Criticisms and Worries

Criticisms:

- Thought Hatton was very poor today - and Wrexham realised he was the weak link in our squad and tried to take advantage. Noticed that Morrell had been keeping an eye on him and probably realised that he was shite defensively. It wouldn't surprise me if Morrell had decided that he'd made a mistake with the team selection up front and feigned injury so that Cieslewicz could come on and hurt Hatton with his pace. Hatton is positionally unaware and on several occasions left it up to Marshall or Disley to challenge the winger on his flank whilst he was nowhere to be seen. He can't tackle to save his life and isn't particularly great going forward. Bring back Bradley!

- Marshall is wayyyyyyyyyyy too predictable, can't say I've seen anything of him to make me want him to stay beyond his current loan. Yes he got a goal at Ebbsfleet but apart from that I think he's been off the pace, especially in the last two home games. He is reluctant to take his man on down the wing, and his crossing is hit and miss - not particularly fantastic. When he does run with the ball he tends to cut inside which usually leads to him being dispossessed. He also holds onto the ball too long, many people criticise Neilson for this but Marshall is just as guilty IMO which again usually leads to him losing the ball. Replace him, he's no better than Colbeck.

- Aswad: apart from the assist was poor, kept on losing the ball in their half which resulted in him falling to the ground, leading to a Wrexham counter. He really struggled to deal with the big man coming at him down the right (think his name was Wright). Might be a bit harsh but his body language appears half-arsed to me.


Worries:

I think the loan players were our best players tonight. I think we'll struggle to maintain our current forum if we don't manage to hold onto them; we don't look anywhere near as threatening without Hannah or Neilson. It is essential that we sign Hannah and find a player as effective as Neilson. He didn't have his best game today, but I still thought that he was our most lively/dangerous outlet.

Some very accurate statements in there IMO.

Yeah I agree with you regards Hatton and would have picked Wood myself.
But to be fair, I expected worse than what transpired and think he/we did enough to get away with those cracks.
He'll always be better going forward IMO.

Think you're right about Marshall at least for tonight .
But personally think he's shown enough ability and potential and if Neilsons gone (who I thought did excellent tonight and proved you right dav ! Can we reconsider ?...) then he's a must sign for me UNLESS we can get someone else of Neilson's quality (see below) like you say.  

Not Aswads best game for sure but for all that losing of the ball, I respect players who are willing to have a go to make something happen.
To his credit he kept going and helped get us the points with that brilliant first touch past the man and cross.
tbh I was more disappointed when he took a shot from a tight angle when men were in the box !

I share your "worries" but hopefully the opposition won't be as good as Wrexham and others can do a job. (least I hope so !)
But that said yeah, think we need to kick on and not go backwards in terms of quality. Otherwise why did we bother to start off with ?
I trust S&H know what they're doing but there's always risks that a merry go round of loan players (as opposed to permanents) might upset the balance.
Not every player who comes is guaranteed to be a success (e.g. team unity, bonding) no matter how good they are.

For me hatton is a far better player than wood and I'd pick him every time and reckon the managers are thinking this now . Is he that bad defensively ? Still don't see us letting many goals in and he gives way more quality going forward. Most right backs struggle against that's ceselwicz or whatever his name is and I didn't see him skinning hatton much last night . All he kept doing was cutting inside and having shite efforts from 25 yards .

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

For me hatton is a far better player than wood and I'd pick him every time and reckon the managers are thinking this now . Is he that bad defensively ? Still don't see us letting many goals in and he gives way more quality going forward. Most right backs struggle against that's ceselwicz or whatever his name is and I didn't see him skinning hatton much last night . All he kept doing was cutting inside and having shite efforts from 25 yards .

Yes totally agree, I actually saw Hatton make numerous good tackles and he is much better going forward and although we didn't see it with his poor free kick last night, he has a mean set piece. U think Wood is good and once again were lucky to have strength in depth, I'm just glad to see Hatton gas come in leaps and bounds and is clearly fitter than he was at start if the season, was it kiddy in fa cup? We're he was getting skinned left right and Chelsea due to being knackered after about 60 minutes. It is a tough one as wood against southport first game if season was amazing until one mistake and the games after that early on he was mom, so lets just be blessed we have 2 adequate decent players

Aswad is a vital part of a defence that has only conceded 16 goals in 24 games. Last night he basically won it for us with a great cross.  Cheer up, and remember what it was like when Tom Newey was left back.

