Jolley interview

Can anyone with iFollow summarise?

Quoted from Mikoo

Can anyone with iFollow summarise?

This practically sums up what was said.

• Assistant Manager vacancy – Speaking to someone currently in regards to replacement.
  
• Back room staff additions addictions – Over time might add more quality back room staff, assistant manager is the priority.
  
• Video / Performance analyst – Asser Lutu has left and returned back to London, analysis maybe done differently when new assistant comes in.
  
• First signing  – Within the next 7 to 10 days. Looking in all areas for players including Europe and all levels of football as well as players he already knows. 17 players left including 6 loans and big recruitment drive, not necessarily 17 more.
  
• New Contracts – Decision one way or another on the offers of new contracts within the next few days.
  
• Last season loan players – Possible that 1 or 2 previous loan players might be looked at bringing back who impressed Jolley.
  
• Danny Collins – Can help us move forward in a number of areas, and Jolley rates him highly.
  
• Akheem Rose – Jolley seen him train regularly and someone he decided has a lot of potential, likes the way he works and as a person. Biggest asset is his speed, very fast player, still young and needs to improve.
  
• Players kept on at Grimsby Town  – Siriki Dembele, Reece Hall-Johnson, Max Wright, Harry Clifton all important.  Ideally want young and local players. Mitch Rose and Cardwell both played important part towards end of the season. Cardwell needs to score goals, but overall contribution has been great, have to remember it's only his first season as a professional League player.
  

• Talks ongoing with new players & agents though, obviously given the very early stage of the market, players are reluctant to commit one way or another. Which is understandable
  
• Would hope there’ll be some movement in the next 7-10 days
  
• Possibility that he’ll revisit some of the players we had on loan last year
  
• Wants a certain type of player (work rate) to fit in with type of football he wants to play
  
• Other aspects, like character, important. Mentions he wants players who buy in to what it means to play for GTFC as there are places you could earn a higher wage or live a more glamourous lifestyle.
  
• Currently in talks with a potential assistant manager
  
• Video analyst (Asser Lutu was it?) has left club to move closer to family in London. Hopes that assistant he is speaking to will be able to fulfill that role, should he be successful in recruiting him
  
• Talked about Akheem Rose, like the look of him and will have a chance to stake a claim when they return to training. Same with Cardwell.
  

About the long & short of it.

Thanks both

Back room staff addictions  

Seriously though, there's more positivity and cheeriness in that one summary than in all those miserable months suffered under Slade. Feels good to be a Town fan again.

Don't think we have ever had a manager with his head switched on as much as Jolley. He has the drive for sure.

Pretty accurate summaries from Nelly and ska face, looking forward to next season, and news about signings.

Quoted from hheh2

Don't think we have ever had a manager with his head switched on as much as Jolley. He has the drive for sure.

WHS

Everything Jolley says is inspirational. That's not really any news in that update but the manager makes it sound interesting and is very informative  

Quoted from hheh2

Don't think we have ever had a manager with his head switched on as much as Jolley. He has the drive for sure.

Pity we haven't got a chairman to match.

He certainly knows how to say what the fans want to hear. I hope he's as good at saying what players want to hear so they'll fight for him.

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. Mentions he wants players who buy in to what it means to play for GTFC as there are places you could earn a higher wage or live a more glamourous lifestyle.

Jolly: It means a lot to play here! It's all about local pride!

Player: But I'm not local though....

Jolly: Forget that small detail, show some local pride by signing with this local club that isn't near anything interesting! Why would you want to live in London,Manchester or Liverpool when you can live here!? Local!

Player: I want to live in a trendy area with the best nightlife,shopping places and so on

Jolly: What are you talking about!? We have more than TWO McDonald's,A subway AND a Taco Bell! You can also have cheesy chips outside Gulliver's and sample the local talent....

Player: I'm sorry but none of this appeals and you're offering way less money than I asked for

Jolly: LOOOOCAAAAALLLLL

Player: Yeah sorry, I'm just gonna go

Joly: L.L.L.L.L.LOOOOOCAAAALLLL

Oh well, let's just sign a load of journeymen then, because we obviously can't attract decent players to this footballing backwater.

I still haven’t recovered from the ghost of Martin Butler.

Quoted from ginnywings

Oh well, let's just sign a load of journeymen then, because we obviously can't attract decent players to this footballing backwater.

All this backwater thing and jokes about Grimsby  (not aimed at you ginny)

I can think of many places worse to live in than in the same conurbation as the fantastic Cleethorpes beach area.

