to start every game. He doesn't get subbed unless they remove him on a stretcher
If we're gonna start launching it, stick Pollock up front. I swear he'll do a better job than any other striker at the club, which says it all.
Hansons had it. Green should have gone a year ago, he isn't good enough for the national league. Well done to him for what he's managed to get off the club - A semi pro would have done as good a job
I'd say stick him in the stand as a ball boy but he's just not quick enough to the ball
Ffs how difficult can it be to pick a team and stick to it. Obvious who needs to play and where
Can't wait to see what we get in jan


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I’m really surprised by how accepting some people are of poor quality and mediocrity. That attitude won’t help us retain our EFL status.

Bradford didn’t even have to get out of second gear to beat us on our own patch. These are the games that we need to be winning.

A loss to Southend and now to Bradford is hugely concerning.


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I’m really surprised by how accepting some people are of poor quality and mediocrity. That attitude won’t help us retain our EFL status.

Bradford didn’t even have to get out of second gear to beat us on our own patch. These are the games that we need to be winning.

A loss to Southend and now to Bradford is hugely concerning.


I think this acceptance of poor/mediocre players, managers, performances and lack off ambition comes from the top and permeated down to a lot of fans.
So the sooner the supreme leader felicitations off the better.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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I think this acceptance of poor/mediocre players, managers, performances and lack off ambition comes from the top and permeated down to a lot of fans.
So the sooner the supreme leader felicitations off the better.


Obviously we have the same keeper as non league but there are several of our last Wembley final team who would walk into this team. Nearly all of them in fact.
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Ira Jackson should start every game until the end of the season (unless injured).
And the team should provide him with chances - simples


Blundell Park - The Home of Grimsby Town Football Club (still)  
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Hewitt's proven himself at centre back so having needed a centre back, we can allocate budget elsewhere if necessary, if not, a pacey centre half needed..

Need a left back, an extremely mobile and combative centre mid and two pacey forwards, all better than we've got already..Fonkeu looks like an upgrade, so that's one in the bank..

Jackson out of his depth..
Gibson a division too high

Get them both loaned out at the very least..

Green not good enough, way past his best, and at his best he was League Two standard anyway..
Hanson a crock

None of those four would get a full-time professional contract anywhere next season, so why are they here?

Pay them off if it helps the budget and send Gomis, Taylor and Morton back if we can..

If we can achieve this and sign upgrades, we'll be ok in this league..
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Quoted from davmariner
I’m really surprised by how accepting some people are of poor quality and mediocrity. That attitude won’t help us retain our EFL status.

Bradford didn’t even have to get out of second gear to beat us on our own patch. These are the games that we need to be winning.

A loss to Southend and now to Bradford is hugely concerning.


I don't think us acceping it or not on here is going to make much difference.

We desperately need a quality league 2 striker to lead the line. I think Gibson or Jackson can do a job as a second striker but they are so raw to play them together. Likewise I think Spokes and Rose could be a decent CM combo with the energy and physicality of Spokes complimented by Rose's experience and calmness (with the exception of a dreadful penalty concession every couple of games). Think the last two games has also shown that Pollock and Waterfall are decent League 2 centre backs but not a partnership. Hewitt has dovetailed nicely with both despite playing out of position just for being more comfortable on the ball and more mobile.  
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Obviously we have the same keeper as non league but there are several of our last Wembley final team who would walk into this team. Nearly all of them in fact.


Im trying to think of how many of our present side would get into that Wembley side. You can make a pretty good case for none.
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Ira Jackson should start every game until the end of the season (unless injured).
And the team should provide him with chances - simples


But we dont create chances
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Send back Gomis, Morton, Taylor and Bennett. Release Hanson, Green, Gibson, Sissay. Replace with four who will be first team starters. Easy said but hopefully Ollie’s red hot phone might call the right numbers in this window.
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But we dont create chances


Hagrid, Morais knocked four great balls across first half and Jackson didn't get across his man once.. Other strikers not on our books would have had the instinct and movement to get to at least two of them..
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Im trying to think of how many of our present side would get into that Wembley side. You can make a pretty good case for none.


I know! Possibly Hendrie and Pollock. Beyond that I’m struggling.
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Hagrid, Morais knocked four great balls across first half and Jackson didn't get across his man once.. Other strikers not on our books would have had the instinct and movement to get to at least two of them..


Thats true. A fit hanson would be on them. But he’s a write off
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Hewitt's proven himself at centre back so having needed a centre back, we can allocate budget elsewhere..

