Tuchel for England

None of us are overly bothered by having a Yorkshireman in charge of Town - while singing 'In your Yorkshire slums' - so surely Tuchel is acceptable. I cant see any better English coaches who are more deserving so let's give him a go.

Quoted from supertown

So you think all Germans identity with each other as an ethnic group. Really ?

He quoted the literal definition of ethnicity from a dictionary (I presume). I'm not sure what more can be said.

Welcome to the England job, Tuchels.

Quoted from supertown

So you think all Germans identity with each other as an ethnic group. Really ?

Have you met any Germans?

I have just spent a week in Amsterdam working with a European group that had a lot of Germans in it and as soon as they knew I was English they started taking the p*ss out of themselves about their 'Germanness' - every stereotype you could think of.

Do Germans identify with each other as an ethnic group? Do bears use heavily wooded areas as makeshift latrines?!

Quoted from supertown

So you think all Germans identity with each other as an ethnic group. Really ?

I've literally given you the dictionary definition of what an ethnicity is. You can't just put forward your own interpretation and suggest the actual definition is wrong.

Not for me. I think the manager of our national football side should be English, in the same token that any player should be eligible by their English criteria. I'm sure that lots of posters won't agree with this and try to find some " racist" agenda. Our FA has the infrastructure to produce good managers capable of performing at the highest level. I can't imagine countries like Germany, France, Netherlands, Spain and Italy utilising non-native managers but I don't follow international football that closely these days.

Sadly the UK press and certain nationalistic fans are already sharpening their knives against the new manager...a real pity we still have a small percentage of Brits who have this historic world war attitude against  Germany. Most of the young Germans born today have no connection to the atrocities of their ancestors and agree that it was a vile regime. This is 2024 ,,,,,move on

Quoted from rancido

Not for me. I think the manager of our national football side should be English, in the same token that any player should be eligible by their English criteria. I'm sure that lots of posters won't agree with this and try to find some " racist" agenda. Our FA has the infrastructure to produce good managers capable of performing at the highest level. I can't imagine countries like Germany, France, Netherlands, Spain and Italy utilising non-native managers but I don't follow international football that closely these days.

The last English manager to win the Premier League/1st Division was Howard Wilkinson in 1991-2 and the last British manager to win it was Alex Ferguson in 2013.

Quoted from rancido

Not for me. I think the manager of our national football side should be English, in the same token that any player should be eligible by their English criteria. I'm sure that lots of posters won't agree with this and try to find some " racist" agenda. Our FA has the infrastructure to produce good managers capable of performing at the highest level. I can't imagine countries like Germany, France, Netherlands, Spain and Italy utilising non-native managers but I don't follow international football that closely these days.

Ive seen people in my life who spout out accusations of racism to others trying to get on their high horse yet their actions denote just the same level of savagery as racism in other forms notably bullying via psychological or intellectual and even physical means which has had depressing repercussions around the world amongst young and even older notably suicide in cases. Think a minority hide behind the veneer of a political group yet deep inside their mindset is dark . Ive learnt the only thing you can do with these types is punishment within reason , and education and try to help them see the good inside of them which everyone has and try to grow that.

As for a foreign manager in charge of a team I dont mind if its foreign or not so long as there the best man for the job as countries and peoples are constantly in a change of flux .

Good appointment for me. There's no doubting appointing an English manager would always be the preferred option but the sad truth is that finding English managers with a track record of winning at the highest levels is going to be some time coming yet.

Germany seem to have had a period of time in the last 20 years where they have heavily invested in their coaching infrastructure and developed some outstanding coaches with innovative ideas that has catapulted them to the highest levels of the game internationally.

I remember on one of the coaching courses I did that they said Germany, Holland and France have a significantly higher percentage of qualified coaches per populous (or whatever metric they used) than England. Our talented coaches are currently operating in the huge academy structures that exist in our elite teams and it's highly unlikely that there is a progression pathway into the top jobs. Instead, they have to move into the lower leagues where they're trying to prove themselves with players of a lesser standard and it doesn't always transpire that their talents are shown because fans want instant success and time is not a common commodity afforded managers.

Even then though, when Man City need to replace Pep, they won't be looking in the lower leagues for that upcoming English manager, it'll be someone showing promise at a top European Club or an elder statesman with a track record of success.

It doesn't mean the likes of Howe or Potter won't eventually get the job without having necessarily won anything, nor does it mean we don't have talented coaches that we could look at, but the clamour for success at international level only ever gets stronger the closer we get and logically the best appointment has to be the one that has evidence of succeeding on their CV. Proof of that is the low approval rating for Carsley despite him having had success with the U21s, but he isn't a household name with Champions League under his belt.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Guess Pep said no then

Tuchel is available, and has been heavily linked to the soon to be vacant Man Yoo job...

The FA (for once) acted quickly to get their man.

I for one am very surprised at the appointment, not least because Tuchel is everything that the FA usually go out their way to avoid;  confrontational, abrasive and far from a 'yes man'.

It could be a bumpy ride...which probably explains the 18 month deal - suck it and see until the World Cup and take it from there.