Just say we find a 20 a season striker, but.... he's openly gay would it make a difference to how us supporters would view him?
On the other hand a striker takes a penalty hits it down the middle, McKeown saves with his legs and the follow up shot balloons over, the penalty taker is openly gay. Will he receive homophobic chants?

What are the views on gay footballers?

How random.

Doesnt make a difference at all. Unfortunately the abuse he would recieve would be horrendous. Personally couldnt care less if a player of ours was gay. I have friends who are openly gay and colleagues who are gay.

I don't have a view I do not care if they are gay , black, yellow 9ft tall or 3ft tall,

All I care about is do they want to play for us and always give 100%.

They do not have to be world beaters just  give their all for the shirt.

Quoted from 140067

Just say we find a 20 a season striker, but.... he's openly gay would it make a difference to how us supporters would view him?
On the other hand a striker takes a penalty hits it down the middle, McKeown saves with his legs and the follow up shot balloons over, the penalty taker is openly gay. Will he receive homophobic chants?

What are the views on gay footballers?

It’s 2019... this shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation!

Bizarre thread.

Quoted from thefish

It’s 2019... this shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation!

... and I don’t mean because we won’t find a 20-goal striker!

Well as there are no openly gay footballers these scenarios not likely to happen any time soon.

Should any ever come out I'd imagine they'd face stick from the stands initially until it was clamped down on by the authorities with banning orders etc as is the case with racist chanting and there would probably need to be an ongoing 'kick it out' equivalent educational campaign.

But yeah, random thread 😂

Wouldnt be a issue either way for me, if one of my fellow supporters was shouting homophobic abuse I would say something to them just as I would if they where shouting Racist abuse.

What the intercourse!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

In the second scenario and the gay striker ballooned the ball over the bar, in that moment I’m sure the fans would say something like ‘haha you insert expletive here’

Whether that can be deemed as homophobic I’m not sure.

An opposing player has made a mistake and will receive personal ridicule wether he’a fat, tall, black, gay, ginger, blond, from another county,  from another country, short......that’s life on terraces.

Yes it does matter

It matters because they are in a town shirt not another teams.

As the old adage goes: play for the team on the front, and we will support the name on the back

A lot of people saying that "they'd unfortunately get a lot of stick from the stands". As fans we all have a responsibility to call this out and make the bigots who would do this kind of thing feel as stupid and narrow minded as they should be. I was disappointed that the twitter profile which claimed to be a gay footballer coming out turned out to be a hoax as this could have been a ground breaking moment for our sport. At least 10% of the population identify as LGBTQ so it's a real shame to me that there are a significant number of footballers who are living their lives unable to be open about who they are. The sooner this changes the better!

Quoted from somersetmariner

In the second scenario and the gay striker ballooned the ball over the bar, in that moment I’m sure the fans would say something like ‘haha you insert expletive here’

Whether that can be deemed as homophobic I’m not sure.

An opposing player has made a mistake and will receive personal ridicule wether he’a fat, tall, black, gay, ginger, blond, from another county,  from another country, short......that’s life on terraces.

Edited to what is acceptable "top banter" from life on the terraces.

Quoted from gtfc98

At least 10% of the population identify as LGBTQ so it's a real shame to me that there are a significant number of footballers who are living their lives unable to be open about who they are. The sooner this changes the better!

And how many of those are actually gay etc  from that denomination? It was proven that people are jumping on the bandwagon because it's trendy to be part of this at the moment. Shocking, but true

I mean, people are identifying themselves as broccoli and fu(king caterpillars!

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

And how many of those are actually gay etc  from that denomination? It was proven that people are jumping on the bandwagon because it's trendy to be part of this at the moment. Shocking, but true

I mean, people are identifying themselves as broccoli and fu(king caterpillars!

That's ridiculous. Why would anyone "jump on the bandwagon"? Don't believe everything Piers Morgan says the guy is a thundercunt.

Quoted from 140067

Just say we find a 20 a season striker, but.... he's openly gay would it make a difference to how us supporters would view him?
On the other hand a striker takes a penalty hits it down the middle, McKeown saves with his legs and the follow up shot balloons over, the penalty taker is openly gay. Will he receive homophobic chants?

What are the views on gay footballers?

WTF are you on? And are you inferring Tuesdays Cambridge penalty taker was gay?

When you go back after half term get your teacher to give you more homework to keep you busy

Quoted from thefish

It’s 2019... this shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation!

Yes it is 2019, how many footballers come out as gay. 2019 and racism is rife.

Quoted from Ipswin

WTF are you on? And are you inferring Tuesdays Cambridge penalty taker was gay?

