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Boris Johnson
September 27, 2020, 11:43am
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I appear to be the odd one out - I didnt agree with most of it.

The situation GTFC are in at the moment cancelling games is down to their own stupidity - allowing someone to enter and leave their "bubble" who was also "bubbbling" away from home so to speak was asking for trouble.

Even if we had a government that had done everything correctly we would still face a massive realignment in consumerism and jobs, Football is probably way down the list of importance, as it should be as the basics of our society are at risk. Just because the EFL is not up to it, it is footballs, and only footballs problem. Remember the club chairmen were happy to attend EFL meetings in exotic locations and support the EFL so they are as much responsible


I agree, Findlater hasnt got a clue what he is talking about
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Must be tiring to be always swimming against the tide Boris.
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I appear to be the odd one out - I didnt agree with most of it.

The situation GTFC are in at the moment cancelling games is down to their own stupidity - allowing someone to enter and leave their "bubble" who was also "bubbbling" away from home so to speak was asking for trouble.

Even if we had a government that had done everything correctly we would still face a massive realignment in consumerism and jobs, Football is probably way down the list of importance, as it should be as the basics of our society are at risk. Just because the EFL is not up to it, it is footballs, and only footballs problem. Remember the club chairmen were happy to attend EFL meetings in exotic locations and support the EFL so they are as much responsible


I think the problem with Findlaters article is that it offers no solutions, probably because there aren't any solutions.Whichever covid road you decide to travel, there are huge problems.

Let fans in we have logistical problems and problems associated with wider communities with lockdown restrictions. Keep fans out, it is a money problem.

I think we have just been unlucky; it could and will happen to a lot of clubs that a player or a manager or groundstaff test positive and every time there is a case it will be different at different clubs and how they deal with it, so whatever decision any club comes up with they will be criticised. It is difficult for the EFL to make rules that apertain to every situation.

We just need keep our minds focused on the football as we don't want to be faced with a nightmare season on the pitch as well as off it.
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James Findlater is very good at taking cheap shots. Yes we all know there are mistakes being made but football is not going to be high on a political agenda. It should be high on the agendas of the governing bodies though. They owe their existence to the clubs, at least the EFL still does. The Pl owes its existence to the PL and the broadcasters.

Morally though, the PL has the biggest duty to football of any organisation including government. It is simply unwilling to dig into the vast sums and backers  to bail out something it is just not bothered about. If every club in L1, L2 downwards went bust tonight, the PL would not bat a collective eyelid. But there is no way to force the PL to do the right thing.


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James Findlater is very good at taking cheap shots. Yes we all know there are mistakes being made but football is not going to be high on a political agenda. It should be high on the agendas of the governing bodies though. They owe their existence to the clubs, at least the EFL still does. The Pl owes its existence to the PL and the broadcasters.

Morally though, the PL has the biggest duty to football of any organisation including government. It is simply unwilling to dig into the vast sums and backers  to bail out something it is just not bothered about. If every club in L1, L2 downwards went bust tonight, the PL would not bat a collective eyelid. But there is no way to force the PL to do the right thing.


It was high on two politicians agendas when they wanted to use it to get face time with their leader in mid week.



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That article is an absolute load of sh.ite .
Lazy , cheap journalism.
Football needs to take a level of responsibility for itself. It’s obvious we shouldn’t be playing in front of empty grounds . It’s a recipe for disaster.
Club owners at L1 and 2 should’ve stood up for themselves and said they weren’t prepared to bankrupt themselves to keep the pyramid going just for the benefit of Sky and the PL !!!!!


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Not in Dowden’s place to tell PL what to do. If pubs are open (indoors), there’s absolutely no reason for football not to go ahead in front of restricted crowds. Crowds are being allowed in across Europe. We need to see the wood for the trees because an effective vaccine could be some way away.
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James Findlater is very good at taking cheap shots. Yes we all know there are mistakes being made but football is not going to be high on a political agenda. It should be high on the agendas of the governing bodies though. They owe their existence to the clubs, at least the EFL still does. The Pl owes its existence to the PL and the broadcasters.

Morally though, the PL has the biggest duty to football of any organisation including government. It is simply unwilling to dig into the vast sums and backers  to bail out something it is just not bothered about. If every club in L1, L2 downwards went bust tonight, the PL would not bat a collective eyelid. But there is no way to force the PL to do the right thing.


The problem with sport and politics is don’t mix them.
We don’t support GTFC or England to make political points. I would expect fans from all political persuasions to support the mariners. The politics of people I sit next to are irrelevant. Think the saying is we are all Town together.
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I had the misfortune to be taught by Lia Nici at East Coast Media, or whatever it was called 18-19 years ago.

She was the most disengaged tutor I'd ever experienced. Never really listened, eye contact was non-existent, basically she gave off a sense that she wasn't even remotely bothered about me, my colleagues or anyone but herself.

So in many ways she was destined to become a Tory MP.

An absolute suck-up to whoever is in charge and she ignored everyone else. That comes across clearer than ever today by the way she looks at Boris.


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I had the misfortune to be taught by Lia Nici at East Coast Media, or whatever it was called 18-19 years ago.

She was the most disengaged tutor I'd ever experienced. Never really listened, eye contact was non-existent, basically she gave off a sense that she wasn't even remotely bothered about me, my colleagues or anyone but herself.

So in many ways she was destined to become a Tory MP.

An absolute suck-up to whoever is in charge and she ignored everyone else. That comes across clearer than ever today by the way she looks at Boris.


Everyone who was ‘taught’ by her has a similar opinion! Some decent tutors there when I was there between 2004 and 2008 and I remember most of them for what they taught. I couldn’t tell you what subjects she did though!
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