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Grumps
April 9, 2018, 2:06pm

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Not for me too many pitfalls
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Quoted from rancido
But where would any investment come from unless you expect wealthy supporters to donate to the club? I constantly hear on this site that JF needs to "dip into his pocket" to invest in the club - speculate to accumulate is a constant mantra on here. If you don't have a person like JF but just the fans then who backs the club? I'm not saying it can't be done but it would need to be fully explained to me if I was to support it as the way forward.


Well, if JF ain't there - that's one constant gripe gone. If we can't speculate we have to look at what alternatives exist.

The fans would have to address the issue and discuss it. Strong youth development policy, contacting a few known wealthy fans to see if they're up
for a bung our way (who may have personal  motives for wanting a post-Fenty GTFC to prosper), rob banks, become a feeder club for Barcelona, or whatever.

Doubtless some views will strike others as ridiculous (e.g. rob banks)...but here's a small thing;
Having had the opportunity to air his/her ridiculous view and hear the comeback from Town fans the reasonable person will say
"Fair enough...I had my say".
Getting outvoted should be viewed in that light....we can't afford snowflakes who sulk when they get outvoted, anyway.

There'll be an extra (?) 1500 paying customers through the gate, and the Grimsby public can be generous given a vision they can believe in.

As Ginny sensibly points out - if Wycombe can do it why can't we? A huge undertaking, of course....should we do it or die wondering?
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Given more responsibility for actually running the club, they may well just surprise you.


There would be a different bloke in charge every week!



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I had great belief in the Trust up until recently personally can you explain what you mean by total disaster Swin as opposed to what? The last 15 years have been pish poor I would be vexed if you and I couldn`t at least better those results on and off the pitch at a Club with a 4k average gate.


I refer the Honourable Member to my earlier reply, if the Trust had anything to do with running the club there would be a resignation and a new bloke in charge every week. The manager post would be a big problem too, at least one man right or (mainly) wrong decides that at the moment If the fans ran the club with gates of 4000 you'd get 4001 different managerial suggestions  



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In contrast to the current leadership the Trust have shown they can organise things and harness the support of the fans. It works well at other clubs in our league. Why could it not happen at Town. The Trust has its issues, but they are minor compared to the shitshow that is the board.
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In contrast to the current leadership the Trust have shown they can organise things and harness the support of the fans. It works well at other clubs in our league. Why could it not happen at Town. The Trust has its issues, but they are minor compared to the shitshow that is the board.



Maybe but running the Trust and arranging the odd event is a sideshow compared to running the club


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At the moment i dont have the confidence in fans being able to run the club.  You need to dedicate alot of time and running a football club takes a bit more than a few hrs chairing a meeting.  


There are THREE people doing the job at the minute, JF, PD and SM. Are you saying that they're so super human and capable of doing more work than say a committee of ten or twelve fans on the board with a re-invigorated fanbase behind them willing to chip in with their time? The employees at the football club will still be in their jobs carrying out the day to day running of the club. A fan run club doesn't mean that all the employees at GTFC leave at the same time as the current board leaving the fans to do everything from cleaning to stewarding to ticket office to cutting the grass on the pitch.

I find it incredible that some fans can't imagine what a fan run club framework would entail.

As for the Trust.. as Barra says, it needs a fresh influx of capable people on board. And if the current Trust board members haven't got the time or inclination to take the step forward after the survey results, it's their responsibility to at least create a framework for the future for new members to take it forward and get the whole fanbase on board..
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Not for me too many pitfalls


Better off with the pitfall we know.. eh?  
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If we wanted a non-chairman we could always beg J.S.F. to apply or ask him for advice on how to run a football club
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There are THREE people doing the job at the minute, JF, PD and SM. Are you saying that they're so super human and capable of doing more work than say a committee of ten or twelve fans on the board with a re-invigorated fanbase behind them willing to chip in with their time? The employees at the football club will still be in their jobs carrying out the day to day running of the club. A fan run club doesn't mean that all the employees at GTFC leave at the same time as the current board leaving the fans to do everything from cleaning to stewarding to ticket office to cutting the grass on the pitch.

I find it incredible that some fans can't imagine what a fan run club framework would entail.

As for the Trust.. as Barra says, it needs a fresh influx of capable people on board. And if the current Trust board members haven't got the time or inclination to take the step forward after the survey results, it's their responsibility to at least create a framework for the future for new members to take it forward and get the whole fanbase on board..


no, what i'm saying is these 3 have all the time in the world without having to work to pay for their family's needs.  The fans\trust members probably don't have the money or the time to do it full time, and can only probably give a fraction of their time.  I'm not saying I don't want a fans led club, I just don't have the confidence, there's a different BigDog


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