How many players from away stay here..... newfootballer for one  

Not only have you made one of the stupidest posts I've seen in a long time Kris, but you don't appear to know that our manager's name is J O L L E Y

Quoted from RoboCod

Back room staff addictions  

Seriously though, there's more positivity and cheeriness in that one summary than in all those miserable months suffered under Slade. Feels good to be a Town fan again.

Doig coming back?

Let's make it a rule that once you have left Town, no one, I say no one comes back, apart from any loan players who have shown they can cut it here.

Quoted from oldun

Let's make it a rule that once you have left Town, no one, I say no one comes back, apart from any loan players who have shown they can cut it here.

completely agree - would hate to see Ryan Bennett, Omar or Podge back here  

I can see a few foreign players being brought in....  

Menno Willems anyone?

Great interview, head screwed on for sure. Not only can he use a computer, he dabbles in video analysis too.....he’s a proper modern manager ! Whatever one of them is.....

Quoted from forza ivano

completely agree - would hate to see Ryan Bennett, Omar or Podge back here  

No not even those 3

Quoted from davmariner

I still haven’t recovered from the ghost of Martin Butler.

I still haven't recovered from Marley's ghost.

Quoted from promotion plaice

All this backwater thing and jokes about Grimsby  (not aimed at you ginny)

I can think of many places worse to live in than in the same conurbation as the fantastic Cleethorpes beach area.

How many players from away stay here..... newfootballer for one  

Alan Buckley
George Higgins
Matt Tees
Don Donovan
Gary Croft
Ron Cockerill
George McClean
Johnny Scott
To name a few I am sure there are many more,

Yes parts of Grimsby are rubbish but there are nice area's  as well,

Quoted from forza ivano

Not only have you made one of the stupidest posts I've seen in a long time Kris, but you don't appear to know that our manager's name is J O L L E Y

I can’t believe people are feeding the Troll.  I fell for it at first. But it’s quite a boring routine now.  Swin is far better at this sort of thing.  

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Alan Buckley
George Higgins
Matt Tees
Don Donovan
Gary Croft
Ron Cockerill
George McClean
Johnny Scott
To name a few I am sure there are many more,

Yes parts of Grimsby are rubbish but there are nice area's  as well,

And the nice areas are full of old people waiting for death. There is absolutely nothing in Grimsby or Cleethorpes for a young 20 something. Most people who move to the area as part of GTFC don't live in Grimsby or Cleethorpes if they stay long term, they'll move to some of the outer villages so they don't have to deal with the dross.

As a young '20 or something', I'd have to agree. I havent lived in Grimsby since I left for uni nearly 6 years ago and i couldn't imagine living there permanently again, sadly.

I’ll chip in here. I left the area 15 years ago and have lived in Leeds for the last 10 or so. Leeds is a great city, with lots of amenities and a nice balance between earning potential and cost of living.

All that said, the longer I’ve been away the more I’ve come to appreciate what Grimsby / Cleethorpes has going for it and the more I miss home in truth.

I was back for armed forces day last year and Cleethorpes was absolutely glorious - totally buzzing. I grew up with the seafront on my doorstep and never fully appreciated it, but it’s a part of the world that’s so much nicer than it gets credit for.

It’s easy to lament the lack of investment from big, international companies but the lack of a Frankie & Bennies or TGI Fridays is a big positive for me - it’s great to come back and take the family out to independent restaurants with top food and reasonable prices.

In terms of property, I wince when I compare house prices in West Yorkshire with the likes of Humberston and New Waltham.

Yes, there are problem areas (like every town in the country) and it’s geographically inconvenient in terms of proximity to other cities of note (I’m not counting Hull, as that really is a sh*thole), but it’s by no means the worst place in the world to live.

Far from it.

Quoted from Mariner93er

As a young '20 or something', I'd have to agree. I havent lived in Grimsby since I left for uni nearly 6 years ago and i couldn't imagine living there permanently again, sadly.

Awww. Poor you. If you have a spare half a million knocking about why don't you go and live somewhere more to your taste? Sevenoaks or somewhere in Berkshire perhaps?

Every single town in the UK has good and bad areas, and there is absolutely nothing wrong in a working class town like Grimsby. Most of Grimsby is attractive compared to many similar sized towns throughout the UK. Could be a whole lot better with good investment, but that applies to most towns as well.

