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November 12, 2019, 11:56am Report to Moderator
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The problem is that as a manager it is very hard to backtrack and re-boot or whatever the current jargon is. Once the players have got lost in a maze of different formations and tactics from the boss it is almost impossible for that boss to clear their minds of crap and redeem the situation. We saw this identical issue with Bignott where he lost the plot but at least he was trying to win games, not trying to not lose them!

Ironically the only recent manager to do a successful about turn on tactics and selection was Slade Mk 1. When he come from Scarborough he made that first season’s side play 3-5-2 with a bit of success but then he changed it to 5-3-2 with Reddy up front the next year and we should have gone up.



Yes I touched on that in an earlier post - once you start to tinker you simply cannot stop. A bit like opening a pack of pringles.

Obviously you cannot go on forever keeping the same team if it is not winning, but you have to give them several games to try to establish a pattern, whilst making the odd change due to circumstance.

I thought the team he put out against Mansfield was our best current 11, but there was absolutely no desire, no will to win no fire in the belly and to me that is our biggest problem. You won't get anywhere with the budget we spend in division 4 unless you have a fierce win at all costs mentality to make up for the lack of quality that the other teams can buy.
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One things for sure, we will not survive on 2000 gates so something needs to happen and fast.
Whatever we are doing or not, isn't good enough over to you Mr Jolly
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Quoted from Garth
One things for sure, we will not survive on 2000 gates so something needs to happen and fast.
Whatever we are doing or not, isn't good enough over to you Mr Jolly


Will he listen Garth ? he knows what he is doing its just the players and the fans that have no idea what he is talking about.


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Quoted from Abdul19
*3-4-3/3-4-1-2/3-5-2 then 4-4-2


I think the only way for us to be successful is  4-4-4-4 and even then he wouldn't play wingers
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The problem is that as a manager it is very hard to backtrack and re-boot or whatever the current jargon is. Once the players have got lost in a maze of different formations and tactics from the boss it is almost impossible for that boss to clear their minds of crap and redeem the situation. We saw this identical issue with Bignott where he lost the plot but at least he was trying to win games, not trying to not lose them!

Ironically the only recent manager to do a successful about turn on tactics and selection was Slade Mk 1. When he come from Scarborough he made that first season’s side play 3-5-2 with a bit of success but then he changed it to 5-3-2 with Reddy up front the next year and we should have gone up.



We definitely didn't play 5-3-2 the year we should have gone up.

                         Mildenhall
McDermott   R.Jones    Whittle   Newey
Cohen     Bolland            Toner     Parkinson
                 G. Jones     Reddy

Was our most common line up. Sometimes Toner was replaced by Kalala/Woodhouse but it was still 4-4-2.


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Yes I touched on that in an earlier post - once you start to tinker you simply cannot stop. A bit like opening a pack of pringles.

Obviously you cannot go on forever keeping the same team if it is not winning, but you have to give them several games to try to establish a pattern, whilst making the odd change due to circumstance.

I thought the team he put out against Mansfield was our best current 11, but there was absolutely no desire, no will to win no fire in the belly and to me that is our biggest problem. You won't get anywhere with the budget we spend in division 4 unless you have a fierce win at all costs mentality to make up for the lack of quality that the other teams can buy.


I’ve no idea why that would get 3 red crosses and think that’s absolutely right.


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Quoted from diehardmariner
It was definitely a back 3.  Cook and Gibson as wing-backs.  

Cook isn't a wide player, never mind a wing-back so he was dragged all over the shop.  Hence why Pollock was shifting across to cover.  


Started as a 4-4-2 ;

Gibson, Ohman, Waterfall, Pollock
Robson Whitehouse Hess Cook
             Hanson  Green

Robson and Whitehouse swapped at some point in the first half.

God knows on the second half.. 9-0-1 ???


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Started as a 4-4-2 ;

Gibson, Ohman, Waterfall, Pollock
Robson Whitehouse Hess Cook
             Hanson  Green

Robson and Whitehouse swapped at some point in the first half.

God knows on the second half.. 9-0-1 ???

It definitely started with pollock in a back 3. Maybe he wasn't supposed to but that's where he was playing. Did develop into more 442 later in the first half but even then he wasn't in an orthodox right back position.

Quite damning of jolley really as he had davis who has played as an ok right back when required before.
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It's taken you 3days 4hours and 23minutes from game ending to getting back home
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It's taken you 3days 4hours and 23minutes from game ending to getting back home


Have you been on our local bus service  
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