Marshall is crap on the right wing, when Colbeck comes back and he goes left he should improve. Agree that without Neilson we are going to be half the attacking force we are. Indeed, I think unless a fantastic replacement comes along we will be in trouble.

Pond was MOM by a million miles last night and if we can't keep him I will be sad.

Sums up my feelings nicely too.

Thomas didnt have his best game but his quality and ability to cross an amazing ball came through when he set up the goal.

Hatton isn't the best but we have no issues defensively in my opinion, even if pond was to go. Yes, at times their number 7 had a clear run but I think that was more to do with marshalls defensive issues than hattons. If you look at the positive, he might have gotten past a few times but did he really hurt us?

Marshall might be predictable but so are some of the defenders in this league hence why he's done pretty good since he's been here. We were much the same as Wrexham. They saw our right hand side as a weak point and we saw theirs as one, normally neilson and Marshall swap over but last night they didn't, even when Southwell came on.

Yes there were some criticisms but once again, we looked hard to beat, tight at the back and every single player wants to win at this club and in recent times we haven't been able to say that.

Think you have to remember who we were playing. The best two teams in the league played each other last night and it wasn't going to be an easy game. They have won 6 on the spin and have not lost to a top 6 side, until now, so criticisms are unjust after that result i think. Top of the league and the best defensive record around has to mean something.

Have to admit that i am worried about losing the two best attacking threats we have at present but this is where the rest of the squad has to step up to the plate.

Hatton was superb last night IMO.

Hatton is doing fine. Just because he does not fly in with rash challenges does not mean he is not defending. He is very good at shepherding his winger away from our danger area and winning us a throw in or goal kick. He is also cleverer going forward. If we had a mixture of Hatton and Wood we would have a superb player.

Quoted from davmariner

Criticisms:

- Thought Hatton was very poor today - and Wrexham realised he was the weak link in our squad and tried to take advantage. Noticed that Morrell had been keeping an eye on him and probably realised that he was shite defensively. It wouldn't surprise me if Morrell had decided that he'd made a mistake with the team selection up front and feigned injury so that Cieslewicz could come on and hurt Hatton with his pace. Hatton is positionally unaware and on several occasions left it up to Marshall or Disley to challenge the winger on his flank whilst he was nowhere to be seen. He can't tackle to save his life and isn't particularly great going forward. Bring back Bradley!

Absolute horse shite.

Their manager feigned injury to come off and make a subsitution that was effective for all of 30 minutes? Are you on glue?

Cieslewicz is a very good player and it says a lot about the defence as a whole, but especially the two full backs, that Wrexham were limited to lumping hopeful crosses over and McKeown didn't have a save of note to make.

Just to remind some of your reviewers on last nights game that we were playing a ruddy good team and limited a free scoring team to half chances. No one was shite in my opinion including Hatton - it was a game where everybody contributed something to the cause. Niven got some stick last night but I tell you what he's my first name on the team sheet. He may let a few passes go astray but who ran 40 yards last night to break up a counter attack? The more intelligent fan will also note how he positions himself to stop passes. It was a thoroughly good team performance last night with passages of play for both teams. Don't know why we are always obsessed with finding someone who they believe was 'shite'.

I thought their wide right player kept Aswad occupied well most of game, but second half Aswad attacked more and this made a big difference.

Hatton and Marshall were ok for me, Marshall very promising early on but faded second half. Seems to lack confidence to shoot.  

Best quote on this thread; 'we were pretty much the same as wrexham'.  Yep, we cancelled each other out a bit, but they are a good side and we took the points, so can't complain.  

I know what fans are saying re Hatton defensively but i thought this was more in latter part of first half when he was skinned twice. Big plus is he keeps the ball whereas Brad often gives it straight away.  For me it was great win and that is all that matters as we strive to regain league status. That said i thought is very predictable knocking long balls to Cook and would like to see this mixed up more with full backs taking ball from the keeper. Would also agree with all comments about loan players but expect Hannah to stay nielson to go and not sure about Pond although Miller very good player. Also expect some new arrivals in jan so next three games crucial if we are to win the league but play offs looking like a certainty. Will be in with home fans on Boxing Day which is a big shame but another win wil make it worthwhile

Hatton likes to hoof it, hes abit like gary silk

Aswad Thomas poor? Poor? Poor? Can't be arsed? What on earth is the medication your on. Up and down the left flank, putting a foot in when it's needed. Then setting up the goal with a fantastic piece of skill to get past the defender and to deliver a cross which was put on a six pence. All that with your Achilles playing up. Ner sorry chief not having it. Well played Aswad tonight and well played GTFC, great game from two good sides. UTM.