Always stay proud of where you came from people, it's your heritage and history.
My wife and I left Grimsby for work reasons 35 years ago but I love going back and never miss an opportunity to sell the area to anyone who wants to listen.
I can think of loads of reasons why a footballer should move to Grimsby and stay for ever. If anyone asks me where I'm from the answer is always Grimsby, never Bucks or anywhere else we've lived.
Great countryside, great seaside, low cost housing, great eating out. And the Tetley's in the Notts is to die for!

As a 20 something myself recently moved away from Grimsby to Scotland and could never see myself moving back.

Cleethorpes is pretty nice and seems to be getting some decent investment with bars opening and chains like Taco Bell moving in but town's dying.

There's literally no job opportunities for graduates unless you want to work in retail or factory work.

Not much night-life. No music scene, only ever get tribute bands or forgotten one-hit wonders. Strange as back in the day I hear The Winter Gardens always had big acts playing. In Glasgow you get all the big bands and there's tons of venues.

If you want to visit a shopping centre that isn't just full of pound shops you have to travel afar, and Grimsby's in the middle of nowhere. Lincoln's closest but the trains are a rip, are old and take ages.

Only good thing is the fish and chips but I can get fish and chips up here that rival the best in GY/Cleethorpes.

The only friends I know staying in Grimsby had babies and are working in fish factories or skipped University and are now still at home living with their parents working on minimum wage in Tesco.

I’m 20 something and i love it here. And for the record so what if they work in a factory or at tesco. Very arrogant comment and for that your my TOTW. Every area has good and bad places but your bang out of order to diss anyone just
Because they work in a factory

I’d guess that the graduates moaning there’s no jobs around here for them have studied something like camel dentistry or Swahili literature so it goes without saying there isn’t going to be much round here.

Quoted from BenBB

As a 20 something myself recently moved away from Grimsby to Scotland and could never see myself moving back.

Cleethorpes is pretty nice and seems to be getting some decent investment with bars opening and chains like Taco Bell moving in but town's dying.

There's literally no job opportunities for graduates unless you want to work in retail or factory work.

Not much night-life. No music scene, only ever get tribute bands or forgotten one-hit wonders. Strange as back in the day I hear The Winter Gardens always had big acts playing. In Glasgow you get all the big bands and there's tons of venues.

If you want to visit a shopping centre that isn't just full of pound shops you have to travel afar, and Grimsby's in the middle of nowhere. Lincoln's closest but the trains are a rip, are old and take ages.

Only good thing is the fish and chips but I can get fish and chips up here that rival the best in GY/Cleethorpes.

The only friends I know staying in Grimsby had babies and are working in fish factories or skipped University and are now still at home living with their parents working on minimum wage in Tesco.

I work for Tesco  

Quoted from Kris2

And the nice areas are full of old people waiting for death. There is absolutely nothing in Grimsby or Cleethorpes for a young 20 something. Most people who move to the area as part of GTFC don't live in Grimsby or Cleethorpes if they stay long term, they'll move to some of the outer villages so they don't have to deal with the dross.

You may find that players who sign for Leeds do not generally live in Armley or  Bramley and those signing for a Manchester club tend to live in Cheshire, or even a hotel. By the way, I didn’t think there was much for me in GY after uni in the 60s. But I stayed and discovered life is what you make it, dross or no dross, and you wait for buses because they are late, death is always too early.

Quoted from Kris2

And the nice areas are full of old people waiting for death. There is absolutely nothing in Grimsby or Cleethorpes for a young 20 something. Most people who move to the area as part of GTFC don't live in Grimsby or Cleethorpes if they stay long term, they'll move to some of the outer villages so they don't have to deal with the dross.

Any chance of a new routine Scunt. This one is boring now.
And your Town is far far worse than ours.

I moved to Lincoln 15 yrs ago.  I met the mrs and finally settled down with the perfect woman.  I love where i come from and i get very defensive when someone disses my town.  I frequently visit the parents for my sunday dinner but when i left i left everything behind....friends....work mates......night life.....family.  it was a huge decision for me but i had to leave not because of the state of the town but for happiness.

Would i come back.......absolutely i would have no problem coming back.  

The only problem i can see from what others are saying there is certain areas of bad housing i.e. drugs etc no investment in the town....even pleasure island is now shut.  

The only people i blame is the lazy sods that are meant to be custodians of the town.

