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denni266
October 13, 2019, 8:39am Report to Moderator

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I think you should step back and take a look in the mirror Mr Jolly.. You blame the team for playing bad... take a look at how you set them up with one slow center mid on one wing .. he didnt stand a chance . and another  center mid / striker on the other wing .. played a fullback on the wrong side.. dropped another better full back for what reason ???????... You find a winning formula and change it  every time.. That was a disgrace yesterday what you sent out to play and you blame them.. we are not as thick as you think we are . stop playing your fav players and play them that work.. Look over your shoulder because Hurst is coming to overtake you , and it will be them that have a look at who is below us again thread
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At least get his flipping name right.
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Centre.....not center (unless you are a yanker)

I can understand you feel aggrieved, we all do as supporters. I wasn't even there and I get p1ssed off. But, the manager made the decision, the result has gone, and, hopefully, the troops regroup and we get a more positive result against Leyton orient next week.


All I needed was the love you gave

All I needed for another day

And all I ever knew

Was ogbu


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Centre.....not center (unless you are a yanker)

I can understand you feel aggrieved, we all do as supporters. I wasn't even there and I get p1ssed off. But, the manager made the decision, the result has gone, and, hopefully, the troops regroup and we get a more positive result against Leyton orient next week.


Unfortunately Woz, whilst I see where you are coming from they(the management) have had 2 games since the Mansfield loss to get the group going again and fell short both times ..
As we know winning is a confidence thing, early on in the those first few games there was a buzz running through the squad and the town but I feel after these last 3 games, albeit one in the tinpot cup, the performances have dropped below an acceptable level, so now to get that winning mentality back into the group is fast becoming an uphill battle, unless MJ & Co can turn this round next Saturday/Tuesday then I actually fear we'll be slipping down that table at an alarming rate of knots..
God knows I want this team/squad/manager to succeed but any early optimism I had is quickly ebbing away...
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Actually, despite Denni’s known opposition to MJ, the majority of this post is correct and difficult to argue with,

Defensively we have options but Gibson deserves to be playing at the minute and on current form Hewitt is playing better than Hendrie although I am comfortable with whichever of these players right back. Waterfall has proved a decent signing and again Davis or Pollock alongside him should give us a decent back four.

Going forwards MJ needs to identify his plan A, with most of us wanting pace at the forefront of this, and Plan B, which should be making use of Hanson’s aerial ability. Of course with the right selection Plan A will incorporate Plan B but with crosses from the byline or at least alongside the penalty area rather than from deep as at present.

Midfield is a problem but Hess is a must and whilst Robson a little inconsistent he should be on the left and I would put Clifton in. Again Harry not had best start to the season but he has high energy levels, gets around the pitch and should be encouraged to get in the opposition box more often.

Up front Wright is a must when fit but who else? Rose and Ogbu did the business at Exeter so this formation should be tried again. That would mean omitting Hanson and Green which after 5 games into the season would be unthinkable but it is a squad game and all players will get there chance and if Hanson gets the nod before Ogbu I would like to see Rose playing alongside Hanson rather than our current policy of deploying our front three across the pitch and totally isolated from each other.

A decision also needs to be made on Vernam, flatters to deceive IMO, but if he is to stay with the club he needs a run of games and if town are not going to provide this get him out on loan, with Cardwell, to try and build their confidence.

In closing I would reiterate what I said last week we are two quality L2 players, one in midfield and one up front, from having a very competitive team at this level. What we also need is an ability to take the game to the opposition and not rely on counter attacks, particularly at home.

The remainder of this season will demonstrate if MJ has that ability we all want him to possess and there is improvements this season, but our historical ability to gift 3 points to teams having bad runs still continues as per results at Salford and Stevenage and a miracle escape at Oldham.

Still lots to work on but foundations are in place.
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I think you should step back and take a look in the mirror Mr Jolly.. You blame the team for playing bad... take a look at how you set them up with one slow center mid on one wing .. he didnt stand a chance . and another  center mid / striker on the other wing .. played a fullback on the wrong side.. dropped another better full back for what reason ???????... You find a winning formula and change it  every time.. That was a disgrace yesterday what you sent out to play and you blame them.. we are not as thick as you think we are . stop playing your fav players and play them that work.. Look over your shoulder because Hurst is coming to overtake you , and it will be them that have a look at who is below us again thread


Agree with the first 3 lines but the rest is bollllox
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Agree with the first 3 lines but the rest is bollllox


you are entitled to your opinion  
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The main thing about yesterday was we made a team that was bottom of the league without a win to.their name look fairly good yet only two weeks ago we beat the team that was top of the lesgue.

I like MJ but he will never make it as a. Manager unless he discovers L2  players can not adapt to playing a different formation every week they are playing L2 for a reason and no forward thinking idea's from a manager with high qualifications can turn them into something they are not.

He has got a decent squad of players that can do a good job if he plays them in their best positions and we will have a bit of success this season if he stops changing things from week to week or he will just lose the great fans that follow this club all over the country because he will just keep doing the same old thing of winning a few followed by losing a few and constantly  disappointing the faithful.


                           Over 32 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
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I don't mind the Plan A of using Hanson too much. The problem is that we just don't play it well enough. The service in to him is terrible and we don't have players around him to pick up the pieces because the midfield are deep and we're lacking in pace. I think Jolley was hoping for a Hanson/Green partnership to really click but it has been the opposite as they are rarely close enough to each other to link up.
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I don't mind the Plan A of using Hanson too much. The problem is that we just don't play it well enough. The service in to him is terrible and we don't have players around him to pick up the pieces because the midfield are deep and we're lacking in pace. I think Jolley was hoping for a Hanson/Green partnership to really click but it has been the opposite as they are rarely close enough to each other to link up.


I was really impressed with Green's workrate in the first few home games but that's about where it ends with him isn't it? He doesn't have the pace of Ogbu, Wright, Rose or even Vernam and we've watched enough L2 and non league football over the last 10 years to know how lower league defenders struggle with attackers with pace. Play with Hanson as a fulcrum by all means but play the right players round him!
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