Blimey. First time I've looked on here since last night and what's the first thread I see?

Criticisms and Worries!!!!

We're top of the bloody league for God sake, just enjoy the moment. I'm sure S&H will have contingency plans in place to replace Neilson.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Blimey. First time I've looked on here since last night and what's the first thread I see?

Criticisms and Worries!!!!

We're top of the bloody league for God sake, just enjoy the moment. I'm sure S&H will have contingency plans in place to replace Neilson.

I agree Les.

H&S brought in the loanees like Pond and Neilson and i think if either/both are to go then they will know who they want to replace them. They have a short list for every position.

Enjoy the fact we are top at Christmas. Judging by the predictions at the start of the season from the vast majority of posters the team have exceeded expectations

No player deserves any slagging off after giving their all against a very good and strong Wrexham side.  To slate a player when they are up against some of the best players in this league is dumbfounding.  We didn't lose, they didn't score, they also committed 11 fouls to our 5 and got away with at least another 4 to 5 fouls and some of their players should have seen at least 3 to 4 yellow cards.

Disagree with most of that, Thomas was solid though he made a few mistakes going forward it was still his moment of quality that won us the three points.

Marshall wasn't at his best, most likely due to the fact we were playing a top side in this division, not going to be up against that every week and he has more than shown he is good enough so far.

Hatton I think is better than Wood, he is still defensively solid, has a quality free kick, and Chissle is a top player for about 20 minutes then becomes average as shown last night and the reason he is always on the bench. He may have had the pace to take on Hatton a few times but I still don't remember them creating a decent goalscoring oppotunity in the first half.

As for the loanees, Pond is top quality, but Miller has shown eveytime he has come in he is just as good and no problem with Miller and Pearson being first choice if that happens. Hannah is the most important I feel, as we showed before he came in that we lack chances to score without him, however you never know if Pearson stays fit and play's regularly he might be the player that won promotion  with Burton. As for Neilson, he's hit and miss for me, top quality and skill in abundance but at the same time, I think he is too good for us and this league and that is not always a good thing. We have a great team spirit and playing well together, having individual skillfull players dosn't always help. Whilst I'd love us to get all 4 loanees in, I'm not convinced we rely on them as much as some think except prehaps Hannah and his poaching.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Blimey. First time I've looked on here since last night and what's the first thread I see?

Criticisms and Worries!!!!

We're top of the bloody league for God sake, just enjoy the moment. I'm sure S&H will have contingency plans in place to replace Neilson.

My thoughts exactly  

i can't believe there is a thread of this O_o,

top of the league
beat one of the contenders for a top 5 finish
clean sheet (how many have we had now?!!)
and i believe also a very cracking atmosphere last night helped too well done to everyone who came

let's enjoy this spectacle, we haven't had much to sing about for a while

come on town!!!!!!!!!! UTM!!!!!!!!1

We ground out a victory yes, which is fantastic and credit to the players for doing so but that doesn't mean that because we won we should automatically discount our weaknesses last night. At times we rode our luck IMO, for the last 30 mins of the first half Wrexham were in total control; a team with a striker capable of finishing would have really punished us.

I was sat in the Lower Findus towards the Pontoon side and as a poster has already said, Hatton was really poor in the first half for the reasons I stated in the OP and having overheard several conversations around me, others had noticed this weakness as well. To be honest, I don't recall him even making a successful tackle during the game but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as a previous poster claimed he had. I 100% disagree with people that say he's better than Bradley Wood - no way. Wood is defensively more solid than he is and to be honest I don't think Hatton offers that much more going forward than him.

Have to agree about Hatton, Wood for me every game.

