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How many players do we realistically need to play his way and even if we did what guarantee is there that it would work? From that interview, it would seem his aim is purely to play a certain way and the business of accruing points is secondary. Quite often in the past, we've had managers try systems out but they normally fall back to something that works with the players they have in the squad. I just can't see that happening with him.
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Its such a shame as i really thought we would do something under IH, but its just not working. We’re a backwards club doing everything on the cheap and if Ollie thinks that makes us well run then he’s more delusional than i thought. Just stuck in a never ending cycle of shite
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| diehardmariner |
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Despite the anger that's escalated since yesterday, I didn't think we were that bad. I don't mean to the levels that Holloway talks about but our performance was ok.
We were beat by a penalty and a deflected free-kick. We rattled their crossbar through Windsor and Gibson missed a sitter early on. On another day it could have gone another way.
We're toothless and we look shaky at the back. But for quite large periods I thought we knocked it about nicely without any real penetration. It's an ultimate lack of quality though, until we address that we'll always struggle. We can't keep clean sheets and we're not good enough in attack. Absolute recipe for disaster.
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I've had the night to reflect, and to me, it's obvious why IH said we played well.
He has a month before he can sign anyone, in that time we have 6/7 HUGE games with teams in and around us.
If he come out and said we are rubbish, it would only make a bad position even worse.
I honestly believe he expected the season to stop again, and due to the contract's we offered, we struggled to get the players that are actually good enough, and that he actually wanted to sign...
Offer a young non-league 2/3x more the wages they already earn, and a chance to play league football... they was always going to be the type of players that wanted to sign, despite the clause
Having said that, IH has to take sole responsibility for the players we have actually signed, as 90% are clearly not good enough
I also think he was planning for a season with Hanson up front, and that's also not gone to plan
He now has a huge month and half, to steady the ship, and then rapidly sort this mess out, otherwise its game over for the club
The squad is fuc*ing huge, and needs to be cut pretty quickly
Be brutal, get rid of some of the young lads that we've never seen
Sisay
Jackson Jr - Who is becoming one of them players that gets better without playing to many of our fans...
Spokes
The loans have been terrible
Gomis
Bennett
Taylor
Morton
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Green
Hanson
Holloway can't go anywhere, as getting someone new in won't work.
Holloway is 100% still the right man for the job, but probably faces his biggest challenge for a very long time..
I thought this - desperately trying to maintain confidence for the next 6 games or so that could potentially end his career in league management. |
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| December 9, 2020, 11:46am |
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I was desperately hoping that the next few games might just produce a few wins, get us out of the danger zone and most importantly see a little confidence coming into the squad.
Now I am concerned that, with the apparent total lack of strikers due to fairly long term injury and Holloway not wanting to play Jackson & co, nothing is going to change and it really wouldn't surprise me if we get beat at Southend, they must see us as the one team they are likely to beat this season.
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| December 9, 2020, 12:00pm |
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I think it's easy to get dramatic but we played well in patches against Exeter and Colchester and well at Crawley the game before that. I think even with what we have now we are capable of winning 3 of the next 5 or 6 and pulling away from the bottom two. I am not convinced we need a dozen new players either. If we can move a few out and get a couple fit we probably need immediately:
A centre back a bit more comfortable on the ball
A left back to support Preston who looked good initially but appears shot now
A more athletic presence in centre mid
A central striker with some experience of scoring goals
I'm not suggesting that would mean a play off charge but enough to see us in lower mid table and then with Green and Hanson off the wage bill start yet another rebuild next Summer.
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| Jarmo.Is.God |
| December 9, 2020, 12:03pm |
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Would you really trust IH with another transfer window after the last one..
Yes, 100% Vaccine is approved. This to me, means things will only get better. I honestly, hand on heart, think we still have the best manager in the league, and he will sort this out |
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| sam gy |
| December 9, 2020, 12:18pm |
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A centre back a bit more comfortable on the ball
A more athletic presence in centre mid
A central striker with some experience of scoring goals
Like Harry Davis, Jake Hessenthaler and Charles Vernam? It was a shocking decision to just let all of our out of contract players leave. |
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| December 9, 2020, 12:21pm |
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Yes, 100%
Vaccine is approved. This to me, means things will only get better.
I honestly, hand on heart, think we still have the best manager in the league, and he will sort this out
I'm not convinced that's true. I wasn't in favour of Holloway becoming the manager, because I don't think managers from a higher level know enough about the lower levels of the game to recruit hungry players. It works out much better to bring in a successful manager from levels below who know the best players at that level and will want to sign for a bigger club. However, last season I was pleasantly impressed with his recruitment and what he did with the team, we looked much better. I do think he made huge mistakes this season in going for quantity to rotate rather than a smaller side with more quality. But I also think he's been hamstrung by Jolley's mistakes too. With Hanson, Green, McKeown, Ohman, Waterfall and Hendrie all on good money for this level, the covid situation will have reduced the available budget so that we had to live with some underperforming players that we can't afford to replace. I certainly think Holloway knows he's made big mistakes and will not make the same mistakes in January. We could do with 9-10 points out of the next 6 games, then I think we'll be in a better place both mentally and points wise going into January and Holloway deserves the opportunity to do that. The problem then becomes that we wouldn't be able to replace him if the next 6 games are a disaster in time for a new manager to have a window, but I still think we're on track for what we all agreed was the target for this season, however painful it is living that reality right now. |
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| lew chaterleys lover |
| December 9, 2020, 12:36pm |
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I'm not convinced that's true. I wasn't in favour of Holloway becoming the manager, because I don't think managers from a higher level know enough about the lower levels of the game to recruit hungry players. It works out much better to bring in a successful manager from levels below who know the best players at that level and will want to sign for a bigger club.
However, last season I was pleasantly impressed with his recruitment and what he did with the team, we looked much better. I do think he made huge mistakes this season in going for quantity to rotate rather than a smaller side with more quality. But I also think he's been hamstrung by Jolley's mistakes too. With Hanson, Green, McKeown, Ohman, Waterfall and Hendrie all on good money for this level, the covid situation will have reduced the available budget so that we had to live with some underperforming players that we can't afford to replace.
I certainly think Holloway knows he's made big mistakes and will not make the same mistakes in January. We could do with 9-10 points out of the next 6 games, then I think we'll be in a better place both mentally and points wise going into January and Holloway deserves the opportunity to do that. The problem then becomes that we wouldn't be able to replace him if the next 6 games are a disaster in time for a new manager to have a window, but I still think we're on track for what we all agreed was the target for this season, however painful it is living that reality right now.
I remember laughing out loud when Fenty once said, we have tried everything - past managers, new managers, established managers, hungry managers and managers from lower down the tiers and none of them work. He seemed completely unaware that the only constant in all those scenarios was himself and the way the club is run. Holloway is still our best hope, and like you say he has to put right the mistakes made in the summer. |
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