When you go back after half term get your teacher to give you more homework to keep you busy

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Ipswin my dear ^ old thing, patronising as ever, come out with something better than your usual line of "do more homework. Sounds like you didn't do much homework as you've not got much imagination or
             Very
intellect ^ old chap. Much love and kisses.

He's had a novel published though...

Quoted from 140067

. Much love and kisses.

Does this perhaps explain your fascination with gay footballers?

Quoted from grimsby pete

I don't have a view I do not care if they are gay , black, yellow 9ft tall or 3ft tall,

All I care about is do they want to play for us and always give 100%.

They do not have to be world beaters just  give their all for the shirt.

I don’t want a 9ft striker Pete, we’d just hit it long all the time.... :)

Quoted from grimsby pete

I don't have a view I do not care if they are gay , black, yellow 9ft tall or 3ft tall,

All I care about is do they want to play for us and always give 100%.

They do not have to be world beaters just  give their all for the shirt.

We came close once Pete...... with Gordon Walker and Dave Boylen  ;)

Quoted from lee65

I don’t want a 9ft striker Pete, we’d just hit it long all the time.... :)

At the moment, I think we would with the 3ft one too!

Quoted from 140067

Just say we find a 20 a season striker, but.... he's openly gay would it make a difference to how us supporters would view him?
On the other hand a striker takes a penalty hits it down the middle, McKeown saves with his legs and the follow up shot balloons over, the penalty taker is openly gay. Will he receive homophobic chants?

What are the views on gay footballers?

Does it make a difference if the gay striker (good drag name *writes down*) only gets 10 goals in a season?

I've seen some crap on here but this must be the worst post I've seen
The penalty takers sexuality is irrelevant- why would you want to insinuate what it is on a public forum.
Surely this whole thread should be removed

Quoted from Ipswin

Does this perhaps explain your fascination with gay footballers?

Ipswin ducky, are love and kisses only in the domain of gay people, oh, you must have a sad life. There you go stereotyping again.
Well I'll send you a little love x Does that make you feel better?

Quoted from nightrider

I've seen some crap on here but this must be the worst post I've seen
The penalty takers sexuality is irrelevant- why would you want to insinuate what it is on a public forum.
Surely this whole thread should be removed

It was a scenario, nothing to do with anyone living or dead. Take a look at the link I posted.

Quoted from 140067

Just say we find a 20 a season striker, but.... he's openly gay would it make a difference to how us supporters would view him?
On the other hand a striker takes a penalty hits it down the middle, McKeown saves with his legs and the follow up shot balloons over, the penalty taker is openly gay. Will he receive homophobic chants?

What are the views on gay footballers?

May I reply on behalf of FFS.

FOR felicitations SAKE .

Looks like a few heterosexuals have had their feathers ruffled? I thought I'd introduce something different rather than How long has Jolly got ? Who should replace him? What to do next? VAR!
This has become a recent issue re Gareth Thomas and the diabolical way a reporter announced to his parents he was HIV positive.
Oh well back to my homework and revision for my O levels. :-/

What an utterly ridiculous post.

I don't see why or where any feathers have been ruffled and I don't know of the Gary Thomas affair and/or fail to see what the strange original post has to do with anything.

Lots of people have said they tolerant of homosexuals, wouldn't shout abuse and would even tell others to shut up... The Fishy is not so PC that a little light banter on sexual preferences is deemed unacceptable , nobody here I'm sure would identify as being anti-gay or racist.

Seems like OP a homosexual who easily butthurt (no pun intended) at the slightest little joke on the matter. Now coming out here, even hidden behind a keyboard, would be a first I believe and perhaps a step forward?

Quoted from Hagrid

Doesnt make a difference at all. Unfortunately the abuse he would recieve would be horrendous. Personally couldnt care less if a player of ours was gay. I have friends who are openly gay and colleagues who are gay.

I really don't think it would. Nobody cares anymore.

We should be so fortunate to find a striker who can score 20 goals a season first.

I would be happy to see Town sign Julian Clary if he could score 20 a season........but if it was only 19 he gould fxxk off back to Hampstead Heath😉

Such a bizarre thread!!!!

Quoted from friskneymariner

What an utterly ridiculous post.

No more ridiculous than how many games has jolly got. At least it is a relevant thread. Got a few thinking about something different. Pro pan colectomy avoids the bottom
.

Quoted from Rik e B

Well as there are no openly gay footballers these scenarios not likely to happen any time soon.

What about the lad who plays for Clee?

Quoted from 140067

Just say we find a 20 a season striker, but.... he's openly gay would it make a difference to how us supporters would view him?
On the other hand a striker takes a penalty hits it down the middle, McKeown saves with his legs and the follow up shot balloons over, the penalty taker is openly gay. Will he receive homophobic chants?

What are the views on gay footballers?