Quoted from davmariner

We ground out a victory yes, which is fantastic and credit to the players for doing so but that doesn't mean that because we won we should automatically discount our weaknesses last night. At times we rode our luck IMO, for the last 30 mins of the first half Wrexham were in total control; a team with a striker capable of finishing would have really punished us.

I was sat in the Lower Findus towards the Pontoon side and as a poster has already said, Hatton was really poor in the first half for the reasons I stated in the OP and having overheard several conversations around me, others had noticed this weakness as well. To be honest, I don't recall him even making a successful tackle during the game but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as a previous poster claimed he had. I 100% disagree with people that say he's better than Bradley Wood - no way. Wood is defensively more solid than he is and to be honest I don't think Hatton offers that much more going forward than him.

I bet you'll be sat there on Christmas Day bemoaning the fact of all the expense of the day,  having a go that the turkey hasn't got 4 legs, and switching the lights off on the tree early to save on the leccy bill.

Enjoy the moment, we're top over Christmas and all negative thoughts should be put to one side.

At least until Boxing Day anyway.  

here is a criticism


what was it with some of your fans trying to kick off with genuine football fans after a game played in the right spirit ?

save it for boxing day with like minded people from Lincoln

Quoted from ruthinred

here is a criticism


what was it with some of your fans trying to kick off with genuine football fans after a game played in the right spirit ?

save it for boxing day with like minded people from Lincoln

And you don't have your own idiots in Wrexham, not condoning anything that may/may not have happened but it seems your just aggrieved about the result, with your moaning and sniping on here

Quoted from davmariner

We ground out a victory yes, which is fantastic and credit to the players for doing so but that doesn't mean that because we won we should automatically discount our weaknesses last night. At times we rode our luck IMO, for the last 30 mins of the first half Wrexham were in total control; a team with a striker capable of finishing would have really punished us.

I was sat in the Lower Findus towards the Pontoon side and as a poster has already said, Hatton was really poor in the first half for the reasons I stated in the OP and having overheard several conversations around me, others had noticed this weakness as well. To be honest, I don't recall him even making a successful tackle during the game but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as a previous poster claimed he had. I 100% disagree with people that say he's better than Bradley Wood - no way. Wood is defensively more solid than he is and to be honest I don't think Hatton offers that much more going forward than him.

Disagree. You can be as good at finishing as you like but if you get no clear cut chances you won't score. They didn't get many crosses in during that period in the first half and generally knocked it around 30 yards from goal without ever threatening to penetrate.

Quoted from gymadman

And you don't have your own idiots in Wrexham, not condoning anything that may/may not have happened but it seems your just aggrieved about the result, with your moaning and sniping on here

not true - you had that bit extra , and with Pond and Hannah are a better squad than us

in fact- I think you will win the league if you sign those two up and keep them fit

Quoted from ruthinred

here is a criticism


what was it with some of your fans trying to kick off with genuine football fans after a game played in the right spirit ?

save it for boxing day with like minded people from Lincoln

A very small minority I'm sure but a minority that exist sadly.

Quoted from mariner91

A very small minority I'm sure but a minority that exist sadly.

This

This  is a ridiculous thread

This is the same Sam Hatton that was the regular right-back in a side that had three promotions including their last one to Div 1 ? If so then he must be crap and not worth playing!

Quoted from chipsandgravy

. Don't know why we are always obsessed with finding someone who they believe was 'shite'.

It kind of becomes habit after 5/6 seasons of sh1te. Lol

I am also a big admirer of the role and work Niven does...largely underrated by the uneducated...without doubt my signing of the season.

Quoted from rancido

This is the same Sam Hatton that was the regular right-back in a side that had three promotions including their last one to Div 1 ? If so then he must be crap and not worth playing!

Fair enough and no-ones saying he's crap at all.
But you can only go off what your eyes are telling you right now.

He's a very good player, very creative, good at going forward and did ok last night, but tackle wise he's not the greatest and positionally he's gone missing at right back before, not just last night.
Whilst we're on the subject of his weaknesses, he's got a habit of playing hospital balls putting some players under pressure.

I'm loving the moment and it's not a case of slagging off players, it's a simply a case of spotting any little weaknesses before they come back to bite us.

For me, Wood is a better defender and Hatton's a slightly better all round player.
For a defensively stingy backline I would argue it should be a case of horses for courses depending on the opposition.