Need a left back, an extremely mobile and combative centre mid and two pacey forwards, all better than we've got already..Fonkeu looks like an upgrade, so that's one in the bank..

Jackson out of his depth..
Gibson a division too high

Get them both loaned out at the very least..

Green not good enough, way past his best, and at his best he was League Two standard anyway..
Hanson a crock

None of those four or Gomis would get a full-time professional contract anywhere next season, so why are they here?

Pay them off if it helps the budget and send Gomis, Taylor and Morton back if we can..

If we can achieve this and sign upgrades, we'll be ok in this league..


A series question.
Is Ben Davies still at the club?


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Quoted from Bigdog
Hewitt's proven himself at centre back so having needed a centre back, we can allocate budget elsewhere..

Need a left back, an extremely mobile and combative centre mid and two pacey forwards, all better than we've got already..Fonkeu looks like an upgrade, so that's one in the bank..

Jackson out of his depth..
Gibson a division too high

Get them both loaned out at the very least..

Green not good enough
Hanson a crock

Pay them off if it helps the budget and send Taylor and Morton back if we can..

If we can achieve this and sign upgrades, we'll be more than ok in this league..


Has Hewitt truly proved himself at CB?

Re the budget loan out Green they’ll be lots of takers at a lower level. Hanson, if you’re going to pay him off make sure it’s a lot less than what he’s got left to earn and put a proviso in place that he can’t sign for another league 2 club this season..... good luck with that as it’s worth nothing to his agent I’d suggest.

Agree about 2 pacy forwards, if you can find two who will sign for us and start banging them in from the off then I reckon you could make a nice side living as an agent. If we found them we’d be lucky.

We need a good hold up player up front and a right goal hanger. What I’ve seen in the last couple of games is we can now get the ball into the box we just need someone to get on the end of it.

Despite Dippy Day saying money is no object for Ollie this is going to be a battle to stay up as there is no way in reality that we can bring in all the quality we need and get them all going at the same time.


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We have played three teams in the bottom 5 in the last fortnight and come away with 1 point out of 9.

Lets' face it. We are the worst team in the country. Again.

Barrow and Stevenage must we wondering when it's their turn to get 3 easy points.
  


It's ok, I can remember reading our tough run of fixtures was nearly over and we had some easy games coming up.........



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Has Hewitt truly proved himself at CB?

Re the budget loan out Green they’ll be lots of takers at a lower level. Hanson, if you’re going to pay him off make sure it’s a lot less than what he’s got left to earn and put a proviso in place that he can’t sign for another league 2 club this season..... good luck with that as it’s worth nothing to his agent I’d suggest.

Agree about 2 pacy forwards, if you can find two who will sign for us and start banging them in from the off then I reckon you could make a nice side living as an agent. If we found them we’d be lucky.

We need a good hold up player up front and a right goal hanger. What I’ve seen in the last couple of games is we can now get the ball into the box we just need someone to get on the end of it.

Despite Dippy Day saying money is no object for Ollie this is going to be a battle to stay up as there is no way in reality that we can bring in all the quality we need and get them all going at the same time.


Big task, but getting eight or nine out to get three, four or five in of better quality has to be the answer.. Up to IH to prove himself in the transfer market..

As for Hewitt. If he can play like he has the past two games, then if money is tight, it would be better spent on forwards..

Like the look of Fonkeu and Morais has proved to be an astute signing, so there's a little bit of hope in me that IH can rectify his mistakes..
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'Release Gibson'. He has another 2.5 years on his contract. I think he could be decent but there is no way he is ready to lead the line now. As a third or fourth choice striker I think he's alright. Far more chance of coming to an arrangement with Green if he can find a half decent non league deal and  we can bang him a couple of months pay to top him up. Green amd Hanson must be a proper drain on the wage bill.
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Did more than  Jackson did but you seem to just crucify Green no matter what he does. Got no support from anyone around him. Booting it up to him against 2 6 ft 5 centre halves when he clearely aint fit wtf do you want him to do. Idiot


You need to calm down a bit. People have a different opinion to you and you brand them idiots yet the minute they disagree with you it is taken as some kind of personal affront. It's a League 2 football forum and it really doesn't matter. We must all be pretty idiotic or we wouldn't waste our time on here.
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You need to calm down a bit. People have a different opinion to you and you brand them idiots yet the minute they disagree with you it is taken as some kind of personal affront. It's a League 2 football forum and it really doesn't matter. We must all be pretty idiotic or we wouldn't waste our time on here.


