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smokey111
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Well articulated Rik.
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Quoted from golfer


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I think this thread is in danger of heading off in the wrong direction with some of the comments being made

I'm not sure why the OP would have raised the issue but I guess it's a legitimate question for the times we live in

Would we support a gay player at the club? We may have had one already for all any of us know ( maybe not ) but as some people have said "give your best when playing for the badge on the front of the shirt and we will give our support to the name on the back"

I really wouldn't care less if we had someone straight or gay stepping up to score a goal that got us promoted through a penalty shoot out for example.... his sexuality should really have nothing to do with his professional ability

It will take a brave man to out himself in the football world though.... there are still lots of homophobes out there and if we had a player who wasn't seeming to be quite good enough ( and lots of fans do have their scapegoats ) and it became public knowledge he was gay, I don't think it would be too long before there'd be some negative outbursts from the stands ( but on the otherhand, I'd like to think there would be plenty who would put down any dissent too)

I raised this because of what Gavin Thomas went through. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/nov/18/gareth-thomas-victim-homophobic-attack-cardiff-wales
He's raised the issue about football and homophobia. I was also fed up with Jolley out threads.
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I don't agree or at least  a current player would admit they were gay if that were true. Racism still exists on the terraces.
I must say I have heard no racist chants/language at Blundell Park for many years. I remember bananas thrown on the pitch and not for cramp. Didn't a player leave Town because of alleged racism from a few fans at an away match.


Yes, and he was lying.
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Toto Nsiala got it at Halifax. There will always be a few morons but by and large things have come a long way I believe.

There is still work to do and will be for quite some time most likely, but whereas racism has been deemed unacceptable by society for quite some time lbgqt issues possibly lacked behind. But I believe attitudes have changed and homophobia now frowned upon to a similar extent racism is.

Football has always been a very testosterone filled 'man's man' world and as such perhaps lacking behind society in general but if footballer's were to be brave enough to come out I believe any initial targeting would be quickly highlighted in the press etc and swiftly clamped down on.

But as with racism, like I said there will always be that minority to contend with but as this thread shows with people saying as such, many normal supporters would no longer tolerate such rhetoric.

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Did Toto lie though? As chance had it I (fortunately?) missed that Halifax away game despite having planned to go but seem to remember onlookers on here who attended confirming there was indeed racial slurs thrown.

This was many months before Toto decided to leave, I listened on radio and the atmosphere was toxic, it certainly wouldn't surprise me if the racist elements found a platform in all that.

I can first hand attest to Wes Thomas being on the receiving end of a torrent of racist abuse along the touchline that forgettable day at Lincoln when all the hoollies spilled onto the pitch... I was just behind them within earshot and I felt uncomfortable, must have been hell for him. But that went unreported.
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