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February 13, 2020, 6:05pm Report to Moderator
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Sounds like we could have some good deals on season tickets here next season.    


I’m gonna get a season ticket at Scunny instead. In the away end.
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We should never have sacked Hurst, personally I felt he was doing a solid job and given time he will have got us promoted with the right backing. Whilst his persona was very dull, His recruitment skills definitely couldn't be questioned. Made some good signings. Man management skills, he managed to get KVV performing consistently when other managers couldn't due to his attitude.

Wilcox is the right man short term but certainly not long term. We have been there and done that with him. Either way, under Swann there is a big danger we will fall out of the football league. Grateful for the money he has provided us but he has made us become a sacking club, fallen out with our local council and players. Even the most loyal Scunny fans are starting to boycott games. I am a season ticket holder and won't be renewing it next season until Swann changes his ways or leaves.  UTI


I don't want to worry you but a lot of what you say above was the sort of horrible set variables that led to us having a 10 year downward spiral into the abyss.


Supporting the Mighty Mariners for over 30 years, home town club is were the heart and soul is and it's great to be a part of it.

Jesus’ disciple Peter, picked up a fish to get the tribute money from it, Jesus left his thumb print on the fish, bless'ed is the Haddock.
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. I am a season ticket holder and won't be renewing it next season until Swann changes his ways or leaves.  UTI


Who would be a club owner?

You put literally millions of pounds in, season after season, Get a no hope, poorly supported club into the Championship and give them days out at Wembley and then as soon as you have a poor season or two, the fans want rid. Thanks a pant load.

Scunts need to grasp the fact that the are essentially a bottom division club. Any time spent in the second or third tear is a great achievement, not the norm.

Get real guys. Welcome back to your natural place in the pecking order.
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Who would be a club owner?

You put literally millions of pounds in, season after season, Get a no hope, poorly supported club into the Championship and give them days out at Wembley and then as soon as you have a poor season or two, the fans want rid. Thanks a pant load.

Scunts need to grasp the fact that the are essentially a bottom division club. Any time spent in the second or third tear is a great achievement, not the norm.

Get real guys. Welcome back to your natural place in the pecking order.

Ron, you’re wrong on so many levels, do your research before coming out with a dig like that. Swann has never taken us to the Championship and Swann has never taken us to Wembley. It was under Wharton’s ownership when we achieved all that. Not sure if you read one of my other posts where I said although I am grateful for the money he has spent, the constant sackings and falling out with people is killing us. Always get one idiot don’t you, get your facts right next time.

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I don't want to worry you but a lot of what you say above was the sort of horrible set variables that led to us having a 10 year downward spiral into the abyss.


Thanks for that, already struggling to sleep!
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Must say it is nice for a change to have a Scunny fan on here that wants to have a genuine discussion rather than troll or goad.


Thank you for your kind words, appreciate it. I’m all for the banter but it is good to have a football debate with rival fans. Majority of you lot have surprised me to be honest how friendly you’ve been to say I’m Scunny. I dealt with one idiot called Ron is it? A minority. UTI
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Not sure what the turning point was for Scunny. They seemed to be doing alright under Alexander - admittedly it looked like they'd fallen away from the L1 play-offs - but from my distance that sacking was pretty harsh.

It's not really got going for them since.


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Ron, you’re wrong on so many levels, do your research before coming out with a dig like that. Swann has never taken us to the Championship and Swann has never taken us to Wembley. It was under Wharton’s ownership when we achieved all that. Not sure if you read one of my other posts where I said although I am grateful for the money he has spent, the constant sackings and falling out with people is killing us. Always get one idiot don’t you, get your facts right next time.

UTI


My error on the Wharton stuff, I stand corrected.

The fact remains that Swann has pumped millions in, and the club would not have enjoyed its more recent league status with it.

Let's see where the club ends up if running within its means.
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Not sure what the turning point was for Scunny. They seemed to be doing alright under Alexander - admittedly it looked like they'd fallen away from the L1 play-offs - but from my distance that sacking was pretty harsh.

It's not really got going for them since.


They were still in the play-offs when Graham Alexander was sacked...

28/03/18 - Graham Alexander sacked - Position: 5th (League One)
05/05/18 - End of season Position 5th (League One) LOST IN PLAY-OFF SEMI-FINAL
24/08/18 - Nick Daws sacked - Position: 18th (League One)
24/03/19 - Stuart McCall sacked - Position: 18th (League One)
04/05/19 - End of season Position 23rd (League One) RELEGATED
13/05/19 - Paul Hurst appointed manager
30/01/20 - Paul Hurst sacked - Position 16th (League Two)
TODAY - Position 18th (League Two)

Every managerial decision he has made he got wrong. Be it sacking successful managers or making poor appointments (either poor managers or good managers who are unable to work with his interference).
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My error on the Wharton stuff, I stand corrected.

The fact remains that Swann has pumped millions in, and the club would not have enjoyed its more recent league status with it.

Let's see where the club ends up if running within its means.


It's possible to weigh up the positives (pumping money in) and negatives (creating instability by frequently and unjustly sacking managers, falling out with the local council) under an owner, and conclude that on the whole they're actually not very good. The idea that Scunthorpe would be out of the league without Swann's money is a nonsense. They've got a large enough fanbase to generate enough cash for a competitive League Two budget. The only reason their finances are in such a mess at the moment is because of Swann overspending on excrement players and wasting money paying off managers every 6-12 months.


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