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Add a lack of understanding of the psephological issues that permeate Scottish politics to your skewed view on other matters.
It is clear from every election since 2015 that the party that suffered most from the rise of the SNP was Scottish Labour. If you believe that the good voters of Rutherglen etc. would move their allegience to a right wing party simply to achieve independence then you are bonkers. The SNP have domestic policies that resonate with the voters around health, education and equality amongst others. Christ the campaign to Remain alone suggests left wing leanings.
Scottish Labour under at least the last three leaders followed a path not much further left than the Scottish Tories.
The SNP may well have left leaning policies based on health, education and equality but the reality is very different! A bit like the so called progressives that live a very middle class life in Scotland whilst professing their socialist credentials to all and sundry, with a copy of the Scottish Sun under their arms (Scotland’s biggest selling newspaper). |
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You clearly have no understanding of what you’re talking about.
You must think Blairs New Labour was left wing 😂 |
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The SNP may well have left leaning policies based on health, education and equality but the reality is very different!
A bit like the so called progressives that live a very middle class life in Scotland whilst professing their socialist credentials to all and sundry, with a copy of the Scottish Sun under their arms (Scotland’s biggest selling newspaper).
I am not sure you are right there. Ian Blackford, for example, is a humble crofter in the Scottish Highlands. Well, that is apart from his earnings from being an ex-investment banker, his 80 odd thousand pounds a year salary and his 200, 000 plus pounds a year expenses, and the fortune he got from selling his shares in a telecommunications company, he lives the life of a humble time served socialist.  Obviously, I don't mind how well he does, but the hypocrisy is a bit much. |
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I am not sure you are right there. Ian Blackford, for example, is a humble crofter in the Scottish Highlands. Well, that is apart from his earnings from being an ex-investment banker, his 80 odd thousand pounds a year salary and his 200, 000 plus pounds a year expenses, and the fortune he got from selling his shares in a telecommunications company, he lives the life of a humble time served socialist. Obviously, I don't mind how well he does, but the hypocrisy is a bit much.
I don't think you understand what socialism is. You can be successful, earn a good salary and still be a socialist. If anything, more kudos to you for it because if you're socialist and earning a lot you're happy for yourself to be taxed more. |
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I don't think you understand what socialism is. You can be successful, earn a good salary and still be a socialist. If anything, more kudos to you for it because if you're socialist and earning a lot you're happy for yourself to be taxed more.
Oh right, I didn't know that. I thought socialism was all for making a more equitable society and sharing the riches out. I suppose Blackfords is a sort of socialism if we can all have 200,000 plus pounds expense accounts and become millionaires on the sale of shares. I suppose like you say he can comfort himself at night with the thought that his extra taxes can help provide some comfort for those not quite so lucky. |
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Oh right, I didn't know that.
I thought socialism was all for making a more equitable society and sharing the riches out. I suppose Blackfords is a sort of socialism if we can all have 200,000 plus pounds expense accounts and become millionaires on the sale of shares.
I suppose like you say he can comfort himself at night with the thought that his extra taxes can help provide some comfort for those not quite so lucky.
Are you saying he has got to be a Tory because he has done well in life or that he should just stop caring about those less fortunate? We all have to work within the system we have and make the most of our opportunities, it doesn’t mean we agree that system is the best possible available You seem to have an itational jealousy of those who have a bit of money but still care for those less fortunate |
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I notice Blackford an his chums are top the expenses list 6 of them making the top 10 and they only have 47 seats! Also Interesting to see those greedy Tory MP’s making up the majority of lowest claiming MP’s. https://www.mpsexpenses.info/#!/all |
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I notice Blackford an his chums are top the expenses list 6 of them making the top 10 and they only have 47 seats! Also Interesting to see those greedy Tory MP’s making up the majority of lowest claiming MP’s. https://www.mpsexpenses.info/#!/all
I'm no fan of the SNP but I wonder if it could be anything to do with the fact that some Scottish constituencies are over 600 miles from Westminster so travel to and from London is way more expensive and there is little option for travelling home after work meaning accommodation expenses are higher? Add to that the costs of setting up offices in more than one location due to constituency travel restrictions. You really should look beyond the headline figure before making yourself look ridiculous on here. Fair play to Rees-Mogg for making no claims though. |
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Are you saying he has got to be a Tory because he has done well in life or that he should just stop caring about those less fortunate? We all have to work within the system we have and make the most of our opportunities, it doesn’t mean we agree that system is the best possible available
You seem to have an itational jealousy of those who have a bit of money but still care for those less fortunate
It just shows the general misunderstanding of what socialism means. There would have been no Labour party without the intellectual middle class support in its formative years. I can't speak for Lew but many people forget that Tony Benn (with impeccable Socialist credentials) had to renounce his hereditary peerage to be able to stand up for those much less fortunate than him in the House of Commons. |
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