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grimsby pete
September 12, 2014, 4:44pm

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How can we call failing to gain promotion a success ?

Only getting out of this league can be called success,

Anything else might be a decent season but it's not success.


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How can we call failing to gain promotion a success ?

Only getting out of this league can be called success,

Anything else might be a decent season but it's not success.


Which begs the question Pete, how long do you tolerate 'decent'?
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Which begs the question Pete, how long do you tolerate 'decent'?


When you say tolerate if that means me, I do not have a choice,

I will always support the club,

If you mean how long does John tolerate failure,

You better ask him.


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Hypothetically, let's imagine that we spend most of the season vying for automatic promotion but miss out on the last day of the season after a passing seagull deflects the ball away from what would have been the Championship-winning goal. Imagine also that we've had a good F.A. Cup run to bring money into the coffers and have won the Trophy, bringing more money in and some silverware to the club for the first time in 25 years. If we then get to the play-off final, only to lose due to yet another dismal refereeing performance with all the major decisions going against us, would you classify the season as a failure?

Would Hurst just have to be sacked after this (rather far-fetched) series of events, or would we be better set trying to keep the team and management together before strengthening the squad for one more promotion attempt?
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To be honest there isn't much out there Buckle and Brabin damaged there reputations at Luton, John Ward got sacked at Bristol Rovers, maybe Martin Foyle there isn't much out there John Coleman would play direct football.

To be fair on paper PH would be the best candidate for the position for a manager at non-league level that's they where appointed in the first place.
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Hypothetically, let's imagine that we spend most of the season vying for automatic promotion but miss out on the last day of the season after Lennel John-Lewis misses what would have been the Championship-winning goal. Imagine also that we've had a good F.A. Cup run to bring money into the coffers and have won the Trophy, bringing more money in and some silverware to the club for the first time in 25 years. If we then get to the play-off final, only to lose due to yet another dismal refereeing performance with all the major decisions going against us, would you classify the season as a failure?

Would Hurst just have to be sacked after this (rather far-fetched) series of events, or would we be better set trying to keep the team and management together before strengthening the squad for one more promotion attempt?


I've made it slightly less far-fetched for you. This makes it a more useful thought experiment.  


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