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Dan
August 29, 2018, 5:07pm

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Here's Ipswich docks as it was:
[IMG]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/D841/production/_89816355_imtimagearchivebuildings.w.quay1902.jpg[/IMG]
And here it is now
[IMG]https://www.thesuffolkcoast.co.uk/shares/20Mar17125606-TTDA_-_Ipswich_Town_and_Waterfront_-_View_of_Marina.jpg[/IMG]

There's no reason why something like this couldn't have been done in Grimsby. It just should have been done when new labour was throwing urban regeneration money around and all we got was the riverhead complex.


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Don't wish to poo poo the comparison out of hand, but Ipswich is close enough to the south east (on the doorstep, in fact), that redevelopment there will come in part from the ever-expanding commuter belt around London. Not the case here.

Not wanting to make a political argument here, but the N.E. Lincs Council won't be in a position to invest money, regardless of which party is running it. The block grants from central government have been slashed over the past 8 years so its a struggle for them to keep the basic services running, let alone consider anything about redeveloping the town. Local government isn't allowed to borrow money to invest in infrastructure/facilities - we're practically the only country in Europe where this is the case. That's not to say that they couldn't take a more positive approach to schemes such as the Peaks Parkway one or A.N. Other. Just don't expect them to spend much money on it.
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Don't wish to poo poo the comparison out of hand, but Ipswich is close enough to the south east (on the doorstep, in fact), that redevelopment there will come in part from the ever-expanding commuter belt around London. Not the case here.

Not wanting to make a political argument here, but the N.E. Lincs Council won't be in a position to invest money, regardless of which party is running it. The block grants from central government have been slashed over the past 8 years so its a struggle for them to keep the basic services running, let alone consider anything about redeveloping the town. Local government isn't allowed to borrow money to invest in infrastructure/facilities - we're practically the only country in Europe where this is the case. That's not to say that they couldn't take a more positive approach to schemes such as the Peaks Parkway one or A.N. Other. Just don't expect them to spend much money on it.


Hartlepool a good comparison and example?

http://hartlepool-marina.com/latest-news/test/

https://www.destinationhartlepool.com/see-and-do/attraction/hartlepool-marina.html
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It's hard to get funding I guess and even harder when you're in our location.It seems just like benefits ,whoever shouts loudest wins. Liverpool on the West has had money poured at it by the millions and following "City of culture" Hull has had similar this side so I imagine we will be fighting for scraps and to convert Freemo /docks would take a fair few millions .
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It's hard to get funding I guess and even harder when you're in our location.It seems just like benefits ,whoever shouts loudest wins. Liverpool on the West has had money poured at it by the millions and following "City of culture" Hull has had similar this side so I imagine we will be fighting for scraps and to convert Freemo /docks would take a fair few millions .



That’s...not how it works.
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Maybe we could send Theresa May a personal Email as she seems to have billions at her disposal to fritter away.


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Very simple I know but look at any Town/city that gets a university seems to have an upsurge in investment, from educational buildings to local housing improvements for student accommodation.
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Hartlepool a good comparison and example?



Hartlepool is within the commuter belt of Tyneside and Wearside. A good deal more money flowing around there than N.E. Lincs.
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Very simple I know but look at any Town/city that gets a university seems to have an upsurge in investment, from educational buildings to local housing improvements for student accommodation.


The university con is coming to an end. These City’s that live of the kuni kids are in for a shock. give it a few years and the student claims against the these university will make the PPI scandel look like minuscule.


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Maybe we could send Theresa May a personal Email as she seems to have billions at her disposal to fritter away.


Well, a government in control of and borrowing in its own currency has as much money to spend as it wants to create. Nobody ever asks how we're going to pay for the aircraft carriers or cruise missiles, do they? Tick a box on a spreadsheet and pay for it.

Not wanting to derail this thread, but if the forecasts for severe economic impacts of Brexit are correct, it may take serious government investment in all areas of the economy to bring us out of a crash so that is one way in which money from central government might potentially become available.

In fact, it might be that local government is allowed to borrow to invest in infrastructure as part of this so that might be one way in which a new stadium could end up being funded.
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