Not at all. Its more that its constant at 1 player.
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'Release Gibson'. He has another 2.5 years on his contract. I think he could be decent but there is no way he is ready to lead the line now. As a third or fourth choice strtiker I think he's alright. Far more chance of coming to an arrangement with Green if he can find a half decent non league deal and  we can bang him a couple of months pay to top him up. Green amd Hanson must be a proper drain on the wage bill.


Gibson may benefit from playing with a higher standard striking partner.. or at the very least as an impact sub in a team of improved quality..
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Gibson may benefit from playing with a higher standard striking partner.. or at the very least an impact sub in a team of improved quality..


Agree completely. Same with Jackson.
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Agree completely. Same with Jackson.


Matter of opinion but we should be only keeping one. Truth is we haven’t got a decent or fit striker on the books.
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Fenty wont leave and he won't invest the money needed to bring in quality. So on current form we are heading out of the league.

The good news is that we already have a non league squad, so we wont have to make many signings in the summer to prepare for our new status. That will save us a few quid.

Sorry to be so negative but I have had a gut full of this shower of shite. Year after year after year of amateurish mis-management, dreadful PR gaffs, cretinous decision making, and endless false economies.  Year after year of signing dross players no one else wants, crazy disjointed team team selections, a squad of unfit, error prone players, and barmy managers.  And now, to add to the list, the board talking to a convicted con man. Can we get any lower? Any more of an embarrassing laughing stock?


  
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Hagrid, Morais knocked four great balls across first half and Jackson didn't get across his man once.. Other strikers not on our books would have had the instinct and movement to get to at least two of them..


Gibson and Green should be starting to do just that early on when Marais has got the legs, Jackson feeds off doesn’t strike simples
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Can’t disagree with any of that Ron. I genuinely don’t believe Fenty has any intention to leave the club. The club are looking for investment but definitely not new owners. Who in their right mind would invest in a club like ours whilst keeping Fenty, would you?
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Matter of opinion but we should be only keeping one. Truth is we haven’t got a decent or fit striker on the books.


Gibson has 2.5 years on his contract though. So pay lots of money to get rid or pay his wage monthly to have him as back up and see if we can improve him? Imagine you get rid of Hanson and Green in the summer or sooner and we sign a Podge and a Bogle to play up front. Gibson and Jackson as third and fourth choice in League 2 would be fine. They're not the problem. The problem is they're having to be the first choice because those who should be in front of them are knackered.
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Big task, but getting eight or nine out to get three, four or five in of better quality has to be the answer.. Up to IH to prove himself in the transfer market..

As for Hewitt. If he can play like he has the past two games, then if money is tight, it would be better spent on forwards..

Like the look of Fonkeu and Morais has proved to be an astute signing, so there's a little bit of hope in me that IH can rectify his mistakes..


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If fenty dont go he wont have a club for long , i cant see many going if he is there . starting with me , and that includes this season while he is still there
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Its January next week so I reckon we will know a lot more in the first few days. If we are serious about staying up we will have replacements lined up and ready to go.

I think Ollie has made mistakes, although a lot has been forced on him but he wont make the same mistakes twice.

He must be very frustrated at the lack of fitness of his senior strikers who will have to be replaced.

To be fair I thought we actually played a lot better tonight which is a glimmer of hope, but there is absolutely zero upfront.

I think any league quality striker would have been on the end of those Morais crosses, or a top striker from non-league but the ones we signed are not ready for league football yet.
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Its January next week so I reckon we will know a lot more in the first few days. If we are serious about staying up we will have replacements lined up and ready to go.

I think Ollie has made mistakes, although a lot has been forced on him but he wont make the same mistakes twice.

He must be very frustrated at the lack of fitness of his senior strikers who will have to be replaced.

To be fair I thought we actually played a lot better tonight which is a glimmer of hope, but there is absolutely zero upfront.

I think any league quality striker would have been on the end of those Morais crosses, or a top striker from non-league but the ones we signed are not ready for league football yet.


Agree.

If you look at the game tonight..

Our centre halves bossed their forwards..

Our right back was fine our left back was shaky..

Our midfield two outplayed their midfield three..

We generally outplayed them down either side, mainly our right..

We had nothing up front, absolutely no pace, no strength, no movement, no nous..

If we had one striker on the pitch of any quality we'd have won from 2-0 down because Bradford are shockingly shite. They could afford to double up on Morais and Edwards second half because they knew our forwards carried zero danger down the middle...

