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According to sly sports news, interested in becoming the new Sunderland boss!!
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Would be a very good payday regardless of the outcome and, as long as it isn't a complete catastrophe, you're raising your profile further for future jobs.
Plenty of managers have continued to find employment thanks to a big club's name on their CV.
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Fair play if he keeps them in the championship!
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Would be a very good payday regardless of the outcome and, as long as it isn't a complete catastrophe, you're raising your profile further for future jobs.
Plenty of managers have continued to find employment thanks to a big club's name on their CV.
Some go on to manage even greater clubs like Grimsby and Slade
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Must admit I fancy him for that job he would get them organised and avoid back to back relegations which would be a catastrophe for Sunderland. Once he stopped the rot the big questions would be can PH get on paper better players to perform and obtain Promotion whilst fighting against teams with bigger budgets? Sunderland don`t seem to spend a lot in recent seasons but the potential of the Club is enormous he would be mental not to give it a go.
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Good luck to him if he takes the chance but he will need some support with PR as you are really under a big spotlight locally and still nationally despite their decline.
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Why not. He would keep em up.
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He's an 18/1 shot. Ahead of him are some big names and experienced Championship managers. Would Sunderland want to take a gamble on him?
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What Sunderland need now is a sensible appointment. No punts on untried managers - just someone who's proven over time that he gets teams playing as teams (because they've got the individual talent to get out of bother).
It's literally all they need. Get those players playing for each other and they'll be fine. There's enough quality at that club.
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Not sure if the Sunderland fans would like LJL and Rodman
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Would be another clever move if he can do it. My bet is he knows the Shrews are at a peak now. As teams suss out their system and goals start to be hard to get, they will have to work hard and be lucky to go further. They have built up expectations with a good start to the season but a few more losses could turn it sour for him. So why not take a punt at this? Who would blame him for having a go while he’s on a roll? A decent payday, win or lose. It could lead to even better but even if he fails he wouldn’t be too damaged because everyone knows what Sunderland is like for managers.
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Sunderland have taken a gamble before on plenty of other managers (and players). Many have ended in failure. Hurst has nothing to lose.
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Fair play to him. I agree with Ron and Rich. He's already had experience of fans of a historic club with high expectations. Seriously, apart from help with the PR side, I reckon he could do it. They'll have players of good enough quality and he can build a team to grind out results.
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Saw this link and had a quick look on the Shrewsbury forum to see their reactions. One comment made me laugh out loud.
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Why would you move to club that we could conceivably replace in the Championship next season?
Pretty sure we were saying a similar thing about lge 1 this time last year.
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https://www.shropshirestar.com.....with-sunderland-job/According to this, he's due to attend a press conference this afternoon, but it doesn't say whether it's at Shrewsbury or Sunderland.
They're flipping clueless, joined from Grimsby town 18 months ago. Celebrated one year in charge last week.
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They clearly need someone who can get them organised and he can certainly do that. They've apparently got a wage bill of around £35m so in theory there should be some alright players there. However, from the outside, the club does have a look of rotten to it; they've been shite for a decade - imagine that!
As said though, even if he was sacked after 3 or 4 months, he'd still have a high stock with league 1 clubs AND he'd be richer.
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They're flipping clueless, joined from Grimsby town 18 months ago. Celebrated one year in charge last week.
You do realise a year is 12 months not 18 don't you?
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What Sunderland need now is a sensible appointment. No punts on untried managers - just someone who's proven over time that he gets teams playing as teams (because they've got the individual talent to get out of bother).
It's literally all they need. Get those players playing for each other and they'll be fine. There's enough quality at that club.
Wot like the last few they've had??
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They clearly need someone who can get them organised and he can certainly do that. They've apparently got a wage bill of around £35m so in theory there should be some alright players there. However, from the outside, the club does have a look of rotten to it; they've been shite for a decade - imagine that!
As said though, even if he was sacked after 3 or 4 months, he'd still have a high stock with league 1 clubs AND he'd be richer.
All true Abdul but I wonder if he would have what it takes to organise them. Why has he signed so many players he knows at Shrewsbury? Not so much because they are good but because they will do what he wants. That is different to Sunderland where he may find players who know more about the Championship than he does, who are earning as much as he is and are used to being managed by someone they may not like but at least has relevant experience. I think Hurst would be foolish not to have a go, he’s not daft, he knows there’s money in it. But he will know as well that he starts from scratch. No friends in the dressing room this time and players needing management skills he hasn’t had to produce before, as well as getting to know how the game works on the pitch at that level. It’s a lot to ask and it needs more than just his usual defensive ideas at a club with their kind of expectations.
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I do not think Hurst would walk out on a club he has a contract with, Just because he did it at Boston and Grimsby does not mean he would do it again,
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oh the joy another thread on Hurst,should run a sweepstake on how many pages it will make
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Didn't he play for most of his career at Championship level? He'd have some idea of what it takes to grind out results in that league.
