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Northbank Mariner
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I'll ask a question.

Did Jolley really keep us in the league in those last 10 games or was it the Swiss cheese model where all the holes lined up?

Teams around us floundered, whilst we kept getting lucky with penalties. We dint play good football, we didn't score countless goals from open play....

So maybe, just maybe, rather than his magical managerial touch it was pure and simply luck!...

In the same way the Exeter win cane about by stumbling upon a team that played out if necessity, again I point to luck not managerial brilliance.
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I'll ask a question.

Did Jolley really keep us in the league in those last 10 games or was it the Swiss cheese model where all the holes lined up?

Teams around us floundered, whilst we kept getting lucky with penalties. We dint play good football, we didn't score countless goals from open play....

So maybe, just maybe, rather than his magical managerial touch it was pure and simply luck!...

In the same way the Exeter win cane about by stumbling upon a team that played out if necessity, again I point to luck not managerial brilliance.


I presume you pointed this out the season before last when we stayed up.


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I’m going to get shot down for this but intercourse it, if so I’ll try and find a support group for people who’ve been red crossed on a league two football forum.

I’m as drunk off as anyone. But today’s selection clearly wasn’t his first. Macca and Elliott not available. Macca is a big loss obviously. Elliott too, given Hendrie is crocked.


The idea that the only/best option with the players available was to play Cook at right wing-back is laughable. If anything it perfectly encapsulates Jolley’s major flaw. He chooses a system and then fits the players he has in around that even if it means lots of square pegs in round holes. Another example is how he inexplicably decided to spend all last pre-season practising 352 with a squad that didn’t have anyone capable of playing left wing-back.

The best managers make a team so that it’s greater than the sum of its parts. They play to the strengths of their players and try to minimise their weaknesses as a team through the formation/tactics they employ. Ironically this is is exactly what he did when he kept us up and is why I thought he would do well for us. Sadly, he hasn’t done it since. I think Jolley thinks he’s smarter than he actually is when it comes to tactics and unfortunately doesn’t seem to have learnt anything from the numerous lessons he’s had in 18 months. And sadly, little sign of progress as a manager and definitely not getting the most out of this squad so you have to question why we should give him any longer.


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I presume you pointed this out the season before last when we stayed up.


As it happens, yes I did...
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What a awful scrappy game of football , the die hards who go every week need medals if that’s what’s being dished up regularly. I think the pressure will mount on MJ and I can see him off loaded turn of the year.
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Where's the 'We should never have employed him' option?

Irrelevant, just like you.
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Do you know my analogy of Jolley...he's a morph of Bignott and Slade.... Bignott could see a player, but tactically frigging useless and Slade just knew one way...smash it upfield and hope to pick up the pieces. ..all sounds too familiar to me right now..


I thought Bigmott was a good appointment. Well I was wrong but you can't say he could see a player. What level are all his signings playing at? Slade had even one way, I don't think.
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The idea that the only/best option with the players available was to play Cook at right wing-back is laughable. If anything it perfectly encapsulates Jolley’s major flaw. He chooses a system and then fits the players he has in around that even if it means lots of square pegs in round holes. Another example is how he inexplicably decided to spend all last pre-season practising 352 with a squad that didn’t have anyone capable of playing left wing-back.

The best managers make a team so that it’s greater than the sum of its parts. They play to the strengths of their players and try to minimise their weaknesses as a team through the formation/tactics they employ. Ironically this is is exactly what he did when he kept us up and is why I thought he would do well for us. Sadly, he hasn’t done it since. I think Jolley thinks he’s smarter than he actually is when it comes to tactics and unfortunately doesn’t seem to have learnt anything from the numerous lessons he’s had in 18 months. And sadly, little sign of progress as a manager and definitely not getting the most out of this squad so you have to question why we should give him any longer.


If you listen to is RH interview he claimed Pollock was playing RB I’m no tactician but to me it looked like 3 at the back.

The personnel in the squad  yesterday could have easily gone 4-3-3 and considering we where at home you should be more offensive than your visitors.

I think the squad is o.k for this level but I’m not convinced the players are adaptable enough to fit into an ever changing system.


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I thought Bigmott was a good appointment. Well I was wrong but you can't say he could see a player. What level are all his signings playing at? Slade had even one way, I don't think.


What level are all of the players we've signed since returning to the EFL? From memory only one permanent signing is playing at a higher level, Danny Andrew. That's a pretty damning indictment that can't be laid at one manager's door..
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Tell him to read the Fishy for some sensible tips ' cos I reckon he must be a very "stubborn " man
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