Italy v England / England v Germany

England’s elite players just aren’t very good . This is shown whenever they play anyone decent. The cream of the worlds players who are in the top PL teams basically carry our lads and when it comes to playing together they can’t look very ordinary. Doesn’t help having a boring manager who doesn’t seem the most charismatic.

Quoted from male private Nale

Is anyone else sick to death of seeing these bloody women commentating on top flight football for no other reason than they aren’t men?

Fair play they like football and that’s great but I want ex top flight player insight not a tick box exercise.

Let’s see if I can put this in a way that avoids any accusations of being a racist sexist.  What’s happened in most of the civilised world but with emphasis in the UK is a reaction to years of exclusion.  There is probably a case to argue that commentary and analysis has declined because of a focus in ensuring that everything conforms with political correctness.

What we’re seeing at the moment is sub-standard because the TV networks are more focused on over compensation rather than who is the best person for the job.  Where I object to your post is that you’ve generalised and it therefore seems that you harbour a sexist viewpoint.  Lose that element and criticise instead on a performance basis and I could probably agree in some instances.

You didn’t mention race so don’t think that I’m making any sort of accusation.  In my opinion, Micah Richards and Clinton Morrison are two of the very best commentators/pundits.  Not too many years ago they wouldn’t have been given the opportunity which was completely wrong.

Southgate is the most boring stubborn manager around his teams dont start playing until 1-0 down , we will get to the 1/4 finals no probs then first time we play a half decent team we're on the plane home

Quoted from fishcake63

Southgate is the most boring stubborn manager around his teams dont start playing until 1-0 down , we will get to the 1/4 finals no probs then first time we play a half decent team we're on the plane home

what you should consider is that the same old duffers club that (allegedly) run the game are the ones who appointed him.  I’d be amazed if he had any objectives apart from qualification and avoiding controversy.

I think Southgate’s influence goes beyond the actual England team. He’s working in an organisation that is so far removed from its own game it’s untrue, full of old men with power who again, know very little.

We’ll get to the quarters/semi’s again and probably go out to some ropey goal. That’s football and I guess that’s why it’s actuslly difficult to predict etc.

I forgot we were even playing last night and apparently now you get relegated? What made up flipping nonsense is this. Does anyone acruslly care about international results unless it’s a qualifier or a tournament?

We are shite. Can't be bothered to read the comments on this site and don't agree with any of the 54 already posted.

England playing?…..........there's some paint drying in the living room so I'll give the match a miss.
Got to say though , looking at how Graham potter has got Brighton playing before he left, I'd put him in charge, Southgate too boring and negative, players look lost with no game plan.
Harry Maguire finally exposed for the cart house he truly is.
Southgate spends more time on "inclusion training" and making sure the rainbow armbands are fitted properly.
Let's forget about all this p.c. woke wet wipe bollox and get back to proper football.

Quoted from FPVmariner

Let’s see if I can put this in a way that avoids any accusations of being a racist sexist.  What’s happened in most of the civilised world but with emphasis in the UK is a reaction to years of exclusion.  There is probably a case to argue that commentary and analysis has declined because of a focus in ensuring that everything conforms with political correctness.

What we’re seeing at the moment is sub-standard because the TV networks are more focused on over compensation rather than who is the best person for the job.  Where I object to your post is that you’ve generalised and it therefore seems that you harbour a sexist viewpoint.  Lose that element and criticise instead on a performance basis and I could probably agree in some instances.

You didn’t mention race so don’t think that I’m making any sort of accusation.  In my opinion, Micah Richards and Clinton Morrison are two of the very best commentators/pundits.  Not too many years ago they wouldn’t have been given the opportunity which was completely wrong.

Nicely done.
Personally... a humorous , knowledgeable and precise opinion is what I want from my pundits. I really don't care how that is "packaged".

If however,  at half time/post match ,  I am only going to subjected to nothing more than over scrutinising endless VAR angles with "experts" telling me what I can already plainly see for myself .....then i would rather take the most attractive package to deliver that message.

England managers, sucking the life out of players on repeat

Just watched the game this morning was busy Friday , anyway it was crap have a good day  fishies