Have you told your mum and dad yet ?

We've Charles Vernam. Not sure which bus he's on but I'd suggest it's hairy pie central. But if you play him centrally in a 4-4-2 alongside a target man like Hanson and actually give him some service then he would bag your 20 goals by Christmas with another 20 to come.

Quoted from moosey_club

Have you told your mum and dad yet ?

Mum and dad dead. Mum just died recently but thank you very much for your concern.

Quoted from fishboyUTM

We've Charles Vernam. Not sure which bus he's on but I'd suggest it's hairy pie central. But if you play him centrally in a 4-4-2 alongside a target man like Hanson and actually give him some service then he would bag your 20 goals by Christmas with another 20 to come.

Yeah. I'm surprised Southgate hasn't picked Vernam yet.

Quoted from Azimuth

Wouldnt be a issue either way for me, if one of my fellow supporters was shouting homophobic abuse I would say something to them just as I would if they where shouting Racist abuse.

Same here..
Unless he was bigger than me ((which most people are 😂))

Seriously though what a redicilous thread.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

What about the lad who plays for Clee?

Wasn't aware, I guess I mean no high profile players

Don't mind Homosexuals at all but like it rammed in me face at every opportunity screaming they are gay, so flipping what i'm not but i don't feel the need to tell the world and play on it my entire life!
Total respect to those who go about life in quietly getting on with things rather than telling the world where they like to park their sausage on an evening.

Same as this transgender malarkey, sorry but there's balls or muff. nothing else.
Just old school me. not prejudiced

Is this guy signing or what?

Quoted from monkeyboy

Don't mind Homosexuals at all but like it rammed in me face at every opportunity screaming they are gay, so flipping what i'm not but i don't feel the need to tell the world and play on it my entire life!

They only do this if they fancy you.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Yeah. I'm surprised Southgate hasn't picked Vernam yet.

I believe Southgate was due to be in the stand last Saturday.

Quoted from monkeyboy

Don't mind Homosexuals at all but like it rammed in me face at every opportunity screaming they are gay, so flipping what i'm not but i don't feel the need to tell the world and play on it my entire life!
Total respect to those who go about life in quietly getting on with things rather than telling the world where they like to park their sausage on an evening.

Same as this transgender malarkey, sorry but there's balls or muff. nothing else.
Just old school me. not prejudiced

I saw a couple of raving transexuals a few weeks back, in a wheelbarrow screaming and flashing their 'mammaries' outside the old Dolphin, near the roundabout in Meggis. I just thought, okay you're a transexual, just get on with it. I genuinely think they had become frustrated that nobody actually cares anymore so wanted to do something outrageous to ruffle the hetros feathers and stir them up. Probably so they could scream 'ism' at them! They clearly like the attention.

Quoted from monkeyboy

Don't mind Homosexuals at all but like it rammed in me face at every opportunity

Make your mind up. ( or was it a Freudian slip 😉😍😍)

I think The Onion said it best:

https://www.theonion.com/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-member-1819583529

Well, I thought it was funny. :)

I think this thread is in danger of heading off in the wrong direction with some of the comments being made

I'm not sure why the OP would have raised the issue but I guess it's a legitimate question for the times we live in

Would we support a gay player at the club? We may have had one already for all any of us know ( maybe not ) but as some people have said "give your best when playing for the badge on the front of the shirt and we will give our support to the name on the back"

I really wouldn't care less if we had someone straight or gay stepping up to score a goal that got us promoted through a penalty shoot out for example.... his sexuality should really have nothing to do with his professional ability

It will take a brave man to out himself in the football world though.... there are still lots of homophobes out there and if we had a player who wasn't seeming to be quite good enough ( and lots of fans do have their scapegoats ) and it became public knowledge he was gay, I don't think it would be too long before there'd be some negative outbursts from the stands ( but on the otherhand, I'd like to think there would be plenty who would put down any dissent too)

Say what you want but if you could ask Justin Fashanu about the damage of coming out as a footballer you would get answer you wouldn't want to hear, not only ruined his career but the Sh!te he had ensure after that cost him his life too ..sad, sad alpha make environment where diversity is still shunned upon...

Quoted from Maringer

I think The Onion said it best:

https://www.theonion.com/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-member-1819583529

Well, I thought it was funny. :)

Was it you who wrote it ?

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Say what you want but if you could ask Justin Fashanu about the damage of coming out as a footballer you would get answer you wouldn't want to hear, not only ruined his career but the Sh!te he had ensure after that cost him his life too ..sad, sad alpha make environment where diversity is still shunned upon...

Excellent point.

In all seriousness, the way attitudes to mental health and racism have changed in this country over the last 20 years I don't feel the first openly homosexual footballer would be crucified, as many anticipate.

