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Mourinho would be my choice. He is very close to winning the league in Spain which is an incredible achievement when Barca are around plus he has won the Champions League twice, the Uefa Cup, the FA Cup, the League Cup twice, the Portuguese league twice, the Prem twice and Seria A twice. Compare his medal hall with Arry's FA Cup and Division 2 title. No contest.
To appease the anti foreigners he speaks fluent English, has manged here for a few years previously and would have the respect of the players.
It's WIN WIN WIN for me (that's even better than WIN WIN).
He can speak English better than Harry Redknapp and he can certainly write it better as well, but that does not make Mourinho English. I know it is an old fashioned view but it has always seemed to me daft that there is a birth qualification for the players but not the manager. It can't be a "national" team if you have a foreign manager and winning under those circumstances would be devalued for me. |
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Yeh i agree Ronny - lets return the Ashes and Redgraves gold medals. Its got be Arry - look at all the trophies he's won over the years compared to them useless foreigners.
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Noticed that there is a big difference in the odds offered on Guardiola - from 16/1 at bet365 to 7/2 with Skybet (which makes him their 2nd favourite behind the most honest man you could ever meet). He'd do me nicely although I reckon give him a couple of weeks trying to get Parker, Gerrard etc playing in pretty triangles and he'll be screaming 'Get it in the mixer' and recalling Heskey before you know it.
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Yeh i agree Ronny - lets return the Ashes and Redgraves gold medals. Its got be Arry - look at all the trophies he's won over the years compared to them useless foreigners.
I agree about the Ashes actually. There are too many cricketers using the system just to swap countries and get in a test side. But cricket has always been a bit like that. Even athletics has gone that way with second rankers joining Team GB from abroad. Football never used to be as bad. Mind you I suppose George Raynor did coach Sweden in the 1950s.  It just doesn't seem right though does it? Our football must be really crap if we can't find a decent home grown manager for the national team.  |
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Football never used to be as bad
sorry rrfc - got to pull you up on that 1! john barnes, owen hargreaves, tony dorigo, cyrille reagis, colin viljoen etc etc
don't think there's space big enough to include all the foreign born welsh, scots and irish intenationals over the years
not forgetting from the past eusebio, di stefano and puskas and nearly all the 1950 US side that beat England
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I really can't understand this total anti England TEAM attitude !!
it's a personal choice if y not botherd about your national side fortunes, wether english, welsh, scottish, irish.
BUT TO HAVE NO INTREST STRANGE !
so if R bennet makes the england team you won't raise an eyebrow in intrest.
AND AS FOR STUART PEARCE HE MIGHT NOT BE ALF RAMSEY BUT CAPELLO DIDN'T PERFORM ANY MIRACLES WITH OUR AVERAGE SQUAD... BUT HE'S 24 MIL BETTER OFF
I was at wembley on weds and I think we played ok The dutch are in the top 3 sides on the planet so not to dispondant
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Football never used to be as bad
sorry rrfc - got to pull you up on that 1! john barnes, owen hargreaves, tony dorigo, cyrille reagis, colin viljoen etc etc
don't think there's space big enough to include all the foreign born welsh, scots and irish intenationals over the years
not forgetting from the past eusebio, di stefano and puskas and nearly all the 1950 US side that beat England
Not to mention Irish managers!  Yes, fair enough but percentage wise nothing like as bad as the cricket. The ones you mention might not have been born here but they were truly English by adoption, never played first class footie in their country of birth and I think that's the big distinction, the ready made one. Like an athlete who has actually been in the US Olympic Trials, failed and then comes over here to be in Team GB. Puskas I forgave because he was escaping Hungarian occupation, Di Stefano may be a bit more awkward to forgive being Argentinian and I assume came to Europe for the money, Eusebio only played top football in Portugal not at home didn't he? I never got that feeling about Petersen when he's batting somehow, different to D'Oliviera for instance. |
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Sorry grim, but there is just so much wrong with this that i don't know where to start. maringer got a lot of good points in. capello a buffoon??? christ man have a look at his record and compare it to 'onest 'arry's. if i remember correctly he got us qualified for 2 major tournaments, with the best record in qualifying ever.i think you'll find that other johnny foreigner (sven) got us qualified for 3 tournaments, reaching the quarters in all 3. that, apart from venables' semi(aided by home advantage) is the best england achievement in nearly 50 years. you might think 13th out of 32 was the worst finish but i'd strongly argue that 11th in the euros in 2000 was a far far worse result. bet it was a johnny foreigner who managed us then..... oh no it was that passionate,proud english yeoman - kevin keegan. 'i dreaded the day England winning a world cup with a Swede or Italian' - REALLY? HONESTLY? what sort of patriotic englishman are you? i want england to win championships and i don't give a flying fook who's in charge. if you could guarentee me that bluddy coco the clown would lead us to vistory in the euros i'd bite your hand off. it has to be an englishman?? why? oh yeah ,coz they've got pride and passion and they understand english footballers - that worked soooo well with taylor, mclaren, hoddle and keegan didn't it? I'd argue that you select the best man for the job, no matter what his race,colour,sexuality or religion. sorry for the rant but i just find the argument that we have to have an englishman as manager as utter and total bollox. rant over. ps nothing personal!
We will have to agree to disagree on this one for me it has to be an English manager all day long, I stand by my comment "dreading us winning the world cup with a swede or Italian" or any other foreigner for that matter, not sure about coco the clown is he English?? Im more patriotic than you know and as a proud Englishman who has followed England home and away it just wouldnt feel right for me, lifting the trophy with a foreign managerno thanks, I go so far as say im really pleased they failed. We are a country with a population of around 60 million and its embarrassing that we cannot find an Englishman to manage the English team, you mention the wally with the brolly, turnip head, god squad hoddle, but these idiots where never fit for the job in my opinion, I might be wrong but im pretty sure they wasn't the fans choice which is usually the case with the pig headed F.A. they have always gone against popular opinion and gone for the yes man, yes I know this is bit of a cliche but they always seem to pick the wrong man and i think it will happen again with Redknapp. |
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We all surely agree that our support is MASSIVE....so why not bin the national side and just have GTFC representing England?
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