Sorry but he's great at some things and not particularly great at others - that's football !
I'm not sure what good pretending he's Ashley Cole is gonna do.

Only 2 goals conceded with Sam Hatton on the pitch this season.

Quoted from ska face

Only 2 goals conceded with Sam Hatton on the pitch this season.

Yeah, what a useless clownshoe, eh?

BRING BAK BRADLEE WUDZ!!!?!!?!!?!!!

Silly comment that reflects poorly on you.
What part of "Hatton's a slightly better all round player." did you not understand ?

Quoted from ska face

Only 2 goals conceded with Sam Hatton on the pitch this season.

Wow, is that correct? Great stat

Quoted from ska face

Only 2 LEAGUE goals conceded with Sam Hatton on the pitch this season.

I like Hatton but I think some Town fans ALWAYS need a boo boy.  

I thought he played ok last night , not a great game but a hard fought win against strong opposition . I thought Disley and Niven were quality along with Pond up to his normal high standard.the only player I was dissapointed in was Marshall who seemed to look a bit lost but has had good games so is entitled to have an off day.
We are top of the league for a reason ...the effort the lads have put in ..well done to all , enjoy Xmas at the top

For what its worth,  for various reasons i have only made a handful of games this season and last night was the first time i had seen Hatton play, i have read a lot on here about him and  as i do know that our fans  tend  to love  to make a scapegoat, i wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, considering he seemed to have a reasonable time at AFC Wimbledon, so expected him to be half decent, although  perhaps a little lacking in confidence.
I played the game at a reasonable amateur level in defence for 30 years,  so i do know a bit about the game and i have to say that judged on last nights performance i would have to rate him a poor defender, he didn't close attackers down, relied on Marshall to do that for him, doesn't  appear to have a lot of pace, or strength in the tackle and positionally wasn't great, he must be better than that  surely?-  he is probably better than Wood with the ball at his feet, but, if i picked that team,  out of the two it would be Wood everytime for me.
My opinion , others  will disagree, but i thought 80's post on this was spot on..

Well thanks Pete but it's only something to be aware of.
For me it's horses for courses depending on the opoosition and how many defensive problems they MAY pose us.
But obviously some have gone on the defensive deciding any criticism is never ever helpful and it's all about slagging off the players !  
So don't be suprised if you get thrown in the same boat...

Quoted from tashee69

I like Hatton but I think some Town fans ALWAYS need a boo boy.  

Interesting...
Let's go back over the timeline... (correct me if I'm wrong)

Oct 20th.
Hatton returns back into the side for the Kiddy FA Cup game - Town lose 4-2.
http://www.grimsby-townfc.co.u.....24&tcmuri=431541

Quoted from ska face

Only 2 goals conceded with Sam Hatton on the pitch this season.

Wow great stat !

My comment...(Just back)
http://www.thefishy.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1350751865/s-26/highlight-Hatton/#num26

Quoted from 1600

Of the players...

Hatton - defensively suspect and over-elaborate but tbf the ball he played to Niven(great goal) was CLASS.  
No doubt he's a footballer with vision but equally needs to stop any love affair with his own ability and knuckle down.

27th Oct - Bradley Wood returns to the side on October 27th, Town lose 1-0 to Macc.
28th Oct - I suggest Hatton should return to the side for Tamworth (if anyone else did pre-Woking please do say !)

Quoted from 1600

Whatever is true mate let's remember it was Hatton who set up Niven for 1st goal v Kiddy.

http://www.thefishy.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1351444412/s-0/#num4

10 Nov - with the onus on attacking and putting Woking on the back foot, Hatton now returns back into side scoring a couple.  

But just forget all that, we ALWAYS need a boo boy !  

I think in general, but not with everyone, Hatton gets a raw deal because Bradley Wood is a fans favourite.

Don't see what the fuss is about criticising him for Friday night. How many times did the Polish lad actually go past him, 1/2/3? Not many in 75 minutes.

Good defending is not clattering into someone at the same time as clearing the ball. Sometimes being in the right place at the right time is more effective.

I do like Wood so this isn't a "Hatton is far better than Wood" post. Far from it. I actually don't have a specific preference, ill just support whoever's in the side and not female dog and moan that the other guy isn't in the team.