Am i Town or City

Absolutely Town we all are arent we ⚫⚪⚫⚪👍

I was born in Lincoln and lived in that area until a teenager, moved to Boston and loved it for most of the 45 yrs I lived there but I could never imagine a town decline so fast as Boston did.  I then moved to Peterborough for 7 yrs before moving on to Grimsby 10 yrs ago, my own choice completely and never regretted a minute of my time here.  In Peterborough I was going through a split from a partner of 30 yrs and spent a fair bit of time up here with friends and family and loved the people I met and made many friends, I've never been anywhere so friendly and welcoming. This was the main factor in me moving to Grimsby. When I hear people calling the town, I say to them, try living in Boston and Peterborough, both are far worse than this area. Soon after moving to Grimsby I met a wonderful lady from Nottingham, we spent half our time here and other half in Nottingham, After 4 yrs together we decided to get married and choice of living in Grimsby or Nottingham, we chose Grimsby, yes Nottingham is a great City but it also has some undesirable areas, as do all Towns/cities. We are very happy here and if I ask her if she ever misses Nottingham ,she say no not at all,she has also made many friends here.
All we need now is for Mr.Jolley to give us a great football team once again. UTM.

I have a slight regret that I didn't live in a major city when I was young and had a bit of cash in my pocket. Instead, returned straight from University to live and work in N.E. Lincs and have been here ever since.

I was perhaps a bit lucky because Cleethorpes was a great night out back in the 1990s and I visited friends in cities once or more a month so had the best of both worlds. These days, I don't get out much but it seems to me that the nightlife is much inferior (could just be showing my age!). Biggest change is that there are just so many flipping tacky bars all over the place these days. Probably twice as many places to drink on a Saturday night as when I was in my 20s but fewer of them worth visiting and most are half-empty because there aren't many more people around.

On the other hand, with a young family, I appreciate a lot more what the area has to offer because you can have a lovely stroll down the seafront when the weather is good enough for it and there is still some character around with the Fitties and the like.

It might not be the most exciting of places to live, but there are many worse options around. That said, I can see why young footballers might not exactly be drawn to the place as they are invariably going to be wanting to live in cities with more variety to nightlife and entertainment available.

Quoted from BenBB

As a 20 something myself recently moved away from Grimsby to Scotland and could never see myself moving back.

Cleethorpes is pretty nice and seems to be getting some decent investment with bars opening and chains like Taco Bell moving in but town's dying.

There's literally no job opportunities for graduates unless you want to work in retail or factory work.

Not much night-life. No music scene, only ever get tribute bands or forgotten one-hit wonders. Strange as back in the day I hear The Winter Gardens always had big acts playing. In Glasgow you get all the big bands and there's tons of venues.

If you want to visit a shopping centre that isn't just full of pound shops you have to travel afar, and Grimsby's in the middle of nowhere. Lincoln's closest but the trains are a rip, are old and take ages.

Only good thing is the fish and chips but I can get fish and chips up here that rival the best in GY/Cleethorpes.

The only friends I know staying in Grimsby had babies and are working in fish factories or skipped University and are now still at home living with their parents working on minimum wage in Tesco.

Trying to compare Grimsby & Cleethorpes with Glasgow, not sure what you graduated in but it certainly wasn't commonsense.

I moved away purely to get another job and am looking to move back when I retire, the area may not be the best but compared to the town I live in now it has got much more going for it.

I moved away in my early twenties and moved back in mid thirties with a wife and kid.

Cleethorpes is a fantastic place to raise a family but I can understand why a footloose and fancy free, single chap on a decent wage might like to live elsewhere.

I left at 18 for university and have lived away now for over 30 years. Settled in Manchester and married a local girl who absolutely loves Cleethorpes. We get over 2 or 3 times a year to see family and the only thing really stopping us from moving back is that we couldn't get comparable jobs in the area. Once retirement comes though it could be very much on the cards.

So, the consensus is that Gy/Clee suits some people but not others. Pretty much as it is for most places and not all footballers are looking for nightclubs and a Nando's. Macca was a young man when he came here and i often see him strolling on the seafront with his Mrs and kids, looking pretty content.

I like walking and at the weekend, we pootled up to Flamborough and walked along the clifftops toward Bempton and around Thornwick Bay. Stunning place. Today i will take time out to walk up the seafront and up the cycle/footpath to the fitties. There is nothing finer on a sunny day.

I wouldn't want to live anywhere else; OK, I live about 45 minutes away in the Wolds, but Cleethorpes is my town. It's a much more graceful resort than Skeg or Mabo, and has much more of a feel-good factor to it. It was done up about 20 years ago, and there are some really nice places to eat. If you want mega shops then you have to travel to Meadowhall, (although I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than go round there as I hate shopping.) Rural Lincolnshire is beautiful, and travelling a fair distance for entertainment or shopping is just something you have to do. I have to drive 25 miles to buy more or less anything, but it's worth it.

