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Meza
June 19, 2018, 4:14pm

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First half was really good....2nd half was lack of movement off the ball not giving JH much options.  If you saw the game you would have seen this below which was when we all pushed up and Tunisia defending deep.  We meeded 1 or 2 dtopping and 1 or 2 making runs.  Its our first game...3 pts and much needed confidence.  Im sure we'll shift through the gears.  There'sno pressure from me on our lads.

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Young   Deli   lingard     sterling  Trippier

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Makes you wonder if Roy Hodgson is sitting at home wondering why Kane isn't taking the corners
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Can't believe all the negative comments on here. I'm really not sure what people expect from this team. As far as I am aware nobody expected England to win this but this is a young squad, the youngest there, who played with more maturity then many of their much more renowned predecessors.

First 30 minutes we played some of the best stuff I'd seen from any team so far. Yes we squandered some very good chances and that will have to improve but the fact we created so many chances is a positive.

Tunisia pressed higher when we went a goal up and caused us a few problems but apart from Tunisia's penalty, I don't remember another threat on our goal in the entire match.

The 2nd half was different and there was no way we could continue with the same pace of the 1st half but this is were the maturity came into it. Previous England sides would have resorted to longer and longer balls, hopeful hoofs into the box but this side kept to their game plan.

England kept the ball, moved the opposition around and gradually wore them down without looking particularly dangerous. But then with the introductions of Rashford and Loftus-Cheek the tempo was picked up and England got their just deserts because Tunisia tired, allowing Kane to be unmarked to score.

Yes, there is room for improvement and no we aren't going to win it but, for me, that was a good performance against a Tunisia team who had some decent results in the build up including holding out against Spain for 84 minutes before losing 1-0.

It has become so fashionable to critcise England, people don't recognise a good performance when they see it.


First time I’ve been accused of being fashionable.


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Both Lingard and Sterling regularly play in what is arguably the best football league in the world. In fact all the England squad play in that league so how you can say we are not good enough at this level is completely wrong.


How do you evaluate what is the best league in the world?

Maybe people can say certain players (or the whole squad) are not good enough because they’re not? Certainly not with the way some made repeated attempts to pass one solid object through another one.


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June 19, 2018, 5:35pm

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How do you evaluate what is the best league in the world?

Maybe people can say certain players (or the whole squad) are not good enough because they’re not? Certainly not with the way some made repeated attempts to pass one solid object through another one.


I think PL just edges it for me followed by Spain and then Germany and  Italy.   PL has more clubs that can compete for the title....excluding one ofs like Leciester.

PL
Arsenal
Chelsea
Man City
Man Utd
Liverpool
Tottenham

La Liga
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Athlectico Madrid
FC Porto

Bundesliga
Bayern Munich
Brussia Dortmund
Stuttgart
Shalke




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I am sure I heard the commentator say that Tunisia were Africa's highest ranked team.
    As for layers like Sterling and a Young, yes they are playing in supposedly the best league in the world but at their clubs they are surrounded by proper world class players, I think Debroyne and David Silva would make even me look decent, how many of the England team would get in Real Madrid or Barcelona team, Kane and that's it.
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I hate Sterling being singled out. Just a bandwagon in my opinion not based on his ability. There's some players that fans love to hate no matter what. The two or three occasions he lost the ball he was surrounded by three Tunisians after receiving a poor choice of passes from other players. Kane did exactly the same but absolutely no mention of that. Sterling gets hammered for his finishing but what about Lingard missing at least two sitters? There's a reason Sterling gets picked by Southgate and Guardiola, he's quick, a real handful and commits defenders which affects their defensive shape. I don't mind who plays in the three behind Kane, Rashford, Alli, Lingard and Sterling are all effective.  

If Alli is struggling I'd put Rashford in even though I see him as a direct replacement for Kane if Harry's struggling, and I'd definitely replace the ineffective Young with Rose. Other than that no changes as Cahill is hardly an upgrade on McGuire is he?

I bet Germany, Argentina, Brazil etc would have loved a win against teams with shithousing tactics yet we still want to lambast our own players..


As you rightly say Bigdog, it is all about opinions, but I don’t agree that people are jumping on a bandwagon about Sterling. As I have said (and a few others have agreed) I have NEVER seen him have a good game for England. If you can quote me one then I will gladly eat humble pie, but I haven’t seen it. I watch most England games (probably 95% of them). Sterling has had 39 caps, 39. That is not bandwagon jumping, that is calling it the way it is imo. I don’t know if he can’t take the pressure, or another reason, but he’s had enough chances and it just never happens.

And imo Cahill is a better option than McGuire, quicker (even considering his age) a better passer of the ball and more experience of big games.

Although it is all about opinions. 😉
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The first 30 minutes was fine, Tunisia were still on the bus so there was acres of open grass to run into. Chances handed on a plate but where were the goals?  Once Tunisia equalised they dropped deep and cut it off. Instantly England had absolutely no idea what to do. The coach offered nothing different in the second half, even persisting with Ali when he couldn’t run. Nobody on the field had the brain to try and open the defence with a diagonal ball to the far post because it wasn’t on the crib sheet.

If ever there was a case for having the alternative on the bench of a Crouch or a Carroll this was it. Tunisia virtually invited England to win the game. They gave England the freedom of the touch line. Shimmying way down the sides and putting in cross after cross to nobody at the near post is not something to be praised as keeping to a game plan. If your second striker is useless then change the plan. If you don’t have a Carroll to change the angle for crosses,  bring on a Vardy to go for the near post. In the end it was an appalling bit of marking that gifted England the game.

Are we supposed to ignore these shortcomings and just say “Ah! bless ‘em, they’re only young” and “We woz robbed by VAR/the ref/FIFA”?

This is the Big Boys’ League, they don’t take excuses in there. Ask Low. Ask Titi. Ask Sampaoli. Big game on Sunday. More of the same tactics from Panama. Southgate needs to find a better answer than just a back and sideways midfield.


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La Liga
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Athlectico Madrid
FC Porto




I bet you a million quid that Porto don't win La Liga next season  


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June 19, 2018, 6:13pm

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I bet you a million quid that Porto don't win La Liga next season  


Ah crap thats portugals league....oops.  well spotted Abdul.....I'll give u that 😁


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