For some balance to the debate though, and since enough people have brought up some of Hatton's negatives, ill mention a few of things that I find myself repeatedly still shouting for Wood to do/not do in games.

1) His reluctance to take a throw-in by throwing it short when someone (usually Disley) is asking for a quick "to feet and back" throw. It doesn't matter if he's got a marker behind him, he isn't going to get caught on the ball if he's giving it back to Wood first time. We do this often with Hatton IMO.

2) He still has this tendency to alter his movement towards the ball by going away from it to make sure he makes strong contact or barges into the opposition player. This still often leaves a chance for the player to dodge the barge and nick in and take the ball. Also leads to a few free kicks being conceded as he leaves his natural line of movement to bump the guy so its clear for refs to see. I'd rather him just kick the ball out of play if he needs to and then get back into position.

3) Positionally when we are in possession. When S.Pearson or McKeown have the ball it would just take Wood to drop 10 yards deeper sometimes to give himself a little time + space and to make an angle for a pass if needed. He often stands in a position on the halfway line where he's not going to be able to receive the ball. And he's sometimes slow to react and move on when we're passing the ball across the pitch from left to right and there's acres of space in front of him.

Personally I don't think any other team will have such strength in depth at right back as we do.

Quoted from 1600

Well thanks Pete but it's only something to be aware of.
For me it's horses for courses depending on the opoosition and how many defensive problems they MAY pose us.
But obviously some have gone on the defensive deciding any criticism is never ever helpful and it's all about slagging off the players !  
So don't be suprised if you get thrown in the same boat...

Interesting...
Let's go back over the timeline... (correct me if I'm wrong)

Oct 20th.
Hatton returns back into the side for the Kiddy FA Cup game - Town lose 4-2.
http://www.grimsby-townfc.co.u.....24&tcmuri=431541

Wow great stat !

My comment...(Just back)
http://www.thefishy.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1350751865/s-26/highlight-Hatton/#num26


27th Oct - Bradley Wood returns to the side on October 27th, Town lose 1-0 to Macc.
28th Oct - I suggest Hatton should return to the side for Tamworth (if anyone else did pre-Woking please do say !)

http://www.thefishy.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1351444412/s-0/#num4

10 Nov - with the onus on attacking and putting Woking on the back foot, Hatton now returns back into side scoring a couple.  

But just forget all that, we ALWAYS need a boo boy !  

Do you live on your own or with your parents?

Have you tried masterbation?

Quoted from Teesknees

Do you live on your own or with your parents?

Have you tried masterbation?

Wow great counter argument...

Quoted from Tommy

I think in general, but not with everyone, Hatton gets a raw deal because Bradley Wood is a fans favourite.

Don't see what the fuss is about criticising him for Friday night. How many times did the Polish lad actually go past him, 1/2/3? Not many in 75 minutes.

Good defending is not clattering into someone at the same time as clearing the ball. Sometimes being in the right place at the right time is more effective.

I do like Wood so this isn't a "Hatton is far better than Wood" post. Far from it. I actually don't have a specific preference, ill just support whoever's in the side and not female dog and moan that the other guy isn't in the team.

For some balance to the debate though, and since enough people have brought up some of Hatton's negatives, ill mention a few of things that I find myself repeatedly still shouting for Wood to do/not do in games.

1) His reluctance to take a throw-in by throwing it short when someone (usually Disley) is asking for a quick "to feet and back" throw. It doesn't matter if he's got a marker behind him, he isn't going to get caught on the ball if he's giving it back to Wood first time. We do this often with Hatton IMO.

2) He still has this tendency to alter his movement towards the ball by going away from it to make sure he makes strong contact or barges into the opposition player. This still often leaves a chance for the player to dodge the barge and nick in and take the ball. Also leads to a few free kicks being conceded as he leaves his natural line of movement to bump the guy so its clear for refs to see. I'd rather him just kick the ball out of play if he needs to and then get back into position.

3) Positionally when we are in possession. When S.Pearson or McKeown have the ball it would just take Wood to drop 10 yards deeper sometimes to give himself a little time + space and to make an angle for a pass if needed. He often stands in a position on the halfway line where he's not going to be able to receive the ball. And he's sometimes slow to react and move on when we're passing the ball across the pitch from left to right and there's acres of space in front of him.

Personally I don't think any other team will have such strength in depth at right back as we do.

