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mariner91
September 11, 2014, 4:31pm
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You must have !
Gateshead was all over us at Blundell park


We could and probably should have comfortably won at Blundell Park.


Looking forward to a brighter future now Fenty has gone.
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Wouldn't say they were all over us , however their manager had a plan to nullify us totally , which they did on the night .


We missed a load of chances, so they didn't really.


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You must have !
Gateshead was all over us at Blundell park


You are entitled to your view but I think your memory is playing tricks.

We were all over THEM in the first leg, but sadly couldn't get the winning goal.

We were dreadful in the second leg though, which I think is the most disappointing thing having played so well a few days earlier.

I don't think we will win the league, so we have to win the play-offs this year for the season to be a success.  
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Gateshead did have their best player missing from the first leg.  He was excellent in the second leg.  
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Wouldn't say they were all over us , however their manager had a plan to nullify us totally , which they did on the night . They kept possession , played if I remember about 20 odd passes before we had the ball . When we did have the ball it was the big hump up to Lewis . My comment after the game was what could their manager do with our team , who on paper were of a better quality .


And yet we managed 55% possession and way more shots on target than them. Some great saves stopped us taking a comfortable lead to the North-East, not being outplayed nor our manager out-maneuvered.


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Gateshead started well enough, scored a goal with their only real chance (after Hatton was caught day-dreaming) then it was all us after that. As I recall, their keeper made a few excellent saves but I don't recall us missing any real sitters.

Much the same as the play-off game at BP against Newport a year earlier as we had all the best chances, but conceded from their only effort on target. What was especially sickening about that one is that the free-kick from which they scored was the most blatant foul you could ever see on Thomas, but the referee ridiculously awarded it to Newport!

It's the away legs in the play-offs which have been the bigger problem. We were rubbish at Newport, looked beaten before we'd even started, and then of course McKeown chucked one in at Gateshead before the referee started with his party tricks.

If we need to go through the play-offs this season, then fair enough. I'm more confident in the abilities of our current squad than the last two seasons. Just hope injuries don't cause too many problems.
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Very difficult to say either way
Is there a manager out there who could take us the extra step should/if we fail in play offs again?
Who knows?

If success is only be defined by promotion then we might as well have a policy of one season managers - that can't be the way forward, surely

If we make play offs again (and fail), but see a continual improvement in playing style, and board has faith in PH then he must stay UNLESS they feel a better manager is available IMO

Such a tough league to get out of with the quality of player we can ultimately attract - money talks even in this league plus location/geography (whether we like it or not) plays a huge part in getting the really good players here; just read Alan Buckley's autobiography and both him and the board had that problem when we were a Div 2 side

I think that all has to be taken into account

Having said all that, if we don't make the play offs then I think PH has to go and a fresh look at things will be needed.

He will have had best part of three years which is a good run.
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To answer your question.... Success = promotion

No promotion = bye bye mr hurst


But..

Say if we lose the play off final, Hurst goes. We are going to need to act quickly to bring somebody in. By the time this happens, our better players could've moved on. We'd essentially be starting from scratch again with a new manager and new ideas. It would be an improvement on last season so would he not deserve another crack, hopefully keep a good bunch of the players together and just add quality where he needs to.
Obviously promotion is success, whether that's automatic or play offs.
For Hurst to keep his job it has to be the play off final. If we go out in the Semis again, he's proved he can't get the best out of his team when it really matters so he goes on his way.
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Define success.
Easy - Promotion.
Anything less is a total failure.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
GOD
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On the other hand,

We gain promotion,

Hurst then leaves for a better job,

Maybe the fans at that club are not always calling for his head.


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