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go for it Hursty - you've got nothing to lose and everything (especially £££££) to gain. he would only need to spark a marginal improvement for them to be safe - the players they've got are certainly good enough to survive in the championship
good luck to him - don't begrudge him any success or financial windfall he gets
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oh the joy another thread on Hurst,should run a sweepstake on how many pages it will make
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If he goes there and does not succeed then he'll get sacked and get another reasonable L1 or 2 job without a doubt, come t think of it JF like to appoint previous managers
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Good points Ron, but he's signed plenty more players that he hadn't worked with before than he had. He might have similar success in the transfer market a level higher? It might be similar to when he took over at Shrewsbury; in that he wants to get rid of the underperforming high earners, but I suppose the difference here is that they've probably got years rather than months left on their contracts.
They'll probably end up with a 'big name' like Ryan Giggs or Kevin Phillips or someone.
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Sunderland are looking for a big name not taking a punt.
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They've taken bad punts at big names over the last decade!
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At least he couldn't say the Sunderland fans have been spoilt.
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Good luck to him if he takes the chance but he will need some support with PR as you are really under a big spotlight locally and still nationally despite their decline.
Obviously if he approached me I would consider it
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do managers have a sell on clause like players tend to
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The likes of Paul Hurst and Danny Cowley should be getting these jobs and in my opinion they should be top of the list over the usual merry go round Manager`s.Yes I can see the attraction in a big name like Ryan Giggs to give the Club a lift BUT is he the right man for a dogfight with no proven track record?
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do managers have a sell on clause like players tend to
Depends on what is written in their contracts, In our case Hurst always had 6 months left on his contract so Shrewsbury would have paid that off, I read the other day that one manager I think it was the Burnley one had a sell out clause of £2.5 million.
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The likes of Paul Hurst and Danny Cowley should be getting these jobs and in my opinion they should be top of the list over the usual merry go round Manager`s.Yes I can see the attraction in a big name like Ryan Giggs to give the Club a lift BUT is he the right man for a dogfight with no proven track record?
Agreed if we don't give young English managers a chance how the hell do we appoint a Englishman to manage England
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Agreed if we don't give young English managers a chance how the hell do we appoint a Englishman to manage England
Agreed and Grimsby Town have a good record of producing a England manager and Assistant Manager.
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They're flipping clueless, joined from Grimsby town 18 months ago. Celebrated one year in charge last week.
That's very clever F.C.
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That's very clever F.C.
It was the cryptic for 8 down in Wednesday's daily sport, still have no idea big G
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Sunderland my bottom! Who does he think he is? He's done nowt yet, achieved the absolute bare minimum at Town and took his time doing it, we only finished 4th in the Conference FFS!
He's no chance of the Sunderland job. Done nowt at Shewsbury either, just started well that's all. It's barely November!
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It's a third of the way through the season and he's sitting 7 points clear of third place in League One. With Shrewsbury. They're no bigger than us in terms of fan base. A year ago when he took over they looked certain to go down. So he's hardly "done nothing" there.
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Sunderland my bottom! Who does he think he is?
They're 3 places above Shrewsbury in the pyramid, he's not putting himself forward for the Barcelona job.
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If he thought a few thousand from Grimsby were spoilt and abusive he would be in for a treat up there lol
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If he really wants to go to a club with ambition why not let him come here-Slade could always apply for the Sunderland job-that would kill 3 birds with one stone-then we could be in the same division as Sunderland .
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If he didn’t go and won promotion at Shrewsbury he’d have won promotion at all 4 clubs he’ managed which would make him if interested to a club like Sunderland who will have to be careful what they spend.
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Some people are in denial about just how good PH is. He's been a manager around 10 years, done well at every club, never been sacked, challenged for promotion numerous times and everywhere he's gone gates have risen (which will resonate with chairmen). He's almost certainly going to manage at at least Championship level before long, possibly higher. He might be small, have a provincial accent, not have been a great player, but he's certainly making huge strides as a manager. We were lucky to have had him.
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Some people are in denial about just how good PH is. He's been a manager around 10 years, done well at every club, never been sacked, challenged for promotion numerous times and been everywhere he's gone gates have risen (which will resonate with chairmen). He's almost certainly going to manage at at least Championship level before long, possibly higher. He might be small, have a provincial accent, not have been a great player, but he's certainly making huge strides as a manager. We were lucky to have had him.
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If being “spoilt” is where Shrewsbury currently sit I guess I’d take it.
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And the great “spoilt” comment misinterpretation goes on.
And on and on.
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If being “spoilt” is where Shrewsbury currently sit I guess I’d take it.
You never know Slade might spoil us yet.
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You never know Slade might spoil us yet.
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You never know Slade might spoil us yet.
He spoiled everything when he arrived back at GTFC.
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And the great “spoilt” comment misinterpretation goes on.
And on and on.
You don't get irony, do you?
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You don't get irony, do you?
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You don't get irony, do you?
Are you of all the people on this forum really suggesting that I go on a bit?
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If he thought a few thousand from Grimsby were spoilt and abusive he would be in for a treat up there lol
Most vitriolic abuse I've heard was at Sunderland when Laurie Mac was in charge of them and we had gone 1-0 up.
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