Boris Johnson All Town Are We !!

Quoted from golfer

What do you want - " The birth pill being substituted for the pensioners extermination pill ?"  In most countries old people are looked after by their families and even then receive larger pensions. At the moment immigrants receive a sight more benefits than pensioners in THIS country. What we need are the people WE NEED.

This is a load of nonsense isn't it? Illegal immigrants can't claim anything because, and the clue is in the name, they're an illegal immigrant. Seeking asylum is not illegal and if the Tories hadn't decimated the public services and civil service their applications would be processed far quicker. That would have a two-fold positive effect. Firstly, we wouldn't spend so long and so much money having to care for these people from desperate situations before they can start living properly and secondly we could get them working and contributing to society as well as paying tax. Unfortunately it's much easier for the government and their buddies in the right wing press to make the stupid in society hate and denigrate these people (the vast majority of whom have never and will never do anything wrong) rather than admit they've destroyed the system that was in place.

As for bemoaning the pensions in this country, you do a lot better on a pension than you do working in the public sector which has seen a real terms massive wage drop since the Tories took charge. Even now, they ensure that pensions go up in line with inflation and leave the people in work to suffer with either wage freezes or insultingly low increases that are far below inflation. They do this in order to keep the votes of all the older people who are stupid enough to keep them in power. It's laughable really, in 2020 27% of the population that were over 65 years lived in households with wealth exceeding £1million. That number had more than tripled from 10 years earlier as the boomers started retiring. So they don't all need that bump in income above inflation but they'll take it anyway and leave the nurses to have to keep using food banks. But like I said previously, they're the most selfish generation to have ever lived.

Quoted from mimma

As a matter of interest has anybody seen the details of the Rwanda deal?
We have to give them an unlimited number of visas to live here, the number of asylum seekers we send them is, wait for it,  200 a year! Yes two hundred a year.
Madness. It is cheaper to give them a house and put them on benefits.

And so far we've given the Rwandan government £240 million in exchange for precisely nothing.

These are the very people that want to stop foreign aid to "look after our own first".
You honestly couldn't make it up, it's as the monty python team are running the government

Quoted from mimma

As a matter of interest has anybody seen the details of the Rwanda deal?
We have to give them an unlimited number of visas to live here, the number of asylum seekers we send them is, wait for it,  200 a year! Yes two hundred a year.
Madness. It is cheaper to give them a house and put them on benefits.

People aren't interested in the details, just buying into the concept of 'sending them to Rwanda'. It's nothing more than a gimmick and a very expensive gimmick, so expensive that it appears that the cost has been lied about by government. People's fantasies of seeing all the immigrants, whether legal or illegal rounded up and put on flights is just hokum. Obviously the more reasonable and cost effective route would be to process their applications in a timely manner.

President Kagame will be happy for the hundreds of millions of quid we've given them for doing nothing. It will help him with his next re-election campaign as he only 'won' 98.8% of the vote last time around.

I'll be Braverman is just disappointed that she couldn't get Kim Jong Un to answer the phone. You can almost imagine this bunch of shysters arguing that North Korea is a 'safe country' to ship out migrants to...

Quoted from mariner91

....... It's laughable really, in 2020 27% of the population that were over 65 years lived in households with wealth exceeding £1million. That number had more than tripled from 10 years earlier as the boomers started retiring. So they don't all need that bump in income above inflation but they'll take it anyway and leave the nurses to have to keep using food banks. But like I said previously, they're the most selfish generation to have ever lived.

What a load of bollo'x.   How many households in Grimsby exceed £1million you cantankerous bigot

Quoted from golfer

What a load of bollo'x.   How many households in Grimsby exceed £1million you cantankerous bigot

But how many over 65 households in Richmond, Twickenham and Wimbledon? Most of that wealth is passed on tax free, all of it with careful tax planning. But if you need social care in Lincolnshire forget about it unless you pay through the nose for it from modest household wealth. You can’t even get district nurse visits as an 88 year old after coming out of hospital now. I speak from family experience. Many people in the 50s are doing the job of social care because an ageing parent can’t pay. The Tories go on about reducing immigration and increasing workforce productivity growth and workforce participation instead when they have overseen the dismantling access to primary care and social care.

NHS is absolutely on its knees as well as social care. I'm currently waiting for a telephone consultation with a specialist - my last one (telephone consultation as well) was almost 4 months ago, when I had almost no symptoms. I had an MRI and other tests over two months ago since when, things have got progressively worse. NHS website says, 'You should see a specialist within 2 weeks of being referred'. I waited 4 weeks for the first phone call, 6 weeks for the tests and now another 9 weeks until the second consultation! I despised these flipping Tories on behalf of other people who were suffering so much under them and I can tell you, being on the other end of things doesn't make me like them any more.

Absolute vermin.

"Stop the Boats" is this years "Get Brexit Done" and they are hanging their hat on that slogan, hoping the same xenophobic, racist simpletons fall for it and vote the fookers back in again.

Only this time it won't work, because enough people have finally cottoned on to the fact that after 13 years in power, the Tories have just about destroyed anything of any value and picked over the bones until there is nothing left for them to pocket.

Sunak is a pathetic busted flush, voted in by a tiny minority of the Tory Party faithful. As bad as Boris was, at least he fought and won an election. Lied like fook to achieve it mind.

Get your heads out of your ar$es people. Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants. They don't get phones, cars, houses, or even money to spend. They get stuck in terrible accommodation and are given food vouchers. They are mostly desperate people looking for the milk of human kindness and they get the fooking Tories. The most heartless, gutless bunch you could imagine, and a surprising amount of them are second generation immigrants themselves.

I feel ashamed for my country at the way this government conducts itself.

He's shamed the nation.

The tories are in total chaos and are desperately trying to stoke the fears and anger of people who don't know any better.

They don't want to talk about the cost of living and the NHS. Anyone who votes Tory at the next election is flipping brain dead.

I had rang an ambulance for a 15 year old girl recently, she'd dislocated her knee and it was facing the wrong way. She was screaming in pain. They couldn't send an ambulance as it wasn't life threatening. We had get her down 3 floors,  wheel her down the road in a borrowed wheelchair and into a black taxi. She was screaming in pain all the way.  
That is the reality of Tory Britain.