The relative isolation can be a problem in recruiting though, the NHS tell us that it's hard to recruit doctors, dentists or nurses to here, and it has been the same in the past with vicars, purely because it's a hard place for their spouses to find a job. Both Cleethorpes and Grimsby have their rough areas, but then so do all towns.There are more than enough really nice parts of the area for players to move to,

I would have thought it was a two-way process, though; if you want to attract good players, you have to offer them more than a year's contract if you expect them to uproot themselves, move, and become part of the community.

I left Grimsby some 40 years ago after uni so couldn't really comment on what the area's like now to live in.  However, for a professional footballer you're a long time retired and what really matters to them is the opportunity to play first team football: I've spoken to players and I'm sure a player would choose first team football at Grimsby over reserve team football at - say - Forest.  If a potential signing thinks they're going to get that chance under MJ then they'll come to Grimsby.  If they have doubts, then they're not the kind of players we want anyway.  From what I've seen of MJ, he is a special kind of manager and probably the kind who'll attract players here.  Let's hope so.

I'll put all this into sort of perspective,...I moved from my beloved Grimsby to Beverley 16 years ago, since moved to Hull...The one overriding factor is that Grimsby people are polite, not full of themselves and truly grounded regardless of where we're from...Beverly, full off wanna be millionaires who couldn't really scrape a penny to buy a tramps vest but give it the biggy big boll@x "I live in Beverley, dont you know"....Hull, full of bitter people who think they're the forgotten few whilst bigger cities prosper and thrive....so when jolley mentions about players signing up to "Grimsby way".....It's players to the man who want to feel welcome, loved and really know what a club like GTFC means to town...not just a franchised money laundering machine for the rish n famous playboys of this world....oh, and do leeds, manchester, liverpool, london have golden sandy beaches, where you can take your family for a relaxed walk and watch ships saunter past....Give me Grimsby any day off the week over the soft shandy drinking southerners and the toffee nose mancunians!!..not to mention the six fingered, web toed yorky brigade!!

GY/Clee does have problems but so does nearly every major Town/City and in terms of former players loads have settled here after playing for the Club.This is a very nice part of the Country we just don`t appreciate what we have.

Seeing as there are no football games for a bit lets talk about our Town,

I was born in the Nunsthorpe maternity home in 1948 but my dad worked on a farm and we lived in Riby ,

We moved to a posh new estate in Grimsby called Wroxham Avenue well it was posh then,

When I was 5 we moved to Middlesborough were my dad got a job working with his brother in a factory now that was rough  we have been back a few times over the years and believe me it is worse than Grimsby,

2 years up there and dad saw sense and we moved back to Cleethorpes which was like heaven dad took me to Blundell Park and I have been hooked ever since.

For the next 32 years I lived in either Grimsby or Cleethorpes and went to most games,The fishing industry that was thriving died a slow death and Grimsby started to  run down.

Area's were neglected by the council like Freeman St which used to be buzzing  even more so on market days, there was no money in the town so unemployment just went up and up,

Even Cleethorpes which has one of the best beaches in the country was hit as people went abroad for their holidays instead of 2 weeks in Cleethorpes every year.

So after been made redundant for the third time we decided to move South and boy was it the right thing to do.

It was like  Grimsby and Cleethorpes all those years ago plenty of work and well kept estates and villages.

Grimsby and Cleethorpes are stuck in a time warp and it needs someone with money and idea's to bring it out into the 21 century . The government could help but does very little for the area.

My wife and I are well travelled but we still agree Grimsby folk are the friendliest people about and we both miss home but are more than happy down here since half the family are now suffolk born,( so we have to drop the suffolk jokes )

We love coming back home and having fish + chips down the prom and me taking some suffolk born Mariners to watch a game.

Will Grimsby ever get back to being a wealthy area again ?

I doubt it but it will always be home to us.

I was brought up on the Grange estate in the 70’s  and some of the best people i have met have came from there too.

I've lived in Leeds for a few years now and certainly won't be moving back for a while, that said, it'd be nice to come back.

After living down south for a few years previously, I couldn't wait to come back up north but for somebody in their 20s there isn't enough in Grimsby/Cleethorpes and we have our council etc to thank for that. The lack of regeneration going on here is criminal, Leeds was a excrement hole in the 90s and apparently it's now unrecognisable. There's so much going on not only in Leeds but across the country to modernise, yet the powers that be in Grimsby are hell bent on that not happening.

