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Trawler
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I'm by no means an apologist for Hurst, but we missed out on promotion by only two victories last season, and got knocked out of the play offs by default when Neilson was given his marching orders, and Hatton did what he did afterwards.

Most on here seem to think we have a better calibre across the park this season. So it's fair enough that we should hope, even expect to do better than 2013/14.

There's only three better places to finish:  losing play-off finalists, play off winners and champions.

Obviously we would all be happy if we go up - perhaps even Old Codger and Denni might raise a smile.

But - if we finish stronger and make the play-off final and lose, do you stick with Hurst?

Personally I would keep a manager who makes the play-offs in three consecutive seasons, regardless if we go up or not, and the manner in which we get there.


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"Pound for pound, and class for class, the best football team I have seen in England since the war. In the league they were in they played football nobody else could play. Everything was measured, planned and perfected and you could not wish to see more entertaining football." Bill Shankly, Manager GTFC 1951-54
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Most people could see by January last year that we didn't have what it takes to win the play offs !
You say we was beaten by the Neilson sending off but we was already losing and had been totally out played over the two legs , In fact we started playing better after the sending off.There was no way we would have got past Cambridge never mind Gateshead.

We had played crap since the turn of the year barring Cambridge away, the same as the season before.showing to me that Hurst had learnt nothing by wasting the squad in FA trophy games , no real plan B , Bringing in unwanted and unneeded players in January that upset the team and strange team selections and tinkering.
Hopefully he will learn this season quick oor it will go exactly the same way.

Success is winning the Championship , if we are out of the title race by Christmas then I would get rid and give someone else a crack.
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totally out played over the two legs ,


I must've watched a different first leg to you.


Fentys out
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I must've watched a different first leg to you.


You must have !
Gateshead was all over us at Blundell park
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Gateshead was all over us at Blundell park


An interesting definition of "all over us". They had one shot on target all game and we hammered them at the other end. Look at the BBC match stats:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27193081
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Ha ha fair enough . well they came and did the same as most other teams did in the second half of last season
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I'm by no means an apologist for Hurst, but we missed out on promotion by only two victories last season, and got knocked out of the play offs by default when Neilson was given his marching orders, and Hatton did what he did afterwards.

Most on here seem to think we have a better calibre across the park this season. So it's fair enough that we should hope, even expect to do better than 2013/14.

There's only three better places to finish:  losing play-off finalists, play off winners and champions.

Obviously we would all be happy if we go up - perhaps even Old Codger and Denni might raise a smile.

But - if we finish stronger and make the play-off final and lose, do you stick with Hurst?

Personally I would keep a manager who makes the play-offs in three consecutive seasons, regardless if we go up or not, and the manner in which we get there.


To answer your question.... Success = promotion

No promotion = bye bye mr hurst


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You must have !
Gateshead was all over us at Blundell park


Were they balls.


"I find your lack of faith disturbing".
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Were they balls.


Wouldn't say they were all over us , however their manager had a plan to nullify us totally , which they did on the night . They kept possession , played if I remember about 20 odd passes before we had the ball . When we did have the ball it was the big hump up to Lewis . My comment after the game was what could their manager do with our team , who on paper were of a better quality .
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promotion is success,
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