Now that's what I call proper debate !  

Not sure I agree with everything but most I do and more importantly, it's a fair, mature and well constructed argument. (nice dig by the way tees but you'll have to do better than that !)
I might have a re-watch of the Luton game...

Not sure I understand what "ill just support whoever's in the side" means though ?
I support everyone when I'm there supporting (and if people don't they're doing a disservice and should belt up or perhaps sod off !) but still think it can sometimes help to be critical after the full time whistle has blown.
Goes back to the principle of "prevention is better than cure" (if indeed there IS any issue which is being debated).
I support the WHOLE squad and when aiming to play at FULL strength, want the best player(s) who can do the best job on the day, not just the last 11 because they played last time round.
Think it's fair to say we've seen BOTH right backs being used so far this season and both have generally been effective.
Can't speak for others but just personally for me, the criticism was not motivated by "bring Bradley Wood back" and not saying I necessarily would.
But equally I probably would have done for Wrexham and wouldn't rule it out in future but it depends on the circumstances and opposition.

I guess the backlash boils down to this "boo boy" concern and if it's a problem it needs to be addressed and stamped out.
But as far as I'm aware no-ones been booing or really getting on Hatton back ?
Just for me you've got to address separate issues separately, not just fudge team selection because there MIGHT be another problem elsewhere that might pop up.  
When the managers say "We thought we'd take him out the firing line" (which they've done more than once already !) then it's disappointing to say the least, because if it's cos of the "stick" they really shouldn't have to !  

If god forbid, fans do ever start booing Hatton (or really getting on his back) then they need to give themselves a proper slap, it'll be a disgrace and it's not the kind of thing we ever want to see regardless of the player.
I wasn't Elding's biggest fan but as a GTFC player was disgusted with the treatment he received.  
If he comes back and plays then he (like every player) deserves our full support at the matches.
But for me, like every player that shouldn't mean you can't be fair and objective and speak about his strengths and weaknesses and whether he should in the team on the messageboard...

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But just forget all that, we ALWAYS need a boo boy !  

Do you live on your own or with your parents?

Have you tried masterbation?

A little low but how do you know he types with two hands  

Also going to be ruthless and agree with the first poster, Wood over Hatton anyday for me. Without being too critical of Hatton I don't think he's as good as Brad and for me is only on the pitch because of the 2 free kicks he scored the other week. I'd definitely choose Brad for the Lincoln games.

I think they both have good quality in different areas, Hatton is a good ball player and takes a smashing set piece. Wood is a better athlete and better defensively IMO. I thought the number 7 gave Hatton a tricky time but he would have given most a hard time. Hatton could go past his winger a bit more often for me! I am not worried who plays right back and think we have good competition, personally I would go for brad but I am not unhappy with Hatton.

I don't get the criticism of Marshall, I think he is a proper positive winger, he won't beat the fullback all the time but is willing to have a go and he is a good out for us as we struggle for pace.

Wood for me as you may be aware. But at this moment in time I'm enjoying hats run in the team. And personally he's got better and better...its his to lose now! I know brad Is chomping at the bit to get in and will defiantly take his chance.

With 3 games in 7 days, dare I suggest there may be an element of tinkering in the duos plans (and depending on the opposition) anyway ?

Not saying it necessarily SHOULD happen but it's hard to imagine a packed schedule won't have any effect at all come New Years day.

I may be wrong and sure others won't agree but I see the Lincoln as the bigger game(s) (and possibly more winnable one(s) ?) than Mansfield.
So I wonder if there's case for some tinkering at Mansfield that goes further than right back.
Especially (for me) if we could bag the 3 points at Lincoln prior to the arguably important Lincoln home game on New Years day.
If we can't win at Lincoln then perhaps there may be changes anyway ?  

Just think if we could get 6 pts+ from 9 and perhaps get a few others e.g. Miller, Artus, Soares, Rankine, Southwell, Thanoj involved before another yet another "3 games in 8 days" period starting 5th Jan then I'd be more than happy !

If new players come in/back then great, just very slightly concerned the likes of e.g. Artus might be asked to come in and do a job from out of the cold later if they don't.
So just wonder if a "come and break us down and we'll hit you on the break and try to nick the win" job with slightly different personnel could be an option at Mansfield.