I do love coming home for a few days now and then mind.

I don't think you can underestimate how little the council can really do to help regeneration.

To be blunt they haven't got a pot to urine in when it comes to serious funding. Areas such as Grimsby whose main industry is decimated within a few years and then abandoned by government have no chance without outside intervention and, of course, this has never come. Much the same for the industrial heartlands in the north east, south Wales, mining areas and the like.

As long as we're living on scraps, that's all we'll get.

The problem with Grimsby is that our government aren't interested in us. They can find many millions to upgrade roads and railways and other infrastructure in the south,but we can't get jack sh1t to upgrade the A46 or provide us with a direct rail link to the capital. If Toll Bar roundabout was in London it would get the right amount of money to improve it, but here we only get the cheapest options available, traffic lights FFS! Lincoln is only a very short rail trip to Newark to catch the mainline to London. We have to travel 60 miles due east to Doncaster to catch the train south. Yet Lincoln can have a direct service, but we can't. If you check Wikipedia, the population of NE Lincs area is bigger than that of Lincoln, so why do they get the direct rail link and we don't?

It’s easy to call our area a shithole of a place to live if you’ve never seen the other “shithole” towns and cities out there, and it’s sad when you get some disloyal Uni-helmet geek slagging his/her home town off just because they’re in a place that caters for beardy hipster students, I actually take it as a positive we haven’t got throngs of these snowflakes roaming our towns centres and clogging up our roads in their beat up beetles.

Burnley,Halifax, Rochdale, Rotherham, Scunthorpe, just 5 places of the top of my head I’ve spent a good deal of time in to confirm that these are absolute shitholes in comparison to our area, I could think of many more including big cities like Leicester, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford that have areas you wouldn’t want to leave a dog in never mind live in, and even London it used to be one of the greatest Capital City's in the world,  but not anymore it’s still ok for an expensive night out but how safe would you feel there now thanks cultural enrichment?

I love where I live yes it could be improved if we had a forward thinking council but when I think of the people, the parks, Weelsby Woods, our fantastic beach Which is better than many European holiday resorts, the promenade, the boating lake, the restaurants, two town centres to choose from, Abbeygate, sea view street, the many independent boutiques that have sprung up around Cleethorpes, the air show, scooter rally, a decent theatre and Auditorium, we have cheap affordable housing, we have great schools, we live in an area were skilled people are in demand, we have the Lincolnshire Wolds on our doorstep for great family walks/ bike rides, do I need to go on....yes there are bad area’s like most places but anybody who says N.E. Lincs is a dump is deluded.

I read somewhere, that for every £5 spent on regeneration in the North, the South get £100. The government aren't interested in areas like ours and the only way they will take any notice, is if the renewable energy sector really takes off round here and creates wealth and jobs. Then they will come sniffing.

It's only really been since the 90's that Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool and Newcastle for example, started to modernise and regenerate. I started going to these cities in the late 70's and they were pretty grim on the whole. Your modern day student wouldn't have wanted to live there in those days, that's if they became a student at all. I never thought of being a student when i left school in the mid 70's- it didn't even cross my mind and wasn't talked about as an option while still at school. The best we could hope for was an apprenticeship, which i did. The world and his wife goes to uni nowadays, which is a big change from when i was leaving school. We never got to know what it was like living in another city, apart from working away on contracts from time to time, which i did, but i never got the urge to move to these places when the job finished. Most cities just looked like bigger versions of home to me.

Just going back to what Grim 74 said about cheap affordable housing in NE Lincs,

He is right the prices around here near and in Bury St Edmunds is just plain silly,

You could buy 2 houses in Grimsby for less than the price of one down here.

I bet  MJ could not believe his eyes when he saw the prices,

We will have one of those he said to his wife.

I spent last weekend in Manchester and what i saw of it imho it was a massive shithole a very expensive one at that  

Quoted from ginnywings

I read somewhere, that for every £5 spent on regeneration in the North, the South get £100. The government aren't interested in areas like ours and the only way they will take any notice, is if the renewable energy sector really takes off round here and creates wealth and jobs. Then they will come sniffing.