Genuine question, when did any fans last hear monkey chants at a Town game?

Quoted from smokey111

In all seriousness, the way attitudes to mental health and racism have changed in this country over the last 20 years I don't feel the first openly homosexual footballer would be crucified, as many anticipate.

Genuine question, when did any fans last hear monkey chants at a Town game?

I don't agree or at least  a current player would admit they were gay if that were true. Racism still exists on the terraces.
I must say I have heard no racist chants/language at Blundell Park for many years. I remember bananas thrown on the pitch and not for cramp. Didn't a player leave Town because of alleged racism from a few fans at an away match.

I think we will see a player 'come out' within the next couple of years.

Like it or not Town fans had/have a reputation for being particularly racist over the years. I personally haven't heard any monkey chants for a long while, although I am aware of the odd isolated incident.

Contrary to what this government would like to manipulate, attitudes to minorities groups in society have massively improved.

Quoted from 140067

I don't agree or at least  a current player would admit they were gay if that were true. Racism still exists on the terraces.
I must say I have heard no racist chants/language at Blundell Park for many years. I remember bananas thrown on the pitch and not for cramp. Didn't a player leave Town because of alleged racism from a few fans at an away match.

Supposedly

Toto Nsiala got it at Halifax. There will always be a few morons but by and large things have come a long way I believe.

There is still work to do and will be for quite some time most likely, but whereas racism has been deemed unacceptable by society for quite some time lbgqt issues possibly lacked behind. But I believe attitudes have changed and homophobia now frowned upon to a similar extent racism is.

Football has always been a very testosterone filled 'man's man' world and as such perhaps lacking behind society in general but if footballer's were to be brave enough to come out I believe any initial targeting would be quickly highlighted in the press etc and swiftly clamped down on.

But as with racism, like I said there will always be that minority to contend with but as this thread shows with people saying as such, many normal supporters would no longer tolerate such rhetoric.

Well articulated Rik.

Quoted from golfer

Supposedly

Alleged!

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

I think this thread is in danger of heading off in the wrong direction with some of the comments being made

I'm not sure why the OP would have raised the issue but I guess it's a legitimate question for the times we live in

Would we support a gay player at the club? We may have had one already for all any of us know ( maybe not ) but as some people have said "give your best when playing for the badge on the front of the shirt and we will give our support to the name on the back"

I really wouldn't care less if we had someone straight or gay stepping up to score a goal that got us promoted through a penalty shoot out for example.... his sexuality should really have nothing to do with his professional ability

It will take a brave man to out himself in the football world though.... there are still lots of homophobes out there and if we had a player who wasn't seeming to be quite good enough ( and lots of fans do have their scapegoats ) and it became public knowledge he was gay, I don't think it would be too long before there'd be some negative outbursts from the stands ( but on the otherhand, I'd like to think there would be plenty who would put down any dissent too)

I raised this because of what Gavin Thomas went through. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/nov/18/gareth-thomas-victim-homophobic-attack-cardiff-wales
He's raised the issue about football and homophobia. I was also fed up with Jolley out threads.

Quoted from 140067

I don't agree or at least  a current player would admit they were gay if that were true. Racism still exists on the terraces.
I must say I have heard no racist chants/language at Blundell Park for many years. I remember bananas thrown on the pitch and not for cramp. Didn't a player leave Town because of alleged racism from a few fans at an away match.

Yes, and he was lying.

Quoted from Rik e B

Toto Nsiala got it at Halifax. There will always be a few morons but by and large things have come a long way I believe.

There is still work to do and will be for quite some time most likely, but whereas racism has been deemed unacceptable by society for quite some time lbgqt issues possibly lacked behind. But I believe attitudes have changed and homophobia now frowned upon to a similar extent racism is.

Football has always been a very testosterone filled 'man's man' world and as such perhaps lacking behind society in general but if footballer's were to be brave enough to come out I believe any initial targeting would be quickly highlighted in the press etc and swiftly clamped down on.

But as with racism, like I said there will always be that minority to contend with but as this thread shows with people saying as such, many normal supporters would no longer tolerate such rhetoric.

Good post.
(coolp)(thx)

Did Toto lie though? As chance had it I (fortunately?) missed that Halifax away game despite having planned to go but seem to remember onlookers on here who attended confirming there was indeed racial slurs thrown.

This was many months before Toto decided to leave, I listened on radio and the atmosphere was toxic, it certainly wouldn't surprise me if the racist elements found a platform in all that.

I can first hand attest to Wes Thomas being on the receiving end of a torrent of racist abuse along the touchline that forgettable day at Lincoln when all the hoollies spilled onto the pitch... I was just behind them within earshot and I felt uncomfortable, must have been hell for him. But that went unreported.