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KingstonMariner
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Agree totally, now toilet rolls are cheaper, cleaner and totally harmless, falling on deaf ears I`m afraid


Should be careful where you throw them as the deaf can't hear them coming.


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Full marks to them when you consider we have been crap for their entire lifetime. The noise can only inspire the players. Even the youtube vidoes come close to actually raising the hairs on the back of your neck  


The last time the hairs on the back of my neck stood on end was when the manager signed that striker in the summer.

My bet - some idiot will still set off a flare/bomb at Torquay just to show how clever they are.



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I see the smoke bombs have made the front page of the Telegraph today.

http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/TIME-QUIT-SMOKE-BOMBS/story-23252165-detail/story.html
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If the FA dock the club points for this ( if it continues )

That could cost us promotion,

It's hard enough to get out of this league as it is,

Please lads do not make it any harder.

Scream and shout but no smoke bombs  thanks.


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they won't dock any points, if they did that, people would go to every barnet game and let one off


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I'll repeat what I said in the 'just back' thread : Finally, a message to the 'Teenage Cas(ual) Club': If you must insist on bringing flares/smoke bombs to 'enhance' the atmosphere be sensible with them. Let them off around you mates and not in the faces of little kids as you did when you all piled down the front of the stand and don't aim them at people. The second one landed very close to to Wrexham stewards. You should remember most people stewarding at this level are doing it because they are football fans too - not for the money. I hope it doesn't result any fines for the club.

Fair play for renting a mini bus and being organised though. Supporting your local club with your mates it's what it's all about. When done in the right way. The shenanigans at Wrexham General just don't reflect well on the club, Grimsby or Lincolnshire so try to think about that.



I'm sorry but that is a totally crass statement. To the " Teenage Cas(ual) Club " do not bring smoke bombs or any other pyrotechnic devices to football matches - end of ! They are dangerous, illegal, totally irresponsible and a complete annoyance to the rest of the fans. According to a fact sheet from the FA , any fan caught being in possession of a pyrotechnic device at a match " faces a real risk of going to prison". The FA also add that although a smoke bomb may be seen as less dangerous than a flare or firework , the courts do not differentiate between them. It should be noted that fans have been sentenced to 3 months in prison just for carrying smoke bombs!


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Pyrotechnics and football – what we know

Pyrotechnics are illegal at football grounds
Being in possession of a pyrotechnic device at a football match, or attempting to bring a pyrotechnic device into a football stadium, is a criminal offence under the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc) Act 1985. Any person committing such an offence faces arrest and can expect the Court to make a Football Banning Order.

The 2012/13 season saw a record number arrested for pyrotechnics
There were 71 arrests for ‘Possession of a Firework / Flare at a Sporting Event’. This was an increase of 154% on arrests recorded for the 2011/12 season (2. These arrests have occurred at more matches in the Premier League (26) and Championship (21) than in League 1 and League 2 which saw less than five arrests each.

People are getting jailed and banned
•     In November 2013 a Manchester United fan that set off a smoke bomb during their clash with West Bromwich Albion - Sir Alex Ferguson's last game in charge – was given a two month jail term (suspended for 12 months) and banned from any football grounds for three years.
•     In February 2013 two Chelsea fans were jailed for 28 days and given six year football banning orders for taking smoke bombs into the Liberty Stadium for a match versus Swansea City. Their appeal for the sentence was thrown out.
•     In January 2013 an 18 year old Exeter City fan was jailed for two months and given a six year banning order for attempting to take a smoke bomb into Torquay United v Exeter City.
•     In August 2012 an Oxford United fan was jailed for two months and given a six year banning order for taking a smoke bomb into Home Park for a match versus Plymouth Argyle.

Incidents nearly always involved the away supporters
Of the 172 reported pyrotechnic incidents in the 2012/13 season, 164 were committed by away supporters.

They are used by younger fans
The average age of supporters arrested for pyrotechnic use is 20. Little disorder was reported as a direct result of their use.


What do football clubs do to counter the threat of pyrotechnics?

They gather intelligence
Prior to matches research is undertaken to find relevant intelligence about the visiting Club and the behaviour of their supporters with the Police, with the visiting club’s safety officer and by studying the reports collated on the Football Safety Officers Association website. When it is indicated that a threat exists in relation to smoke bombs, flares or fireworks mitigation is deployed.

How do they mitigate at grounds?
•     Pyrotechnic detection dogs are used as a visible deterrent and detect pyrotechnic devices both at points of entry and on the concourses. Their use is advertised to fans. Amnesty bins for those carrying pyros are often used by clubs.
•     Stewards and Security Officers are briefed on the intelligence relating to the visiting fans and how to react in the event of the illegal ignition of pyrotechnics.
•     Thorough searching of people entering the stadium is undertaken by security officers under the supervision of police.
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Quoted from rancido



I'm sorry but that is a totally crass statement. To the " Teenage Cas(ual) Club " do not bring smoke bombs or any other pyrotechnic devices to football matches - end of ! They are dangerous, illegal, totally irresponsible and a complete annoyance to the rest of the fans. According to a fact sheet from the FA , any fan caught being in possession of a pyrotechnic device at a match " faces a real risk of going to prison". The FA also add that although a smoke bomb may be seen as less dangerous than a flare or firework , the courts do not differentiate between them. It should be noted that fans have been sentenced to 3 months in prison just for carrying smoke bombs!


I put it that way because we've seen the propaganda yet people still do it.


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