It's only really been since the 90's that Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool and Newcastle for example, started to modernise and regenerate. I started going to these cities in the late 70's and they were pretty grim on the whole. Your modern day student wouldn't have wanted to live there in those days, that's if they became a student at all. I never thought of being a student when i left school in the mid 70's- it didn't even cross my mind and wasn't talked about as an option while still at school. The best we could hope for was an apprenticeship, which i did. The world and his wife goes to uni nowadays, which is a big change from when i was leaving school. We never got to know what it was like living in another city, apart from working away on contracts from time to time, which i did, but i never got the urge to move to these places when the job finished. Most cities just looked like bigger versions of home to me.

I think your assessment of the big cities in the 70s is a bit lopsided there Ginny. I was born in Leeds and at uni in the 60s and all the big cities in the north were attractive propositions. In the 70s I was living back in the West Riding for a while and Leeds in those days was just changing. I think it changed for the worse. It was already a great shopping centre based on the clothing industry and the market that spawned M&S.  But they knocked all the character out, built m-ways through it, flattened lovely department stores to build soulless malls and did the same as Grimsby did but bigger and more brutal.

The houses were demolished and the people shipped out to lousy concrete estates in the nice villages like Rodley, Horsforth and Bramley. Hull did exactly the same with Hessle Road to Bransholme and Grimsby did it from Freemo to Littlecoates and Nunny and Grange. They built eyesore retail malls that looked run down after just a few years. Developers have made a bomb but local people haven't. The waterfront in Leeds was a gold mine for developers and supposed to be a yuppie paradise. It turned into a benefits ghetto for singles.

There has been a colossal amount of money wasted for which ordinary people have seen little benefit in Grimsby but even more so in those big cities. Look at Sheffield. They had the tramway to Meadowhall and decimated the city centre shops by doing it. So then the developers made another packet on revamping that which altered the retail equilibrium of the area in Rotherham and Doncaster. Nottingham did the same with two great big malls and a tramway but ask Mansfield what effect it had there.

You have to start by asking why a town or city exists in the first place and work from there. You can't just chuck money at it and expect it to be the answer. Manchester is surely the prime example. Grimsby existed for fishing, not shopping. So we need to replace the fishing before the shopping works again not the other way round. But developers want easy money and that comes with stupid councils like NEL biting their hands off when they produce a new retail or outskirts housing plan. Nothing was learned from the crooked dealings of T Dan Smith and Poulson in the 60s.  Until investment is job centred, all the towns and cities of the north are simply throwing money away. Maybe some towns have to die off, who knows? Nothing lasts forever. If Grimsby is not sustainable economically then maybe we should concentrate on making Cleethorpes the most important part?

Let's be honest, there's no.place like home and that will always be Grimsby to me, I may have moved away but heart will always belong to the crest of the 3 boars...
If you look at it on a economical scale, in the last 25 years the town has lost some major employers, the likes of cautaulds, titans, fisons, salversens, findus, birds eye to name but a few have gone and never been replaced...They said Grimsby would be the service hub for the off shore wind industry but has generated the amount of jobs that have been lost over the years?..not a cat in hells chance, so until, as if by some kind of miracle, the local government can get their thumbs out their backsides and find a major company to invest into the town unfortunately the downward spiral will continue....one thing will always remain tho, I've said it before and I'll say it again....you won't meet a better person than a grimbarian!!

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If you look at it on a economical scale, in the last 25 years the town has lost some major employers, the likes of cautaulds, titans, fisons, salversens, findus, birds eye to name but a few have gone and never been replaced...

Add to that list Jex closed in 2017 which employed around 200+ working there in 2005, around 170 jobs lost at Harry Carr Electrical in 2007, 100 jobs lost at Harcros head office at Imperial House next to the barge in 1993 which still had around 10-year lease already paid for in full and purpose built IT support office installed on the ground floor the previous year for the whole of the UK - crazy decision, HMRC tax office closing there 2020-21.

Nat West Bank seems to have less staff in there - two operating a front desk, looks like things are going more automated. Then the likes of Woolworths, BHS, Royal Insurance, Brittania Insurance all closing in Grimsby also. Pearl Insurance still on the go above Toni and Guys?

Quoted from grimsby pete

Alan Buckley
George Higgins
Matt Tees
Don Donovan
Gary Croft
Ron Cockerill
George McClean
Johnny Scott
To name a few I am sure there are many more,

Yes parts of Grimsby are rubbish but there are nice area's  as well,

Alan Buckley said it wasn't easy getting players to come to the area because of our geographical location.

Quoted from rancido

Alan Buckley said it wasn't easy getting players to come to the area because of our geographical location.

Mind you, that was in the days before satnavs.