Still.. didn't deserve to lose, but we're so easily mugged of positive results through lack of firepower..
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Not too down beat after that. I don’t think it will take a lot to turn this around and I am optimistic. None of the forwards are good enough to lead the line but one quality addition will fix that. Defence ok, midfield reasonable. Tilly and Starbuck disappointed me but most were ok. We need to shoot more and we need to win more offensive headers. A couple of signings and this will liven up. Happy Xmas to all utm
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A game we didn’t deserve to lose. Two brilliant goals did for us.

Jackson never had any service but looks like our best finisher when he gets chances . I’m not convinced with Gibson at all tbh.
Clifton has great engine but very poor passing ability.

Green should be gone in January along with Hanson, don’t think we are in that bad shape really. Need to get a couple of experience players and get the rest back for like scannell.

We may start getting run of the green eventually.

Don’t forget guys it’s not halfway through the season yet and time to make a few signings so talk of relegation is daft at this point.



i'm glad you, Zmariner and bigdog were watching the same game as me

McKeown, Hewitt, Waterfall, Pollock, Hendrie - all fine as defensive unit

Morais and Spokes were excellent tonight - Spokes played like he was a regular rather than his third ever pro game
Add in Rose and Clifton who should be fine for this level

Edwards has always got that unknown factor.

Scannell has been good when he's played. Bennett is interesting - I've criticised him as a showpony, but those 15-20 minutes in a more central role showed him in a completely different light. God knows why Holloway took him, and no wonder he was brassed off. He's definitely worth a start in that same position

Up front is the problem - their defenders were just too strong and experienced for us. i actually think Gibson has improved in the last couple of games, but no way can he be first choice. Jackson was dominated tonight but i like the look of him

so there is the basis there.They have got fight and committment and i though they looked very fit tonight - were still getting first to the ball and winning tackles in the last few minutes
undone by 2 great goals and our lack of ability up front

couple of experienced  forwards and a left back (plus maybe another benson?) and i think we will be ok

i would reiterate, imho, it was a pretty good performance (compare and contrast to the southend second half) and we definitely deserved a point



finally don't forget that IH recruited Clark, Glennon, Benson & Grandin, with no lead in, last January
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i'm glad you, Zmariner and bigdog were watching the same game as me

McKeown, Hewitt, Waterfall, Pollock, Hendrie - all fine as defensive unit

Morais and Spokes were excellent tonight - Spokes played like he was a regular rather than his third ever pro game
Add in Rose and Clifton who should be fine for this level

Edwards has always got that unknown factor.

Scannell has been good when he's played. Bennett is interesting - I've criticised him as a showpony, but those 15-20 minutes in a more central role showed him in a completely different light. God knows why Holloway took him, and no wonder he was brassed off. He's definitely worth a start in that same position

Up front is the problem - their defenders were just too strong and experienced for us. i actually think Gibson has improved in the last couple of games, but no way can he be first choice. Jackson was dominated tonight but i like the look of him

so there is the basis there.They have got fight and committment and i though they looked very fit tonight - were still getting first to the ball and winning tackles in the last few minutes
undone by 2 great goals and our lack of ability up front

couple of experienced  forwards and a left back (plus maybe another benson?) and i think we will be ok

i would reiterate, imho, it was a pretty good performance (compare and contrast to the southend second half) and we definitely deserved a point



finally don't forget that IH recruited Clark, Glennon, Benson & Grandin, with no lead in, last January


Funny that, I think the exact opposite. I have just posted on another thread that the Bradford defenders had an easy ride tonight. I also think Gibson is going backwards, no where near like he played at Orient for example.
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Funny that, I think the exact opposite. I have just posted on another thread that the Bradford defenders had an easy ride tonight. I also think Gibson is going backwards, no where near like he played at Orient for example.


didn't see that one so can't comment. i thought initially he was completely out of his depth, but that in the last couple of games it looked like he's learnt a few things, and he actually won half a dozen headers first half against much bigger and more experienced centre halves.
having said that can't disagree with the poster who said that any number of our non league strikers would walk into this present team
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Is the constant chopping and changing impacting on player development too. They can’t get in to any sort of stride, you can play out of your skin but not get a game for two weeks and so on.

For what it’s worth I think Gibson is toilet but then it’s hard to criticise when literally every striker is the same...


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Did anyone think Macca was a bit far off his line for their second goal


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Not for me Swin, what was poor was the lack of tracking to allow the man through on goal
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