Tuchel for England

I don't think I'm alone in wishing that there were English coaches that were worthy of the role. Eddie Howe possibly is but wants to stay at Newcastle so we're basically left with few options.

Quoted from Manchester Mariner

Classic Daily Mail

Wouldn't wipe my a*s* with that rag..

Quoted from grimsby pete

I would rather we had an English man but who have we got ?  Very little choice.

So I hope he does a good job and wins us another world cup.

To do that he will have to get the best out of a very talented squad something our previous managers haven't been able to do.

To be fair Pete, 2 euro finals on the bounce and a World Cup semi and quarter isn’t too shabby for Southgate, he just couldn’t seal the deal. Hopefully Tuchel can.

Obviously, we’d all like for the best man for the job to be English, but he isn’t.

Some of the newspaper headlines and uproar from the ‘patriots’ have been absolutely pathetic.

Nobody will give a sh.it where he’s from if he wins something.

Quoted from Maringer

I do hope he's going to put his foot down and not just attempt to somehow cram all our talented midfielders into the team at the same time like it is the noughties.

I'd be happy to see Bellingham in a slightly advanced midfield role alongside Rice so he's not running all over the pitch like he's been controlled by an 8 year old playing FIFA. Similarly, if he's going to play Kane, get the flipping ball into the box a bit more often so he's got a chance to score some goals instead of watching the ball being pointlessly tip-tapped backwards and forwards outside the box. Either play Palmer as a winger or not at all and try and get Foden to do something now and again. Following the pathetic performance against Greece, he'll probably manage to work out that playing with a forward in the team is a good idea as well.

I'd also like him to magically discover a high level left-back for us from somewhere. Oh, and a top level goalkeeper.

How are you not working in football with this in depth tactical knowledge you have?

Quoted from jimgtfc

How are you not working in football with this in depth tactical knowledge you have?

Please feel free to disagree with anything I posted, but explain your reasoning. Just what is Bellingham's role when he plays for England? Do you think it is a good idea to play with a style or formation which doesn't get the ball to Kane in a position where he gets a chance to score? I mean, I realise Kane is past it a bit now according to many commentators (he's only scored 10 goals in 9 games for Bayern so far this season), but probably still worth playing him? Do you think that Palmer should play in a wide role as he has for most of his career? If not, why not? What about Foden? Why does he do so little for England when he does so well for Citeh?

Lots of questions. Do elaborate where you think anything I posted was wrong, and why.

Hearing via friends in fairness to Bellingham Ancelotti was asked who was Real Madrids best player ; Vincius Jr followed by Bellingham. Not a bad accolade considering Vincius is favourite for the Ballon D Or this year with Bellingham supposedly in third place.

What we have here is a golden opportunity for the Fishy to actually provide some value to the greater footballing universe and debate what needs to happen for the FA to have enough successful English coaches to choose from in the future.

I personally think allowing big name freshly retired players to take over as head coaches of premiership/championship level clubs because they are celebrities has set English managers back, and I'm always amazed that those clubs will scour the depths of random European leagues to give people a chance but are reluctant to give British coaches the same chances.  Or is the issue that more British coaches need to go to Spain, Portugal, Austria etc and prove themselves there as the stepping stone to landing a Premier league job?

Arrigo Sacchi: started coaching in his mid-20s because he wasn't a good player but loved the game. Worked his way up through youth teams and the leagues, then ended up winning a couple of European Cups and the World Cup as well, of course.

Of course, the Italian media attacked him for not having a proper playing career, which just goes to show how little most journalists know.

Quoted from OddShapedBalls

What we have here is a golden opportunity for the Fishy to actually provide some value to the greater footballing universe and debate what needs to happen for the FA to have enough successful English coaches to choose from in the future.

I personally think allowing big name freshly retired players to take over as head coaches of premiership/championship level clubs because they are celebrities has set English managers back, and I'm always amazed that those clubs will scour the depths of random European leagues to give people a chance but are reluctant to give British coaches the same chances.  Or is the issue that more British coaches need to go to Spain, Portugal, Austria etc and prove themselves there as the stepping stone to landing a Premier league job?

The FA have recently gone to a system whereby your first coaching badges are all done online. I'm not sure how you can learn to coach sat in your front room. There is absolutely a wealth of information and attitude adjustment that has a huge benefit to have covered before any coaching work begins but to put that into an online course and than brand it a 'coaching' course is very misleading and in my sceptical view is a means of trying to claim we as a nation have more qualified 'coaches' when in reality we don't.

The next thing we need to do is try and increase the pool of genuine coaches. By this I mean those that aren't parents, or rather doing it for the benefit of their kids. There is of course a place and a need for parent coaches but they obviously have a time limited agenda to their involvement, not one that harbours aspirations to go further in the game. Part of this aspect will need to see local grassroots clubs have better provision and links to local colleges to allow aspiring young coaches on sports courses access to working regularly with young teams with appropriate mentoring and supervision where necessary.

It remains for me the biggest and single most important thing for the advancement of our football at all levels is a huge mentality shift in the younger ages. This has ramifications all over but I'll need to cover one side to get the other side out. It is becoming worse and worse across grassroots football where adults (I've abandoned parents and adopted adults because there are coaches who are becoming just as bad if not worse) place such a heavy emphasis and importance on winning.

Anticipating the brigade who say "but that's the point", it is. But there's a journey involved and that journey MUST include failure and allow genuine decision making for the kids. There are far too many teams being managed to win rather than being coached. The knock on effect is that everyone else around them is almost forced to follow suit to maintain pace. Failure to maintain pace sees parents move the best kids to the best teams and those who are being well coached are falling to the bottom because managers are distorting the field.

How does that impact development of coaches? Where the grassroots scene is becoming more saturated with parent managers and the genuine aspiring coaches continually working with mixed ability players theres reduced scope to coach higher level concepts and 'tactics' because the technical level isn't sufficient. So what we have locally are talented younger coaches are propping up the lower level teams whilst more aggressive less skilled coaches are hoovering up talent and propping up the higher level.

Until that flips on it's head we're limiting both young players and coaches. I would imagine that places like London may have a better skew but certainly locally that's my experience and I've seen some good coaches have limited progression or ability to showcase their skillset.

The next part is one that is dependant on density of clubs. We have our academy and some satellite development schools with Hull. That's the extent of progression for local coaches. Again, London and Manchester have more scope for talented coaches to work with better players and expand their own talents and potentially progress into the pro game. How a coach in Grimsby can take the step up into academy football if there are no spaces at Town is most likely a difficult bridge to cross.