There seems to be a serious lack of self esteem, pride, confidence and aspiration.
Plenty of self knocking and blind eyes.
As said in other posts, NEL could be fantastic and if we think everywhere else is different, we must live on millionaires row and even then we'd have to travel into town for council meetings, shopping, etc.
Every town and city has good and bad districts

I love Grimsby and Cleethorpes but bar some recent new ventures in the Cleethorpes seafront are, NEL has got worse rather than better over the last 20 years. There aren't simply enough well paid jobs for it to be otherwise. If you have a well paid job then life can be sweet up there, as long as you're not expecting lots of 'culture'.

I've been either actively, or passively considering moving back for about 10 years (including one abortive attempt) after leaving for uni in the early 80s. Schools in NEL seem to be improving in recent years (at least going by Ofsted ratings). If you head into Lincs the picture is worse, unless you are confident your kids will get in one of the grammar schools - again going by Ofsted ratings.

I'd happily move back. Be a tougher ask for my other half as there are fewer opportunities in her line of work. And the other factor is there are definitely fewer opportunities for young people. So my youngest kids would more likely have to move away for careers than they would if we stayed down here. And in the meantime there are lots more going on in a big city that I missed out on growing up. Partly because that's just a function of living near a big centre of population, but also because there seems to be less of a 'we can't do that' attitude in London than was my experience of NEL (admittedly some time ago, but also e.g. on here on attitudes towards a fan-run football club).

So I can completely understand anyone who says they will never move back. I don't think they're being 'disloyal', or 'snowflakes' or whatever other insults some are chucking around that question their world. But I would never say never (far from it). But if the attitude is to be dismissive of those who criticise your hometown, you will never see any need to change it.

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I work for Tesco  

I'm seasonal at Asda... Boooooo.

On subject I left Grimsby 5 or 6 years ago and moved to the south west. I'd move back in a heart beat if it wasn't for having my son down here (with an ex) yes it has a larger % of idiots in Grimsby but actually it has nearly everything you need (I don't drink or clothes shop so don't need pubs or a big shopping centre) there are some amazing people in Grimsby and I miss my family and my neighbours up there for sure!
Oh and nothing Compares to the fish and chips.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Just going back to what Grim 74 said about cheap affordable housing in NE Lincs,

He is right the prices around here near and in Bury St Edmunds is just plain silly,

You could buy 2 houses in Grimsby for less than the price of one down here.

I bet  MJ could not believe his eyes when he saw the prices,

We will have one of those he said to his wife.

This. I earn around 13k and my Mrs 5k. Not masses amount of money but should be enough to run a house and mortgage... Oh no, not down here. For a 2 bed bog standard flat you're looking at, £125,000 minimum. For a half decent 2 bed house you're looking at 250,000 minimum.. It's rediculous. We're renting a small 2 bed house with housing association with a court yard garden, £450 a month! My mum when she moved out of Grimsby for a couple of years rented her 3 bed house with 1 big grass garden and court yard garden for £400 a month!!

Anyway back on subject you can now watch the first of the interview for free on the gtfc website

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I’m 20 something and i love it here. And for the record so what if they work in a factory or at tesco. Very arrogant comment and for that your my TOTW. Every area has good and bad places but your bang out of order to diss anyone just
Because they work in a factory

I'm not dissing anyone - maybe it came across that way, it's good to make an honest living and sometimes there's no choice.

I'm just saying that I doubt anyone really aspires to do that sort of work though - not much room for career progression.

Quoted from BenBB

I'm not dissing anyone - maybe it came across that way, it's good to make an honest living and sometimes there's no choice.

I'm just saying that I doubt anyone really aspires to do that sort of work though - not much room for career progression.

I would stop digging if I was you. Mind you I cannot be you as I have never lived away; I didn't go to university either (you had to be clever in those days) but never mind, it hasn't worked out too bad for me all things considered.

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

Add to that list Jex closed in 2017 which employed around 200+ working there in 2005, around 170 jobs lost at Harry Carr Electrical in 2007, 100 jobs lost at Harcros head office at Imperial House next to the barge in 1993 which still had around 10-year lease already paid for in full and purpose built IT support office installed on the ground floor the previous year for the whole of the UK - crazy decision, HMRC tax office closing there 2020-21.

Nat West Bank seems to have less staff in there - two operating a front desk, looks like things are going more automated. Then the likes of Woolworths, BHS, Royal Insurance, Brittania Insurance all closing in Grimsby also. Pearl Insurance still on the go above Toni and Guys?

But we do now have a massive Primark !!!